Phil Kane wrote in
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On Wed, 7 May 2008 18:37:43 EDT, Bill Powell wrote:

Public notice posted yesterday - proposal to use 430-448 MHz for
remotely-controlled surveillance robot:

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...-08-1077A1.pdf

Sigh...

Pikers! Why didn't they apply for 20 kW and REALLY cause
interference?? g It almost sounds like they are using something
"off the shelf" that is being used elsewhere where the ham band ends
at 430 MHz. I've seen this stuff before.

My gut feeling is that with the present "leadership" at the FCC
(despite the fact that several good friends are in the Homeland
Security and Public Safety Bureau and wouldn't support it but for
pressure from above) it will be granted on a secondary priority behind
all the other secondary priority users. I hope that I am wrong and it
is denied.

Another reason to support the ARRL Spectrum Defense Fund.
--

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon

e-mail: k2asp [at] arrl [dot] net



There isn't anywhere that has an upper edge at 430, Phil. There are
countries that only have the middle third of the ham band (430-440) or
lesser portions of that part, but none that have only 420-430. However,
there are many where hams are secondary users.

73 de Alun, N3KIP, G8VUK

PS: Can't stand modded groups to save my life, but the old one has nothing
left in it except obscene ramblings

"Bill Powell" wrote ...
Public notice posted yesterday - proposal to use 430-448 MHz for
remotely-controlled surveillance robot:

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...-08-1077A1.pdf

Won't they have a bunch of bandwidth next february
when all the analog TV broadcasting goes dark? Then
they could choose a band that is even better at "building
penetration", etc.

On May 8, 7:33 am, "Richard Crowley" wrote:
"Bill Powell" wrote ...

Public notice posted yesterday - proposal to use 430-448 MHz for
remotely-controlled surveillance robot:

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...-08-1077A1.pdf

Won't they have a bunch of bandwidth next february
when all the analog TV broadcasting goes dark? Then
they could choose a band that is even better at "building
penetration", etc.

I thought that they where going to auction all that new found spectrum
to the likes of Google and Sprint to be used for nationwide data/voice
services. I don't recall if they where going to slice out any for
other service types but here's hoping they do. Seems like a small
slice dedicated to this kind of thing might be useful.

I can imagine that with all the hoopla between the primary spectrum
user on 440 and the ham repeaters in the east and west that this might
not fly with the FCC. Can you imagine the possible interference this
might cause with the Air Force?

-= bob =-
KC4UAI

440 is a shared band already, and this device strikes me as an ideal candidate
for sharing. It would have at worst a sporadic impact on our use, at low power,
and would be a direct contributor to public safety while reducing risk of life
and limb to our firefighters and police. This is one ARRL should support.

73, de Hans, K0HB
Just a boy and his radio

In article ,
KØHB wrote:
440 is a shared band already, and this device strikes me as an ideal candidate
for sharing. It would have at worst a sporadic impact on our use, at
low power,
and would be a direct contributor to public safety while reducing risk of life
and limb to our firefighters and police. This is one ARRL should support.

There is no technical reason that the frequencies should come from the
middle of an already populated amateur band, and I disagree strongly
with your assessment that it would have "at worst a sporadic impact". A
few repeaters over a wide geographic area should have ZERO impact on a
well-designed classified military radar system (designed and built AFTER
the repeaters were on the air), but we all know that wasn't true.

This manufacturer has been using non-certified equipment hoping that
his squatting in the amateur bands will be forgiven by getting a large
number of technically ignorant police departments to cry that they'll
be saving lives -- but not cry why they ought to be using spectrum that
is already used.

Read the waiver. The claim that this will be strictly for emergency use
is disproven by the statements from police departments who want to use
this for warrant service and air-duct inspections.

On Sun, 18 May 2008 23:06:34 EDT, "KØHB"
wrote:

440 is a shared band already, and this device strikes me as an ideal can
didate
for sharing. It would have at worst a sporadic impact on our use, at lo
w power,
and would be a direct contributor to public safety while reducing risk o
f life
and limb to our firefighters and police. This is one ARRL should suppor
t.