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Old October 16th 04, 11:17 PM
Roy Lewallen
 
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Few people appreciate the vast difference between making something that
sort of works, once, and a design that can be produced by the thousands
with nearly every one working, fully meeting specifications, and being
reliable under a wide range of operating conditions. Those of us who
have made a living by developing quality products such as test equipment
have a full appreciation for this, and go about the design process in a
very different manner than a person accustomed to making a one-off
circuit for home use.

Many, or most, of the books oriented toward amateurs are written by
people who haven't developed the background or discipline to produce
reliable, repeatable circuits. Magazine articles are even more in this
category. Some circuits found in handbooks have perhaps never been
actually built or tested by the author, even in a quantity of one.
That's not a condemnation -- after all, this is amateur radio, most
offerings are free, and the designs are adequate for a lot of users.
Hopefully -- although I'm afraid a bit wishfully -- some builders at
least have enough technical know-how to take care of minor design flaws.
Nonetheless, it's really a treat when we're given a circuit or an
explanation by a truly professional engineer whose approach to circuit
design is one of making reliable, repeatable circuits. The chances of a
copy of the circuit working the first time, as predicted and claimed,
are much higher than for a design built once with little understanding
of how it works or what its limitations and weak points are. And the
deeper the designer's understanding of the fundamental principles
involved, the greater the chance that he's accounted for and designed
around potential problems in repeatability and operating environment.

That's one of the reasons I like and heartily recommend Wes' books and
other writings. I've known him as a friend and as an engineering
colleague for 30 years now. He's one of the very best, and we're lucky
to have access to a fraction of what he's learned.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

J M Noeding wrote:

well, said! But isn't this the very frequent feeling one gets from
reading amateur radio magazines? The constructors (I wouldn't use the
word "designer") should have constructed and tested at least 10 equal
constructions, or have similar experience before publishing an idea,
which may later turn out that might not be repeatable

Too often constructions are published when it is a hope rather than
experience that it is a good idea. For somebody it is more important
to use wellknown devices than trying to propose something else

73, Jan-Martin

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J. M. Noeding, LA8AK, N-4623 Kristiansand
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Old October 16th 04, 10:31 PM
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 13:36:59 -0700, Roy Lewallen
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Thanks for the clarification, Roy. I'm sure your kind offer won't be
necessary, though, as it now sounds like pretty much the kind of
source I'm looking for. The companion diskette is included, but I
doubt there will be anything on it that Reg hasn't already covered in
his amazing collection of programs for radio and ariel design.

p.
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"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.
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Old October 15th 04, 10:36 PM
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"Paul Burridge" wrote in message
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Many time here we've heard plaudits for "Experimental Methods in RF
Design" and no one to my recollection has derided it. But Hayward also
wrote "Introduction to Radio Frequency Design" which never seems to
get a mention. Does anyone have a copy of this other book and/or an
opinion on it? I've been offered a copy and would value the Panel's
view on it.


It's great; definitely get a hold of a copy if you're interested in radio
design.

"Introduction to Radio Frequency Design" is somewhat unique in that the
level it's written at is sort of inbetween the "cookbook" approach and the
"highly theoretical, filled with math" approach. It's aimed at individuals
who have something of a formal background in engineering but who (1) don't
want to get bogged down in the math just to get some results and (2)
appreciate having the references to the hard core material so they can
investigate further if need be. This is unlike, say, Joe Carr who seems to
want to target a similar audience, but usually his 'reference' list is
non-existant or pretty generic; Wes will direct you right back to Zverev,
Matthei, Rhea, etc. if you're so inclined. (And whereas someone who only
reads Zverev is probably a LONG way from actually being able to build
anything outside of a SPICE simulator.)

Check out Wes's web page he http://users.easystreet.com/w7zoi/books.html
.... for information on all of his books. His books are also still quite
reasonably priced. (It's not out of line, but I'm still surprised that in
ten years the ARRL handbook has gone from $25 to $55... essentially from 'a
real bargin' to 'about the usual price' for such books.)

---Joel Kolstad


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Old October 16th 04, 04:43 AM
Tim Wescott
 
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Paul Burridge wrote:

Hi guys,

Many time here we've heard plaudits for "Experimental Methods in RF
Design" and no one to my recollection has derided it. But Hayward also
wrote "Introduction to Radio Frequency Design" which never seems to
get a mention. Does anyone have a copy of this other book and/or an
opinion on it? I've been offered a copy and would value the Panel's
view on it.

p.


Buy it, it's worth it.

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Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com
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Old October 21st 04, 12:38 PM
Paul Burridge
 
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:43:13 -0700, Tim Wescott
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Buy it, it's worth it.


I just have and it is. Especially since I got a brand new copy for
just over 5 quid! ($30 cover price)
Next target: "Experimental Methods...."
:-)

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