"John Smith" wrote in message
...
gb:

Well, we certainly need to examine the "bottle neck" and remove it...
before
we are doomed...

If we can't institute this "radical" idea here, we need to look at Canada,
Mexico, So. America, China, India, etc...

JS -

"... before we are all doomed". The only way doom happens is if you don't
do your part in averting that projection. Or are you saying the future is
hopeless?

So, what are you doing to be part of the "solution" rather than being the
"profit of bad things to come?"

How many hours over the past year have you worked with middle or high
schools students volunteering your time? Donating materials, time or money
for educational programs targeted for the audience that will make a
difference?

As George S. Kaufman wrote about money and knowledge in the 1930s - "You
Can't Take it with You".

gb

gb:

Now, here you have a key. The youthful number in any group define its'
likely-hood of survival... it will be "they" who free us from
strangle-holds and limits now imposed...

It will be the vast numbers of youth who end up defining the real future...
without youth--we are all DOOMED (Viagra won't even help!!! grin)

Me? I would like to think, "I am just a guy." In a generic sense, a "John
Smith" of society...

Long time ago I was a boy scout leader, still teach an evening CS course at
a Jr. college (but, have been at odds with admin., my department head, I
think the kids like me (most important--and they are ok...), most women
ditch other instructors/professors to take my course(s)--I like the idea of
them in the field)... many "older" students in my class... this year it is
Java (yuck)...

.... work digital encryption/decryption methods/implementations here, just to
keep out of the unemployment line...

....my first computer was a mainframe, my first desktop an apple--I
recognized a "better idea" (IBM) when it came along... trust me, I am a
"geeky type"...

I set up a network in my garage so I could keep up with youth and remember
mine, but now I have little to offer them, they keep the net and it has
inspired some into the field...

Everyone is aware of my fondness of radio, and I do make known what is
available here--but placed besides IM and internet communications--radio is
a pale color to the net...

I am best at surfing the net, email and newsgroups for "entertainment/hobby
pursuits"... I tinker, now and then with antennas...

.... sorry to bore you... I really am as interesting as a rock!

Warmest regards,
John
--
When Viagra fails to work--you are DOOMED!!!

"gb" wrote in message
...
| "John Smith" wrote in message
| ...
| gb:
|
| Well, we certainly need to examine the "bottle neck" and remove it...
| before
| we are doomed...
|
| If we can't institute this "radical" idea here, we need to look at
Canada,
| Mexico, So. America, China, India, etc...
|
| JS -
|
| "... before we are all doomed". The only way doom happens is if you don't
| do your part in averting that projection. Or are you saying the future is
| hopeless?
|
| So, what are you doing to be part of the "solution" rather than being the
| "profit of bad things to come?"
|
| How many hours over the past year have you worked with middle or high
| schools students volunteering your time? Donating materials, time or
money
| for educational programs targeted for the audience that will make a
| difference?
|
| As George S. Kaufman wrote about money and knowledge in the 1930s - "You
| Can't Take it with You".
|
| gb
|
|

gb wrote:

How many hours over the past year have you worked with middle or high
schools students volunteering your time? Donating materials, time or money
for educational programs targeted for the audience that will make a
difference?


I was a volunteer advisor for the Lake county Florida Vo-Tec
electronics program, till it was shut down. Right now I am trying to
find the money to finish repairs to my four car garage and convert it
into a 1200 sq ft electronics shop to teach basic electronics to the
kids who are still interested. Its not easy when you're 100% disabled
and living on a tiny pension, but I don't give up too easy.

--
Former professional electron wrangler.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

gb:

Nobel pursuit... in my case, I am more self-centered, I like the company
and people around...

Warmest regards,
John
--
When Viagra fails to work--you are DOOMED!!!

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
| gb wrote:
|
| How many hours over the past year have you worked with middle or high
| schools students volunteering your time? Donating materials, time or
money
| for educational programs targeted for the audience that will make a
| difference?
|
|
| I was a volunteer advisor for the Lake county Florida Vo-Tec
| electronics program, till it was shut down. Right now I am trying to
| find the money to finish repairs to my four car garage and convert it
| into a 1200 sq ft electronics shop to teach basic electronics to the
| kids who are still interested. Its not easy when you're 100% disabled
| and living on a tiny pension, but I don't give up too easy.
|
| --
| Former professional electron wrangler.
|
| Michael A. Terrell
| Central Florida

Michael A. Terrell wrote:


I was a volunteer advisor for the Lake county Florida Vo-Tec
electronics program, till it was shut down. Right now I am trying to
find the money to finish repairs to my four car garage and convert it
into a 1200 sq ft electronics shop to teach basic electronics to the
kids who are still interested. Its not easy when you're 100% disabled
and living on a tiny pension, but I don't give up too easy.

Good luck with finding money for your garage. Sorry about Vo-tech
shutting down and your your disability and tiny pension.
Was there anything positive you wanted to say?

-Bill

-exray- wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:


I was a volunteer advisor for the Lake county Florida Vo-Tec
electronics program, till it was shut down. Right now I am trying to
find the money to finish repairs to my four car garage and convert it
into a 1200 sq ft electronics shop to teach basic electronics to the
kids who are still interested. Its not easy when you're 100% disabled
and living on a tiny pension, but I don't give up too easy.

Good luck with finding money for your garage. Sorry about Vo-tech
shutting down and your your disability and tiny pension.
Was there anything positive you wanted to say?

-Bill

In case you missed it, I was saying that I don't let these things get
me down. I find something to keep me busy. I could be like a lot of
people I've met recently who throw up their hands and give up on
everything, but I'm not like that.

The diabilty stops me from climbing ladders or carrying anything
heavy so I bought a large cart to move things around the shop and house.

The small pension makes me consider what I want to spend money on
rather than just write a check while knowing that I had a wad of money
in the bank to cover it, so it didn't matter.

Life goes on, if you let it. :-)

--
Former professional electron wrangler.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Michael,

If you don't mind my asking, what sort of professional electron wrangling did
you do prior to becoming disabled?

Good luck on converting your garage... I think there's a good chance you can
get a decent amount of equipment and supplies donated once it's clear (to the
outside world) that you're serious about what you're doing.

----Joel

Joel Kolstad wrote:

Michael,

If you don't mind my asking, what sort of professional electron wrangling did
you do prior to becoming disabled?

Good luck on converting your garage... I think there's a good chance you can
get a decent amount of equipment and supplies donated once it's clear (to the
outside world) that you're serious about what you're doing.

----Joel

I worked for L-3com/Microdyne at their Ocala plant as a production
and engineering tech. I also worked with purchasing to find and qualify
replacement sources for components, and the nasty job of removing long
time vendors from our approved list. I worked in every area of the
product line, built test fixtures, wrote test procedures and fought the
apathy of a couple older engineers to fix old design problems. I knew
more about our oldest products than anyone in engineering, so when a
problem cropped up they came running to my bench to ask questions rather
than take the time to research the old records. The last product I
worked on was their RCB-2000, a dual DSP based telemetry receiver, to
take it from the engineering prototypes to the production floor. I was
laid off when my health no longer let me work overtime, even though I
did more in an eight hour shift than any two other people on the line.
Suddenly, I was deemed "Not a team player" because I could barely walk
out the door after my shift. I was troubleshooting and testing the
signal processing boards under a stereo microscope and I did most of my
own rework rather than wait for it to go through the rework department.
I hand soldered 288 pin SMD chips under the microscope. After the
cleaning room was done, QC couldn't find my work on the PC boards. This
radio was introduced to the market at about $80,000. One of the VME
based boards in it cost about $8,000 to stuff, reflow and test. I miss
the work, but I doubt that I'll be able to do that kind of work again,
and the high tech companies have pretty well left this part of the
country.


--
Former professional electron wrangler.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Well, whatever you did before, great!!

Now what are you doing? Finding out why nothing else can be done? Perhaps
this is why you are no longer working there...

Regards,
John
--
When Viagra fails to work--you are DOOMED!!!

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
| Joel Kolstad wrote:
|
| Michael,
|
| If you don't mind my asking, what sort of professional electron
wrangling did
| you do prior to becoming disabled?
|
| Good luck on converting your garage... I think there's a good chance you
can
| get a decent amount of equipment and supplies donated once it's clear
(to the
| outside world) that you're serious about what you're doing.
|
| ----Joel
|
| I worked for L-3com/Microdyne at their Ocala plant as a production
| and engineering tech. I also worked with purchasing to find and qualify
| replacement sources for components, and the nasty job of removing long
| time vendors from our approved list. I worked in every area of the
| product line, built test fixtures, wrote test procedures and fought the
| apathy of a couple older engineers to fix old design problems. I knew
| more about our oldest products than anyone in engineering, so when a
| problem cropped up they came running to my bench to ask questions rather
| than take the time to research the old records. The last product I
| worked on was their RCB-2000, a dual DSP based telemetry receiver, to
| take it from the engineering prototypes to the production floor. I was
| laid off when my health no longer let me work overtime, even though I
| did more in an eight hour shift than any two other people on the line.
| Suddenly, I was deemed "Not a team player" because I could barely walk
| out the door after my shift. I was troubleshooting and testing the
| signal processing boards under a stereo microscope and I did most of my
| own rework rather than wait for it to go through the rework department.
| I hand soldered 288 pin SMD chips under the microscope. After the
| cleaning room was done, QC couldn't find my work on the PC boards. This
| radio was introduced to the market at about $80,000. One of the VME
| based boards in it cost about $8,000 to stuff, reflow and test. I miss
| the work, but I doubt that I'll be able to do that kind of work again,
| and the high tech companies have pretty well left this part of the
| country.
|
|
| --
| Former professional electron wrangler.
|
| Michael A. Terrell
| Central Florida

Thanks Michael, that's a very colorful career you've had.

I was
laid off when my health no longer let me work overtime, even though I
did more in an eight hour shift than any two other people on the line.

If you still had some supervisors "on your side" who were willing to go to bat
for you, you might have had very good prospects with a lawsuit based on the
ADA? I'm sorry to hear your company ended up being run by folks who couldn't
see the forest for the trees (or even the broad side of a barn for their
sitting in the outhouse); it's an unfortunate trend in many companies
(especially as they become larger), and I tend to agree with people who
suggest it's often due to technical companies being run by business school
majors (without any engineering experience whatsoever).

---Joel