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On Sun, 08 May 2005 14:23:22 -0400, Mike Coslo
wrote: Wes Stewart wrote: On Sun, 08 May 2005 18:39:36 +1000, atec wrote: Perhaps it is because Roy is, like your's truly, getting a bit tired of seeing "John Smith's" conversations with himself. I don't use any software filters on my newsreader but I've sure engaged a mental filter. You might want to check out the idea of filtering. Cleans up the newsgroups right fine. I use Free Agent. It doesn't do filtering, but as I said, I turn on my mental filter that says, "When you see a post by 'John Smith'", ignore it. I used the same filter for "Fractenna." Works fine. |
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Yes, I use my filter too--and support and expect others to use them as they
see fit... I certainly do mine!!! I can help if some are having difficulty; I support filtering and have an understanding how to apply them... However, the very vocal ones--I am always left wondering if they really are remarking about filtering their own content--or their wish to filter the content of others (and, for what purpose would they do this?)... if that goes on too far (controlling others), yanno, it leads to attempted thought control--a guy wrote a book about that--George Orwell... Was that in 1984, or was that about 1984? .. anyway, if you ask me--he was more a prophet, some have already grown to accept what he (we?) feared... Warmest regards, John -- When Viagra fails to work--you are DOOMED!!! "Wes Stewart" wrote in message ... | On Sun, 08 May 2005 14:23:22 -0400, Mike Coslo | wrote: | | Wes Stewart wrote: | On Sun, 08 May 2005 18:39:36 +1000, atec wrote: | | Perhaps it is because Roy is, like your's truly, getting a bit tired | of seeing "John Smith's" conversations with himself. I don't use any | software filters on my newsreader but I've sure engaged a mental | filter. | | You might want to check out the idea of filtering. Cleans up the | newsgroups right fine. | | I use Free Agent. It doesn't do filtering, but as I said, I turn on my | mental filter that says, "When you see a post by 'John Smith'", ignore | it. I used the same filter for "Fractenna." Works fine. | | |
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John Smith wrote:
However, the very vocal ones--I am always left wondering if they really are remarking about filtering their own content--or their wish to filter the content of others (and, for what purpose would they do this?)... if that goes on too far (controlling others), yanno, it leads to attempted thought control- I don't know you "Mr. Smith" or have any bone to pick with you but I use filters to avoid what I find as either offensive or provocative. I invoke enough cat-fights of my own on Usenet and don't need to be drawn into others. Some posters have a tendency to attract fire, and I have a weakness to jump in sometimes. I'd really rather just avoid it. My sanity and blood-pressure will be the better. So, thats why I filter out the provocateurs if I feel that strongly. My filters don't prevent anyone from saying what they want to say. But historically, some posters can be counted upon to say what I'd rather not have to read and wind up being diverted from the topic or grappling to bite my tongue, etc. Its easier just to filter them away. Call me Ostrich-Man. Its my means of finding satisfaction with Usenet. For my part, feel free to choose to speak. And respect my freedom to choose whether or not to listen. -Bill M |
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Ohhh, well, you are correct. I am rather blind to "politics" and come from
areas where new thought, conversation--indeed, even argument and debate are encouraged and viewed as "good things." While not attempting to invoke "havoc", "discord" and "chaos", I view the manner in which topics are handled as being the deciding factor--foul language, character assassinations and promoting outwardly dangerous evils which threaten the moral fabric of society are as disgusting to me as the next guy... If the material is just gauged on whether it provokes debate, argument and thought--and if the measure of this is simply how many posts are invoked as responses--with the desirable number set as one or NONE--then further delays in progress should be expected... A silent discussion is beneficial to no one... and certainly don't view such as desirable! Warmest regards, John -- When Viagra fails to work--you are DOOMED!!! "-exray-" wrote in message ... | John Smith wrote: | | | However, the very vocal ones--I am always left wondering if they really are | remarking about filtering their own content--or their wish to filter the | content of others (and, for what purpose would they do this?)... if that | goes on too far (controlling others), yanno, it leads to attempted thought | control- | | I don't know you "Mr. Smith" or have any bone to pick with you but I use | filters to avoid what I find as either offensive or provocative. | I invoke enough cat-fights of my own on Usenet and don't need to be | drawn into others. Some posters have a tendency to attract fire, and I | have a weakness to jump in sometimes. I'd really rather just avoid it. | My sanity and blood-pressure will be the better. So, thats why I | filter out the provocateurs if I feel that strongly. | | My filters don't prevent anyone from saying what they want to say. But | historically, some posters can be counted upon to say what I'd rather | not have to read and wind up being diverted from the topic or grappling | to bite my tongue, etc. Its easier just to filter them away. Call me | Ostrich-Man. Its my means of finding satisfaction with Usenet. | | For my part, feel free to choose to speak. And respect my freedom to | choose whether or not to listen. | | -Bill M |
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John Smith wrote:
Ohhh, well, you are correct. Of course I am. I simply expressed an opinion of mine While not attempting to invoke "havoc", "discord" and "chaos", I view the manner in which topics are handled as being the deciding factor--foul language, character assassinations and promoting outwardly dangerous evils which threaten the moral fabric of society are as disgusting to me as the next guy... And you are also correct on this aspect. If the material is just gauged on whether it provokes debate, argument and thought--and if the measure of this is simply how many posts are invoked as responses--with the desirable number set as one or NONE--then further delays in progress should be expected... I don't think anybody filters because of this. If the presenter of such debate has a reputation as in your first example...all bets are off. That is for me to imply that mud-slinging, name-calling, goading or any wild-eyed radical or raffish behaviour, in spite of the best intentions of the poster, will cause his occasional good points to be overwhelmed by the cacophony of kill-filters at work. -Bill |
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Bill:
Sounds like we have equal values, or close enough. I joke a lot, but do have a serious side... I have been out of line and called upon it--and if my actions are of questionable nature--that can be put forward... I do all of this as a hobby... a guy wants to have a bit of fun... I make mistakes--too frequently... But, I realize I have opinions not shared by all, and the opposite is true... if you can't say what you think/see/feel then what good is life in America... Thanks for your input, never hurts for a guy to examine what he is about... I will keep your comments in mind... they are well taken here... Warmest regards, John -- When Viagra fails to work--you are DOOMED!!! "-exray-" wrote in message ... | John Smith wrote: | | Ohhh, well, you are correct. | | Of course I am. I simply expressed an opinion of mine | | While not attempting to invoke "havoc", "discord" and "chaos", I view the | manner in which topics are handled as being the deciding factor--foul | language, character assassinations and promoting outwardly dangerous evils | which threaten the moral fabric of society are as disgusting to me as the | next guy... | | And you are also correct on this aspect. | | | If the material is just gauged on whether it provokes debate, argument and | thought--and if the measure of this is simply how many posts are invoked as | responses--with the desirable number set as one or NONE--then further delays | in progress should be expected... | | I don't think anybody filters because of this. If the presenter of such | debate has a reputation as in your first example...all bets are off. | That is for me to imply that mud-slinging, name-calling, goading or any | wild-eyed radical or raffish behaviour, in spite of the best intentions | of the poster, will cause his occasional good points to be overwhelmed | by the cacophony of kill-filters at work. | | -Bill |
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Well, fwiw you aren't kill-filed at my end. I'm not opposed to a bit of
push and shove on the internet. That comes about as naturally as having a cup of joe with guys at a radio meet and enjoying some horsing around. If I took the internet community toilet seriously I might wind up like this. http://publications.mediapost.com/in... art_aid=29415 -Bill |
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Speaking of "Fractenna", I have place a letter from him on eBay - -
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MESE%3AIT&rd=1 He's been carrying on in QRZ forums since AOL dropped usenet groups. Same old Chip. |
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Mr. Ewald, if you would be so kind as to keep me informed of the value of
this famous letter. I also have several that I can only hope will bring in enough need funds to enable me to buy a new pack of Redman! "Bill" wrote in message oups.com... Speaking of "Fractenna", I have place a letter from him on eBay - - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MESE%3AIT&rd=1 He's been carrying on in QRZ forums since AOL dropped usenet groups. Same old Chip. |
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The ideal station accesory...
How do I get one? And does this mean r.r.a.antenna is nutcase-free? On Sat, 21 May 2005 19:46:37 -0400, "Fred W4JLE" wrote: Mr. Ewald, if you would be so kind as to keep me informed of the value of this famous letter. I also have several that I can only hope will bring in enough need funds to enable me to buy a new pack of Redman! "Bill" wrote in message roups.com... Speaking of "Fractenna", I have place a letter from him on eBay - - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MESE%3AIT&rd=1 He's been carrying on in QRZ forums since AOL dropped usenet groups. Same old Chip. |
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