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The problem with making comparisons is that the power you can get out of
most types of primary (non-rechargeable) cells depends heavily on a lot of factors, such as: -- Current drain -- Duty cycle -- Temperature -- End voltage In addition, some devices such as many GPS receivers have switching regulators, which drain the battery at a near constant power rate. Others drain at a nearly constant current rate, and still others with more like a resistive load. Each type of cell behaves differently under each condition. Only a few rules of thumb can be put forth: 1. For heavy drain applications such as photoflash or an HT, alkalines last many times longer than "heavy duty" carbon-zinc types, so the latter is seldom an economical choice for those applications. Likewise for applications with moderate but constant drain such as a GPS receiver. Carbon-zinc is probably more economical (unless you use alkalines from Costco or other discount store) for light-drain, intermittent use such as a radio. Flashlights aren't light drain, but do fairly well with carbon-zinc if used only occasionally. But I don't use carbon-zinc for anything. 2. You're unlikely to see cell life increase anywhere near in proportion to cost by using "titanium" or other "premium" alkaline cells -- their special characteristics are mostly created in the marketing department. If in doubt, consult the manufacturer's data sheet, readily available on the web. 3. Modern NiMH cells have about the same capacity as alkaline cells -- more at very high currents --, and the capacity is quite constant over a wide range of discharge conditions. A down side is the high self-discharge rate -- they're not a good choice for something like a flashlight that's used only occasionally. 4. I've never found a good use for the rechargeable alkalines. Their capacity drops with each recharge and with increased current. At higher currents, the capacity decrease is even faster. NiMH or primary alkaline has been a better choice every time I've done a careful comparison. 5. The 1.5 volt primary lithium cells have more capacity than either alkaline or NiMH, especially better than alkaline at high currents. They're very light weight, have a long shelf life, and are excellent at low temperatures. But they cost like the dickens. I keep a couple of them in my emergency kit when backpacking or cross-country skiing as a backup for GPS or flashlight, but don't use them regularly. I've tested a good number of various alkaline AA cells at constant current loads of around 200 mA, and found only minor and inconsistent capacity differences among brands and types. Consequently, I usually use the ones I buy at Costco for about 25 cents each. If you have a particular application in mind, check the data sheet for the performance under the conditions you anticipate. Then you pays your money and makes your choice. Roy Lewallen, W7EL wrote: Has anyone investigated the quality/life/efficiency/MostBangForTheBuck/ whatever of ordinary AA (or other) cells? I recently saw the following in a local sto (I determined COST as the price for the most-economical blister-pack divided by the number of cells in that pack.) $ COST EACH MANUFACTURER BRAND NAME OTHER CLAIM ------ ------------ ---------- ------------------------------ 0.4435 Duracell CopperTop 0.4435 Energizer Max 0.81 Energizer Titanium 0.2875 Rayovac Alkaline Same Performance, Better Price 0.235 Rayovac Heavy Duty 0.36 (StoreBrand) Ever Alive 2.105 Energizer Lithium 2.4575 Energizer Rechargable 2.2425 Rayovac Rechargable |
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"Roy Lewallen" bravely wrote to "All" (03 Nov 05 16:08:56)
--- on the heady topic of " Battery quality/life/efficiency/MostBangForTheBuck/whatever" RL From: Roy Lewallen RL Antenna Software Xref: core-easynews rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:88706 RL The problem with making comparisons is that the power you can get out RL of most types of primary (non-rechargeable) cells depends heavily on a RL lot of factors, such as: RL -- Current drain RL -- Duty cycle RL -- Temperature RL -- End voltage There is another factor I've discovered for a cell's usage in audio applications such as a battery powered portable mixer or especially an electret microphone. Alkaline cells seem to be plagued with pops and ticks while carbon cells are dead quiet in comparison. Since most electret mics have very simple electronics with no voltage regulation, the battery must be extremely quiet. Unfortunately I don't have the numbers on hand to document my experience but this is just to comment that sometimes there are other factors (noise) which may make a cell type more desirable for very specific applications. For example electric guitar players are sticklers for the type of square 9 volt batteries that go into their vintage pedals. A*s*i*m*o*v .... May you find the light and walk the mountain tops. |
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Roy Lewallen wrote: | Only a few rules of thumb can be put forth: | | 1. For heavy drain applications such as photoflash or an HT, alkalines | last many times longer than "heavy duty" carbon-zinc types, so the | latter is seldom an economical choice for those applications. Likewise | for applications with moderate but constant drain such as a GPS | receiver. Carbon-zinc is probably more economical (unless you use | alkalines from Costco or other discount store) .... well, if you're looking for the most bang-for-your-buck, you SHOULD be getting the non name brand alkalines ![]() Personally, I've not found carbon-zinc batteries to be more economical, unless you're not actually using them. | But I don't use carbon-zinc for anything. Me neither. | 3. Modern NiMH cells have about the same capacity as alkaline cells In my experience, the alkaline cells have higher capacities, about twice as high. | more at very high currents -- and the capacity is quite constant | over a wide range of discharge conditions. And this is very true. The alkalines suffer greatly if you discharge at a high rate, where the NiMH cells do just fine. | A down side is the high self-discharge rate -- they're not a good | choice for something like a flashlight that's used only | occasionally. Yup. NiCd cells are better, but still nowhere near as good as alkaline or lithium cells with regard to self discharge rates. -- Doug McLaren, `Ever heard of .cshrc? That's a city in Bosnia. Right?' -- Discussion in comp.os.linux.misc on the intuitiveness of commands |
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