Arf! Arf! wrote:
"Dave Heil" wrote in message
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Roger Wiseman AB8MQ, posing as " wrote:

wrote:


K4YZ wrote:


wrote:


On 4 Sep 2006 21:44:53 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote:


wrote:


K4YZ wrote:


wrote:

Robesin is a war hero.

Who's "Robesin"...?!?!

Good question. Nobody knows the real robesin. So many different
faces...

You mean like you, Brian "The Brain" P Burke, N0IMD?

You keep presuming to tell us all about how people should act,
speak to each other, and generally conduct ourselves in public
forums..

"What it's like to lick my excrement off of another man's
genitals" your words steve

Yep...

If you reread Robesin's original posting, it implies that Robesin has
been sodomized. And I thought he just had a bad experience during
potty training. It must go much deeper than that, no pun intended .


Yet he isn't the one who is around those teenage boy scouts like you
are, fag boy.


You're just a hopeless romantic, Rog.

Dave K8MN


May I respond? You are correct, Dave. Roger is hopeless. But a romantic?

You haven't noticed his tender side? Roger expresses his sexual
feelings quite eloquently. In fact, I understand that he is absent
today because he is attending a poetry reading. He reserves most
Saturdays for a sensitivity session. Roger has even offered to run some
errands for a local ham who is wheelchair-bound.

Yessir, we're seeing a new Roger Wiseman--suave, erudite, urbane.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Roger volunteering at church, putting in
some hours participating in the activities of the local Rotary Club,
becoming active in the affairs of the Marshall County ARES group or
donating his time to Meals On Wheels.

Dave K8MN

wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: Brian P. Burke molests those boy scouts

why do you choose to emulate robeson tactic and Wismens?

He LIKES to do that, Mark. He LOVES insulting those he
deems are "inferior" to him. :-(

Tsk, all those years in the State Department (paid for by the
US taxpayer) and he picked up NOTHING on diplomacy.

Davie is a PARTICIPANT in insulting anyone who doesn't love,
cherish, and honor morsemanship.

Makes one wonder who (or what) Davie molests...

wrote:
wrote:

Dave Heil wrote: Brian P. Burke molests those boy scouts

why do you choose to emulate robeson tactic and Wismens?


He LIKES to do that, Mark. He LOVES insulting those he
deems are "inferior" to him. :-(

Wowsers, Len! You've just described your own tactics here. :-) :-)

Tsk, all those years in the State Department (paid for by the
US taxpayer) and he picked up NOTHING on diplomacy.

The only way any government agency gets employees is to pay them, Len.
I've explained diplomacy to you twice in recent weeks. Here it is for
the third time: Sometimes there is the carrot and the stick. Sometimes
there is just the carrot. Sometimes there is just the stick. Write it
down somewhere.

Davie is a PARTICIPANT in insulting anyone who doesn't love,
cherish, and honor morsemanship.

I've encountered many who don't love, cherish and honor Morse Code.
I've insulted only a very few of them. You are one of the few. Enjoy
being special.

Makes one wonder who (or what) Davie molests...

Does it? You're starting to write like Roger Wiseman.



Dave

From: Dave Heil on Sun, Sep 10 2006 3:20 pm

wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: Brian P. Burke molests those boy scouts

why do you choose to emulate robeson tactic and Wismens?

To Mark: Note the obfuscation technique of Heil here,
he completely avoids the issue of Robesin's baseless
charge that Brian Burke "molests his boy scouts." That
way he doesn't 'have' to answer anything and plays the
poor wounded morseman extra 'insulted' by others! :-)

The only way any government agency gets employees is to pay them, Len.
I've explained diplomacy to you twice in recent weeks. Here it is for
the third time: Sometimes there is the carrot and the stick. Sometimes
there is just the carrot. Sometimes there is just the stick. Write it
down somewhere.

Wallace, take your carrot and stick it...or we will sic
Grommit on you.

Webster's New World Compact School and Office Dictionary
has two meanings for DIPLOMACY; "(1) The conducting of
relations between nations; (2) Tact."

Your attempt at definition is a FAILURE...but that may
explain why the USA is not doing well in foreign relations
in the last couple of decades or so. Obviously you were
not among those actually practicing diplomacy.


Davie is a PARTICIPANT in insulting anyone who doesn't love,
cherish, and honor morsemanship.

I've encountered many who don't love, cherish and honor Morse Code.
I've insulted only a very few of them. You are one of the few. Enjoy
being special.

(1) You DO admit insulting those of us who do not love,
cherish, honor and obey morsemanship! Epiphany?

(2) There are MANY in here who are not fans of
morsemanship. We are all "special?" Must be,
you've insulted all of us.

Makes one wonder who (or what) Davie molests...

Does it? You're starting to write like Roger Wiseman.

Tsk, poor Davie cannot put down this latest enemy?

You might try unsticking that carrot of yours and talk
about the subject of the thread. Now WHY is it you
condone the postings of filthy falsehoods by this
other morseman extra we call 'Robesin?'

Don't try more misdirection or obfuscation. Answer
directly. Why do you condone Robesin?

From: on Mon, Sep 11 2006 1:05 am


On 10 Sep 2006 20:34:12 -0700, "
From: Dave Heil on Sun, Sep 10 2006 3:20 pm
wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: Brian P. Burke molests those boy scouts

why do you choose to emulate robeson tactic and Wismens?

To Mark: Note the obfuscation technique of Heil here,
he completely avoids the issue of Robesin's baseless
charge that Brian Burke "molests his boy scouts." That
way he doesn't 'have' to answer anything and plays the
poor wounded morseman extra 'insulted' by others! :-)

yep it is the MMM SoP

Translation for others: Mighty Macho Morsemen Standard
Operating Procedure = 'MMM SOP.'

When pressed for anything resembling a valid reply, and
not getting one, the HOMOPHOBIA card is played. Anyone
not liking/loving morsemanship is alleged to be "queer."
Brian is a no-code-test advocate and is also involved
in Scouting, ergo "Brian molests boy scouts" charge by
the homophobic morse zealots.

The only way any government agency gets employees is to pay them, Len.
I've explained diplomacy to you twice in recent weeks. Here it is for
the third time: Sometimes there is the carrot and the stick. Sometimes
there is just the carrot. Sometimes there is just the stick. Write it
down somewhere.

Wallace, take your carrot and stick it...or we will sic
Grommit on you.

Webster's New World Compact School and Office Dictionary
has two meanings for DIPLOMACY; "(1) The conducting of
relations between nations; (2) Tact."

Your attempt at definition is a FAILURE...but that may
explain why the USA is not doing well in foreign relations
in the last couple of decades or so. Obviously you were
not among those actually practicing diplomacy.

No reply from Heil. :-)

He may be still searching for "Wallace and Grommit." :-)


Davie is a PARTICIPANT in insulting anyone who doesn't love,
cherish, and honor morsemanship.

I've encountered many who don't love, cherish and honor Morse Code.
I've insulted only a very few of them. You are one of the few. Enjoy
being special.

(1) You DO admit insulting those of us who do not love,
cherish, honor and obey morsemanship! Epiphany?

(2) There are MANY in here who are not fans of
morsemanship. We are all "special?" Must be,
you've insulted all of us.

Makes one wonder who (or what) Davie molests...

Does it? You're starting to write like Roger Wiseman.

Tsk, poor Davie cannot put down this latest enemy?

You might try unsticking that carrot of yours and talk
about the subject of the thread. Now WHY is it you
condone the postings of filthy falsehoods by this
other morseman extra we call 'Robesin?'

Don't try more misdirection or obfuscation. Answer
directly. Why do you condone Robesin?

because he wants to say the same things but mostly can't bring himself
to?

Heil LIKES to put down (personally) those who do not agree
with him. But, he does not want the "image" of Robesin
to corrupt him. Rather, he corrupts himself in his own
way.

Robesin is a morseman. Heil is a morseman. The MMM all
stick together.

wrote:
From: on Mon, Sep 11 2006 1:05 am



On 10 Sep 2006 20:34:12 -0700, "

From: Dave Heil on Sun, Sep 10 2006 3:20 pm

wrote:

wrote:

Dave Heil wrote: Brian P. Burke molests those boy scouts


why do you choose to emulate robeson tactic and Wismens?

To Mark: Note the obfuscation technique of Heil here,
he completely avoids the issue of Robesin's baseless
charge that Brian Burke "molests his boy scouts." That
way he doesn't 'have' to answer anything and plays the
poor wounded morseman extra 'insulted' by others! :-)

yep it is the MMM SoP


Translation for others: Mighty Macho Morsemen Standard
Operating Procedure = 'MMM SOP.'

When pressed for anything resembling a valid reply, and
not getting one, the HOMOPHOBIA card is played. Anyone
not liking/loving morsemanship is alleged to be "queer."
Brian is a no-code-test advocate and is also involved
in Scouting, ergo "Brian molests boy scouts" charge by
the homophobic morse zealots.


The only way any government agency gets employees is to pay them, Len.
I've explained diplomacy to you twice in recent weeks. Here it is for
the third time: Sometimes there is the carrot and the stick. Sometimes
there is just the carrot. Sometimes there is just the stick. Write it
down somewhere.

Wallace, take your carrot and stick it...or we will sic
Grommit on you.

Webster's New World Compact School and Office Dictionary
has two meanings for DIPLOMACY; "(1) The conducting of
relations between nations; (2) Tact."

Your attempt at definition is a FAILURE...but that may
explain why the USA is not doing well in foreign relations
in the last couple of decades or so. Obviously you were
not among those actually practicing diplomacy.


No reply from Heil. :-)

I've replied previously. Perhaps you missed the replies or maybe you
didn't understand them. There's "carrot and stick", "carrot" and
"stick". I don't understand your vision of U.S. Foreign Policy. It was
worked very well in the past couple of decades. We don't have foreign
relations with non-governments. The Soviet Union is gone. Milosovich
is gone. Saddam is gone. The Taliban regime is gone. The Baltic
republics are free. Poland is free. Hungary is free. Czechoslovakia
(now as the Czech Republic and Slovakia) is free. Romania is free.
Albania is free. Eastern Germany is free and has been united with the
rest of Germany. Shall I go on?

He may be still searching for "Wallace and Grommit." :-)

Are you reading up on carrots and sticks?


Don't try more misdirection or obfuscation. Answer
directly. Why do you condone Robesin?

because he wants to say the same things but mostly can't bring himself
to?


Heil LIKES to put down (personally) those who do not agree
with him.

Allow me to query you on whether you LIKE to put down those who do not
agree with you or if you feel badly about doing do. What feelings go
through your being when using terms like "Mother Superior", "Sister Nun
of the Above", "Robesin", "Herr Robust", "Dudly", "Mama Dee", "little
feldwebel" and the like? Perhaps you are simply unable to help
yourself. Are you like the mother crab, advising her offspring not to
walk sideways?

But, he does not want the "image" of Robesin
to corrupt him. Rather, he corrupts himself in his own
way.

Tell us if you feel that you've been corrupted, Len. Is there anything
in your behavior which you find to be less than admirable?

Robesin is a morseman. Heil is a morseman. The MMM all
stick together.

Do you, Brian and Mark stick together for any particular reason? Is it
because the three of you find common ground in your abhorrence of
anything to do with morse code or is it that water seeks its own level?


Dave

From: Dave Heil on Mon, Sep 11 2006 1:39 pm

wrote:
From: on Mon, Sep 11 2006 1:05 am
On 10 Sep 2006 20:34:12 -0700, "
From: Dave Heil on Sun, Sep 10 2006 3:20 pm
wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: Brian P. Burke molests those boy scouts

why do you choose to emulate robeson tactic and Wismens?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Question of the day that Heil cannot answer


Webster's New World Compact School and Office Dictionary
has two meanings for DIPLOMACY; "(1) The conducting of
relations between nations; (2) Tact."

Your attempt at definition is a FAILURE...but that may
explain why the USA is not doing well in foreign relations
in the last couple of decades or so. Obviously you were
not among those actually practicing diplomacy.

No reply from Heil. :-)

I've replied previously.

No. Your "reply" in regards to 'diplomacy' was a joke.

You have FAILED to reply on the big question on why you
condone filthy falsehoods written by Steven James Robeson,
K4YZ, about Brian Burke and his involvement with Scouting.

... There's "carrot and stick", "carrot" and "stick".

That statement is a JOKE, not a definition.

...rest of Germany. Shall I go on?

Nice attempt at misdirection but that, too, is a failure.
Explain the outright invasion of Iraq that has now cost
the USA as many lives as perished in the World Trade
Center attack on 11 Sep 01 (about 3,100 each place).

He may be still searching for "Wallace and Grommit." :-)

Are you reading up on carrots and sticks?

No, if I wanted to do that I would get a Gardening book.

Obviously you did not see "The Curse of the Were-Rabbit."
:-)

Perhaps you've seen too many Bugs Bunny cartoons?


Heil LIKES to put down (personally) those who do not agree
with him.

Allow me to query you on whether you LIKE to put down those who do not
agree with you or if you feel badly about doing do.

Answer the main question existing before your latest
posting: Why do you condone filthy falsehoods about
pedophilia levelled against another amateur (stated
many times) by an extra class radio amateur in this
forum?


... Is there anything
in your behavior which you find to be less than admirable?

Tsk, tsk. More misdirection. You now charge others,
especially those who challenge you, with "imperfections"
and deliberately avoid answering a direct question.

Why do you condone filthy falsehoods about pedophilia
levelled against another amateur (stated many times)
by an extra class radio amateur in this forum?

Do you think that Brian Burke MOLESTS boy scouts?
Answer yes or no.

I do NOT believe that pedophilia charge and applaud
Brian's work with Scouting. I hold "Robesin's" charge
that Burke is a pedophile to be a FILTHY FALSEHOOD.

By your NON comment on an obvious filthy falsehood, you
tacitly condone such things stated by a fellow amateur
extra.

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
From: on Mon, Sep 11 2006 1:05 am



On 10 Sep 2006 20:34:12 -0700, "

From: Dave Heil on Sun, Sep 10 2006 3:20 pm

wrote:

wrote:

Dave Heil wrote: Brian P. Burke molests those boy scouts


why do you choose to emulate robeson tactic and Wismens?

To Mark: Note the obfuscation technique of Heil here,
he completely avoids the issue of Robesin's baseless
charge that Brian Burke "molests his boy scouts." That
way he doesn't 'have' to answer anything and plays the
poor wounded morseman extra 'insulted' by others! :-)

yep it is the MMM SoP


Translation for others: Mighty Macho Morsemen Standard
Operating Procedure = 'MMM SOP.'

When pressed for anything resembling a valid reply, and
not getting one, the HOMOPHOBIA card is played. Anyone
not liking/loving morsemanship is alleged to be "queer."
Brian is a no-code-test advocate and is also involved
in Scouting, ergo "Brian molests boy scouts" charge by
the homophobic morse zealots.


The only way any government agency gets employees is to pay them, Len.
I've explained diplomacy to you twice in recent weeks. Here it is for
the third time: Sometimes there is the carrot and the stick. Sometimes
there is just the carrot. Sometimes there is just the stick. Write it
down somewhere.

Wallace, take your carrot and stick it...or we will sic
Grommit on you.

Webster's New World Compact School and Office Dictionary
has two meanings for DIPLOMACY; "(1) The conducting of
relations between nations; (2) Tact."

Your attempt at definition is a FAILURE...but that may
explain why the USA is not doing well in foreign relations
in the last couple of decades or so. Obviously you were
not among those actually practicing diplomacy.


No reply from Heil. :-)

I've replied previously. Perhaps you missed the replies or maybe you
didn't understand them. There's "carrot and stick", "carrot" and
"stick". I don't understand your vision of U.S. Foreign Policy. It was
worked very well in the past couple of decades. We don't have foreign
relations with non-governments. The Soviet Union is gone. Milosovich
is gone. Saddam is gone. The Taliban regime is gone. The Baltic
republics are free. Poland is free. Hungary is free. Czechoslovakia
(now as the Czech Republic and Slovakia) is free. Romania is free.
Albania is free. Eastern Germany is free and has been united with the
rest of Germany. Shall I go on?

Blather on, you had nothing to do with forming policy, you were only a
ram chip installer.

He may be still searching for "Wallace and Grommit." :-)

Are you reading up on carrots and sticks?

He doesn't try to take credit for making foreign policy like you do,
remf.


Don't try more misdirection or obfuscation. Answer
directly. Why do you condone Robesin?

because he wants to say the same things but mostly can't bring himself
to?


Heil LIKES to put down (personally) those who do not agree
with him.

Allow me to query you on whether you LIKE to put down those who do not
agree with you or if you feel badly about doing do. What feelings go
through your being when using terms like "Mother Superior", "Sister Nun
of the Above", "Robesin", "Herr Robust", "Dudly", "Mama Dee", "little
feldwebel" and the like? Perhaps you are simply unable to help
yourself. Are you like the mother crab, advising her offspring not to
walk sideways?

Poor Davey, he can't take a dose of his own medicine.

But, he does not want the "image" of Robesin
to corrupt him. Rather, he corrupts himself in his own
way.

Tell us if you feel that you've been corrupted, Len. Is there anything
in your behavior which you find to be less than admirable?

Robesin is a morseman. Heil is a morseman. The MMM all
stick together.

Do you, Brian and Mark stick together for any particular reason? Is it
because the three of you find common ground in your abhorrence of
anything to do with morse code or is it that water seeks its own level?

And you seek the sewage level.

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Sun, Sep 10 2006 3:20 pm


wrote:

wrote:

Dave Heil wrote: Brian P. Burke molests those boy scouts

why do you choose to emulate robeson tactic and Wismens?


To Mark: Note the obfuscation technique of Heil here,
he completely avoids the issue of Robesin's baseless
charge that Brian Burke "molests his boy scouts."

I'm quite happy to avoid the "issue". I've condoned nothing and have no
horse in this race.

That
way he doesn't 'have' to answer anything and plays the
poor wounded morseman extra 'insulted' by others! :-)

I don't have to answer *anything* on *any topic* to you, old soldier.
You aren't in charge. At ease!

I pointed out the peculiarity of Brian's chit-chatting with Mark on a
number of topics while not acknowledging that Mark has engaged in
wholesale flooding of this newsgroup with his mindless drivel.


The only way any government agency gets employees is to pay them, Len.
I've explained diplomacy to you twice in recent weeks. Here it is for
the third time: Sometimes there is the carrot and the stick. Sometimes
there is just the carrot. Sometimes there is just the stick. Write it
down somewhere.


Wallace, take your carrot and stick it...or we will sic
Grommit on you.

We? Who the hell is "we"? You cried out for information on how
diplomacy works. I provided it. If you don't care for my description,
you are entitled to receive double your old beliefs back in exchange.

Webster's New World Compact School and Office Dictionary
has two meanings for DIPLOMACY; "(1) The conducting of
relations between nations; (2) Tact."

....and I've told you just how diplomacy works. The carrot and stick,
just the carrot and just the stick is exactly how diplomacy works
between nations. The tact part comes into play in the manner in which
we explain how we intend to use the carrot and stick, just the carrot or
just the stick.

Your attempt at definition is a FAILURE...

My attempt at definition is very, very accurate. The U.S. has sometimes
told another country (in a very tactful manner) that it will offer
incentives if that country does something which the U.S. wants it to do.
It explains that if the country does not take that course of action,
that a trade embargo or blockade might result. [the carrot and stick]

On other occasions, the U.S. lets it be known that it would look very
favorably on another country's decision to take a particular couse of
action. No penalties are implied. [the carrot]

There are times when the U.S. feels that neither the first or second
course of action has produced the desired result. The U.S. may choose
to intervene economically or militarily. [the stick]

but that may
explain why the USA is not doing well in foreign relations
in the last couple of decades or so. Obviously you were
not among those actually practicing diplomacy.

Your claim that the U.S. is not doing well in foreign relations over the
past two decades is false.


Davie is a PARTICIPANT in insulting anyone who doesn't love,
cherish, and honor morsemanship.

I've encountered many who don't love, cherish and honor Morse Code.
I've insulted only a very few of them. You are one of the few. Enjoy
being special.


(1) You DO admit insulting those of us who do not love,
cherish, honor and obey morsemanship! Epiphany?

At no time have I denied insulting you, Len. You ask for everything
your receive. You're a horse's patoot.

(2) There are MANY in here who are not fans of
morsemanship. We are all "special?" Must be,
you've insulted all of us.

That is false.


Makes one wonder who (or what) Davie molests...

Does it? You're starting to write like Roger Wiseman.


Tsk, poor Davie cannot put down this latest enemy?

Would you like a dose or two of him, Len? The guy doesn't know how to
behave on the air, in the newsgroups or in society.

You might try unsticking that carrot of yours and talk
about the subject of the thread.

You might want to talk about one of your friendly correspondents, after
unsticking both stick and carrot.

Now WHY is it you
condone the postings of filthy falsehoods by this
other morseman extra we call 'Robesin?'

I've condoned nothing of the kind.

Don't try more misdirection or obfuscation. Answer
directly. Why do you condone Robesin?

Here it is, quite directly, Len: I have condoned no such thing,
certainly no one named "Robesin".


Dave

On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 17:44:05 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:32:02 GMT, Dave Heil
wrote:

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Sun, Sep 10 2006 3:20 pm


wrote:

wrote:

Dave Heil wrote: Brian P. Burke molests those boy scouts

why do you choose to emulate robeson tactic and Wismens?


To Mark: Note the obfuscation technique of Heil here,
he completely avoids the issue of Robesin's baseless
charge that Brian Burke "molests his boy scouts."

I'm quite happy to avoid the "issue". I've condoned nothing and have no
horse in this race.

liar you restore and posted the title accusing BB of chil molestation

----
"From these studies and many more, it is evident that homosexuals molest
children at a far greater rate than do their heterosexual counterparts.
While they comprise only 1-2% of the population, they are responsible
for upwards of a third or more of all sexual molestations of children."

http://www.traditionalvalues.org/urban/one.php