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Dave Heil wrote:
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Dave Heil wrote:
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Tsk, tsk, you've TOLD ME what I should have done in the
military...


What did Jim TELL YOU that you should have been doing, Len?
Was it something about not fabrication experience in combat?

....yet you've never served in the military or in
the US government. I served 8 years in the US Army.


At ease, old soldier. I served in the military and the U.S. government.
Look what fabrications you've come up with on that.

You can see and read what I did for three years there via:

http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf

6 MB in size, takes about 19 minutes download on a dial-up
connection. Twenty pages with many photo illustrations.
High-power HF transmitters. 1953 to 1956.


Reruns of "Look what I did".

The other reason for Len's antics is so he can tell us, once again, the
different things he's done.


"It ain't braggin' if ya done it!" :-)


It isn't "all that", Leonard Baby.

Have you noticed that Len doesn't ask about what other people have done
in *amateur* radio? And this is an *amateur* radio newsgroup!


Tsk, I have done so. All that you've displayed (via links)
is an old 70's era receiver, supposedly built for less than
$100, on Kees Talen's website "HBR" pages (HomeBrew Receiver,
after the various "HBR" articles in QST of decades ago).


(Insert the profile of Leonard's actions here)


Didja know Fessenden's 1906 "broadcast" used an alternator transmitter?
I surely did.

Of course that limited his voice-radio operations to below 100 kHz
(3000 meters)


Tsk, tsk, that was before 1920. 1920 is 86 years ago.


Your ADA sojourn began about fifty-three years back, didn't it, Len?
Why do you live in the past so much?

Why do you live in the past so much?

For a double-degreed education in things electrical you
just displayed a surprising amount of ILL logic and
definite misunderstanding of the real definition of
"practical."

Note the dig at my BSEE and MSEE degrees. What Len doesn't realize is
that, in the history of electrical engineering, all sorts of
now-incredible things were once considered practical.



Some insist that "Greenlee Chassis Punches" are necessary
for homebuilt radio construction.


Who has insisted that, Len. Feel free to use a drill and a saber saw
with a metal-cutting blade.

Is ONLY "practical" for knocking out conduit attachment
holes in electrical power distribution boxes or some
70s-era boatanchor construction project (i.e., using
vacuum tubes and needing socket holes for same).


That's a factual error as anyone who builds linear amplifiers, builds
other electronic gear or installs a ball mount for an antenna on an
automobile can tell you.

Greenlee is still a corporation in Rockford, IL, but they
seem to have stopped making "chassis punches" for radio
hobbyists.


There's another of your factual errors. Greenlee still sells chassis
punches--round ones, square ones, those shaped for D-connectors, power
sockets. There's even a hydraulic punch set. The U.S. Government buys
loads of them. The company's "hole making" product information can be
downloaded--all 7.9 mb of it.

http://www.greenlee.com/product/index.html


For example, the very first operational general-purpose electronic
digital computer was the ENIAC, which was built at one of my alma
maters here in Philadelphia. Its design and construction were paid for
(some would say "subsidized") by the U.S. Army (some would say "the
taxpayers"). Its original stated purpose was for the calculation of
artillery aiming information.


"Firing Tables" those are called, Jimmie. Ever spot
artillery fall, Jimmie? Oh, you weren't IN the
military! That's right...


As I recall, you wrote a very well known piece about what it is like to
undergo an artillery barrage. When and where did that take place, Len?
Can your friend Gene confirm it?

Some may point to machines like the Colossus, Mark 1 or even the ABC as
the "first computer". But they all lack something that ENIAC had. Some,
like the ABC and even Babbage's Difference Engine, were never fully
operational. Some, like the Mark 1, used relays and mechanics for
calculation, and were not really electronic. Some were built for a
specific task, such as breaking codes, and were not really general
purpose. Some were partly or entirely analog, such as the Differential
Analyzer. ENIAC was the first to do it all.


ENIAC "broke codes?" Really? "Did it all?" :-)

Ever hear of 'the BSTJ?' That's the Bell System Technical
Journal. Before the Bell break-up it was published
(mostly) monthly. They had a nice write-up in it on the
three electromechanical 'computers' that Bell Labs made
for making Firing Tables during WWII.

Good old "amateur radio subject in an amateur radio
newsgroup!" :-)


Didn't you just bring up your experiences at ADA?


ENIAC took up an enormous amount of space and power, used over 17,000
tubes and required programming in machine language to do anything
useful.


Jimmie ever do any "programming in machine language?" At any
time? I have. Want me to list them? :-)


That's not necessary, Len. Why not tell us any of the things you've
done in amateur radio?


That's why I wrote the above ENIAC story.


BFD. You went to Moore, "touched" the museum piece that it is.


(insert the profile here)


How many computers made today have a useful life as long as ENIAC?


My HP Pavilion box for one. My wife's HP Pavilion for two.
One hellishly FASTER clock rate than ENIAC, enormous RAM,
ROM, and mass storage medium. Built about 4 years ago.


Let us know if you replace it before eleven years.


I got to see and touch parts of ENIAC.


Wowee. I've touched the Liberty Bell at Independance Hall
in Philly. Between the two, I'd much prefer the Liberty
Bell. ENIAC is defunct. Liberty is NOT.


Liberty is not a bell.


Also read the papers on it. A
machine that changed the world, made from very ordinary parts and
techniques, assembled in a new way.


PR minutae you spout.


Hey! You were finally able to work in the plural form of the word.


Webster's spells it "minutia" for singular, "minutiae" for plural.
Len's should have chosen the singular. He made an error.

Typical.


Tsk, tsk, Jimmie lays on the MINUTAE in plural form so much
that I was correct. :-)


No, Len, you were not correct. You were corrected.

WTF Moore School and ENIAC have to do with AMATEUR RADIO POLICY
seems to have vanished in Jimmieworld.


What was that url for the info about ADA?

The main point is that it's not superfluous. Voice radio was
"practical" enough for MW broadcasting by 1920 - that's not an opinion,
it's a demonstrated fact.
Yes. There is nothing currently underway to move toward anything in the
near future to change amplitude modulation for medium wave broadcasting.

There are AM BC receivers from the 1920s that, if restored, will
perform admirably today in their intended purpose.


Then let the Navy use them. :-) ["perform admirably" :-) ]

Some NTSC TV sets from 60 years ago, if restored, can still be used to
watch VHF TV.


Why? Aren't those good for 80m "CW" transceiver parts?
[rock-bound at 3.58 MHz... :-) ]

"Cost less than $100...etc., etc., etc." :-)

Of course HDTV will eventually replace NTSC.


"Eventually?!?" The transition phase is and has been underway
NOW, Jimmie. Here in the USA, not on some "website."


Only a fraction of the American people are watching HDTV. Most aren't
even aware of what will hit them in a couple of years. People are still
running out to K-Mart and Wally World and buying new *analog* TV sets.
Some compromise sets are being marketed as EDTV for "Enhanced Definition".

Once you watch DTV in operation, side by side with an older
NTSC set, the tremendous difference in DTV can be seen AND
heard. With the truly flat-screen LCD, Plasma, or DLP display
with a wider picture than possible with NTSC, the detail and
expanse is striking with DTV.


It'll be possible to watch DTV with a simple converter. Those will
extend the life of analog televisions for many years. The Feds are even
going to help pay for the converter boxes. I don't recall them doing
that when the UHF-TV channels came into existence.

There'll be a big learning curve for the non-city dwelling owners of new
HDTV receivers. They'll find that they have to use antennas with fairly
high gain, preamps and rotators. They'll be using those rotators quite
often. I ended up buying a Channel Master rotator with remote control
and memory.

Jimmie say "if it ain't broke, don't fix it?" Tsk, Jimmie be
the Amish of ham radio. Jimmie love horse-and-buggy comms
using morse code? [note similarity of 'horse' and 'morse']


(insert profile here)

He knows very little about me and has resorted to wild speculation and
untruths for a long time.


Tsk. Typical bluffmanship on Jimmie's part.


It was an accurate statement, Leonard. You don't know much about Jim.
You have resorted to wild speculation and untruths.

He no say what
he do but he IMPLIES lots.


Sounds like a conspiracy to me.

Sounds like that USMC Imposter
Robeson's tactic.


Why not bring his name up with your new recruiter friend. As an
alternative, have Brian Burke contact "Stolen Valor".

Jimmie keep things SECRET. Very hush-hush. Somebody say
Jimmie know nothing, they "LIARS." Just like Robeson.


You do washee?

See above about ENIAC. It was very practical, in its time - but never
repeated.


ENIAC defuct.


The same can't be said for you.

Flunked in reliability, flunked in architecture
(BCD accumulators/registers, not binary). NEVER repeated.
A MUSEUM PIECE.


As are you, dear Leonard.


I'm still looking for a definition of "morsemanship"


Poor baby. Can't understand it? Post-graduate degree and
you still can't connect the dots? :-)


He has a license which says he can connect the dots and the dashes.
Do you have such documentation? Tsk, tsk, poor baby.


My history sources go far beyond ARRL publications.
And ARRL history isn't "bowdlerized".


ARRL carefully OMITS certain items of history and IMPLIES
amateurs are 'responsible' for all advances. :-)


You've made another untruthful statement. Note the lack of a smiley.

Beyond the Thomas White radio history pages, Jimmie not
mention any of his "sources" that go beyond League
publications.


You're an old cut and paste man, Len. What do you normally do in such a
situation?


I was writing about non-amateur use of Morse Code in radio.


Why Jimmie do dat? This be AMATEUR Radio newsgroup.


What's that ADA url?


Notice how Len doesn't mention any HF experience of his after ADA,
except cb?


WRONG. Civil avionics work included HF...used in US
Aviation Radio Service. Maritime Radio Service
includes personal use of an HF SSB transceiver
(SGC-2020) two years ago. Contract work involved
DoD design and evaluation which did not need my
civilian Commercial operator license sign-off.



All fine stuff, Len. I'm convinced.


To do so would require not only a license, but assembling a station.


"Plug and play" nowadays, was that way a half century
ago. :-)


Sure it is, Len. Just unbox your tower and antennas (all
pre-assembled), set them up in the yard, connect a microphone and "Hello
World". Right.

Collins Radio used to make whole stations,
quit the amateur radio market and still makes money.


Don't they make whole stations anymore?

Note that while Len talks endlessly about places he has worked and
projects he has worked on, there's almost nothing about radio projects
he has done himself, with his own money, at home.


This newsgroup is Amateur Radio Policy, not Amateur Radio
Homebrew. :-)


It isn't alt.radio.commercial or alt.radio.military either, old boy. :-)

Jimmie wanna see my home workshop? Have it digitized,
was sent to three others. Wanna see the HP 608D and
the 606 signal generators, the 60 MHz dual-channel
scopes (note plural), the 1 KW Variac below the bench?


You're kind of light in the Variac department, Len. Don't you have
anything which will handle real power?

Poor baby. Jimmie jealous? Jimmie work at just ONE
employer his whole life? Jimmie NOT serve in military.
Jimmie NOT serve in government. Jimmie "serves" the
nation by his ham radio hobby?


You're a pathetic and childish geezer, Len. You really need a way to
fill your idle hours.


There's the one-tube unlicensed oscillator transmitter of 1948, his
conversion of some ARC-5s and their sale, the store-bought ICOM
receiver and the compact Johnson....and not much else.


WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.

Two complete ARC-5 receiver-transmitters for 40 meters.
Conversion earned me some money on resale. I still have
one 6-9 MHz ARC-5 receiver that runs, assorted parts from
both receivers and transmitters. Did that in 1948,
not the "phonograph transmitter" built as a lark in
1947...which worked on the AM BC band and did not violate
any FCC regulations at the time. :-)


Maybe you could whip together a modern, solid state version of the phono
oscillator and play at being a junior ham, Len. You could CQ, assign
yourself an "XB-523" call and all. You might convince a neighbor to
build one too. You could have a blast.

Oh, my, a "store-bought Icom receiver!" Their model IC-R70.
Paid for "in cash" (check, actually) at an HRO in Van Nuys,
CA (later moved to two successive locations in Burbank, CA).
Cost about $600 then. No problem, could afford it.
Ask USMC Imposter Robeson about any of those HRO stores.
He says he's been to two of them "with friends." :-)


Surely he's fabricating. You could check with the recruiter and get
some sort of investigation going right away.

Would you like my old checkbook balance digitized so you
can view it for your 'verification?' How about I digitize
the receipt? Or do you want to wait for the famous
Background Check that Paul seems to want done? :-)


Paul didn't say anything about a background check, Len. He addressed
the IEEE Code of Ethics.

Oh, yeah, the "compact Johnson." The E. F. Johnson
Viking Messenger is small but not necessarily compact.
If you need some verification I can get some URLs for
CB nostalgia types for you.


It is a very tiny Johnson, Len. Your has been gathering dust for years.

On the "compact johnson,"
your allusion to my penis, let's just say I've
satisfied two wives and a dozen girlfriends with my
"goodie woody."


*Guffaw!* I'm sure that the story and equipment used with grow with the
countless retellings, Leonard.

Would you be satisfied with my primary
physician's note on its size, digitized and sent to
you?


I would personally treasure such a document for the rest of my life,
Leonard. It would confirm every notion I've ever had about your state
of being, both physical and emotional.

Or will you wait for Paul's Background Check to
verify that bit of AMATEUR RADIO POLICY you want to
talk about? Hmmm? You like penises, Jimmie?


It sounds as if you're discussing superfluous minutae, Len.


Plus if FCC *does* drop Element 1, what will Len do?


Then I will drop the advocacy of eliminating the morse
code test...as I have written many times in here. There
would be no NEED for advocacy of eliminating that test
since it had already been eliminated in that case.


That isn't the same as saying that you'd be finished with advocating.
Your statement addresses one very specific item.

Tsk, you are SO unbelieving, all that FABRICATION about
"reasons" you imagine! Poor baby.


We've seen you in action for better than a decade. Tsk, task, poor baby.


Len could have had a no-code tech ages ago.


Len had a Commercial First 'Phone since 1956, has used
that in many more places on the EM spectrum than are
allowed to US radio amateurs.


A commercial license can't be used in amateur radio, Len. Sorry.

Mostly for money but
some times just for fun.


Are you discussing your tiny, dusty Johnson?


See you on the air, Dave.


Using very slow-scan ATV? Perhaps using morse code
pixels? You have morse code glasses? Your Elecraft
kit have a built-in spectrum analyzer? Video viewer?


How about if we use any band or mode available to us? You, of course,
may do as you can.




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From: Dave Heil on Sun, Oct 8 2006 4:28 am


wrote:
From: on Sat, Oct 7 2006 6:39 am
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
From: on Tues, Oct 3 2006 3:25 pm
wrote:


Tsk, tsk, you've TOLD ME what I should have done in the
military...


What did Jim TELL YOU that you should have been doing, Len?


It's in the archives where Jimmie likes to live. :-)


You can see and read what I did for three years there via:


http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf


6 MB in size, takes about 19 minutes download on a dial-up
connection. Twenty pages with many photo illustrations.
High-power HF transmitters. 1953 to 1956.


Reruns of "Look what I did".


Not "I," old soldier-statesman, what *we* in the
battalion did. 8235th Army Unit.

It's for historical interest purposes. The only other one
(a much larger one) is at www.usarmygermany.com that was
put together by Walter Elkins about the Signal effort in
Europe.

If you sneer too much at the My3Years.pdf, then feel free
to substitute AlphabetSoup.pdf, a copy of my battalion's
own production of its mission tasks circa 1962. That
courtesy of Mr. James Brendage, a retired civilian
engineer who worked at ADA when I was serving there.

If you don't like either of those, then substitute either
one of the two remaining, one on microwave radio relay,
the other on the SCR-300, both from a technical standpoint.
The SCR-300 was the first walkie-talkie, a backpack VHF
transceiver, introduced during WW2, designed and built by
Galvin Mfg (later to be renamed Motorola).

It's all about RADIO and COMMUNICATIONS.


Your ADA sojourn began about fifty-three years back, didn't it, Len?
Why do you live in the past so much?


1. I live for the now and the future, not the past.

2. There is no copyright restriction on government works,
therefore no need to get written permission.

3. There is no security classification on the material
I've presented...neither from the DoD nor private
company non-disclosure agreements.



Greenlee is still a corporation in Rockford, IL, but they
seem to have stopped making "chassis punches" for radio
hobbyists.


There's another of your factual errors.


My bad. :-) Does Greenlee take out ads in QST, QEX?

How about Popular Communications? Any ads in there?

Greenlee still sells chassis
punches--round ones, square ones, those shaped for D-connectors, power
sockets. There's even a hydraulic punch set. The U.S. Government buys
loads of them. The company's "hole making" product information can be
downloaded--all 7.9 mb of it.

http://www.greenlee.com/product/index.html


Are you on commission from Greenlee? :-)

No sweat, old soldier-statesman, I've been IN Greenlee on
a visit, have seen the little corner of one building where
two guys were making punches and files.

Send your download to Lowes or Home Depot corporate head-
quarters, see if they are interested.

I still have old Greenlee chassis punches from before the
60s, still wrapped in oily paper, get checked now and then
for rust. They were all used decades ago...only two have
been reground on the edges (did that myself, no problem).

Not much use for those punches now in the solid-state era.
Especially when there are so many KITS available for those
who claim to design their own. :-)



Jimmie ever do any "programming in machine language?" At any
time? I have. Want me to list them? :-)


That's not necessary, Len. Why not tell us any of the things you've
done in amateur radio?


You mean the software mods I made for two other hams
don't apply? [Microchip Corp. PIC microcontrollers]

How about a series of bandpass filters for the HF bands
where I did the toroid windings, capacitor selection,
assembly, shielding, and alignment? Using my own
computer program "LCie4"?

Oh, be still my heart, the great soldier-statesman has
put me down! :-)


Only a fraction of the American people are watching HDTV. Most aren't
even aware of what will hit them in a couple of years. People are still
running out to K-Mart and Wally World and buying new *analog* TV sets.


Thank you for the attempt at being an electronics
industry "insider." It is nice to know that someone
cares.


There'll be a big learning curve for the non-city dwelling owners of new
HDTV receivers. They'll find that they have to use antennas with fairly
high gain, preamps and rotators. They'll be using those rotators quite
often. I ended up buying a Channel Master rotator with remote control
and memory.


That's nice. Are you going for some kind of amateur HDTV
award or contest?




He knows very little about me and has resorted to wild speculation and
untruths for a long time.


Tsk. Typical bluffmanship on Jimmie's part.


It was an accurate statement, Leonard. You don't know much about Jim.
You have resorted to wild speculation and untruths.


How can something be "untrue" if there is NO basis to
judge? Id est, as in his never saying...but you MUST
call a speculation a LIE?

Sounds like the old Waffen SS trick again.



ARRL carefully OMITS certain items of history and IMPLIES
amateurs are 'responsible' for all advances. :-)


You've made another untruthful statement.


My apology for offending your religious beliefs. However,
the TRUTH is not heresy.



Jimmie wanna see my home workshop? Have it digitized,
was sent to three others. Wanna see the HP 608D and
the 606 signal generators, the 60 MHz dual-channel
scopes (note plural), the 1 KW Variac below the bench?


You're kind of light in the Variac department, Len. Don't you have
anything which will handle real power?


Yes...it's labeled "4 Stacks" on aeronautical sectional
charts.

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pilot joke, old soldier-statesman]



You're a pathetic and childish geezer, Len.


Awwww...you are TOO sweet... :-)


You really need a way to fill your idle hours.


"Idle?"

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Paul didn't say anything about a background check, Len. He addressed
the IEEE Code of Ethics.


YOU addressed the IEEE Code of Ethics, failing to write
all of it. Paul picked up on that and wanted to get in
some kind of "fight" about it.

YOU have the mailing address of the IEEE. Feel free to
write them and complain about my behavior in the news-
group and how that "violates" the Professional Code of
Ethics about engineering WORK. Be sure and document
everything from BOTH sides, such as your own name-
calling ("You're a pathetic and childish geezer").
Tell the IEEE that your "soldier-statesman" image has
been "tarnished" by "insults" in here. Go ahead, make
your day.



Are you discussing your tiny, dusty Johnson?


No, but you seem to have overmuch interest in it.

Did you munch a lot of nuts while in Guinea-Bisseau?
[cashews are their biggest export...]


As always to you, ByteBrothers famous phrase invoked...

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wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Sun, Oct 8 2006 4:28 am


wrote:
From: on Sat, Oct 7 2006 6:39 am
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
From: on Tues, Oct 3 2006 3:25 pm
wrote:


Tsk, tsk, you've TOLD ME what I should have done in the
military...

What did Jim TELL YOU that you should have been doing, Len?


It's in the archives where Jimmie likes to live. :-)


That you chose not to provide that information is noted. :-)



You can see and read what I did for three years there via:
http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf
6 MB in size, takes about 19 minutes download on a dial-up
connection. Twenty pages with many photo illustrations.
High-power HF transmitters. 1953 to 1956.


Reruns of "Look what I did".


Not "I," old soldier-statesman, what *we* in the
battalion did. 8235th Army Unit.


The rest of 'em aren't posting here, Len. There's just you.

It's for historical interest purposes.


Any historical interest in it here seems to have dried up with the
repeated tellings.

The only other one
(a much larger one) is at www.usarmygermany.com that was
put together by Walter Elkins about the Signal effort in
Europe.


I'm a little more interested in the ON4UN 160m signal efforts in Europe.

If you sneer too much at the My3Years.pdf, then feel free
to substitute AlphabetSoup.pdf, a copy of my battalion's
own production of its mission tasks circa 1962. That
courtesy of Mr. James Brendage, a retired civilian
engineer who worked at ADA when I was serving there.


I have no real interest in looking at them, Len. Thanks just the same.

If you don't like either of those, then substitute either
one of the two remaining, one on microwave radio relay,
the other on the SCR-300, both from a technical standpoint.
The SCR-300 was the first walkie-talkie, a backpack VHF
transceiver, introduced during WW2, designed and built by
Galvin Mfg (later to be renamed Motorola).


No thanks, Len.

It's all about RADIO and COMMUNICATIONS.


That's nice. This is all about amateur radio communications.


Your ADA sojourn began about fifty-three years back, didn't it, Len?
Why do you live in the past so much?


1. I live for the now and the future, not the past.


Your frequent references to what you did at ADA say otherwise.

2. There is no copyright restriction on government works,
therefore no need to get written permission.


So you regale this newsgroup with the same tired tale because there's no
copyright?

3. There is no security classification on the material
I've presented...neither from the DoD nor private
company non-disclosure agreements.


That's too bad.



Greenlee is still a corporation in Rockford, IL, but they
seem to have stopped making "chassis punches" for radio
hobbyists.

There's another of your factual errors.


My bad. :-) Does Greenlee take out ads in QST, QEX?


Get your own copies. Your error noted.

How about Popular Communications? Any ads in there?


You can pick it up at newsstands or subscribe.

Greenlee still sells chassis
punches--round ones, square ones, those shaped for D-connectors, power
sockets. There's even a hydraulic punch set. The U.S. Government buys
loads of them. The company's "hole making" product information can be
downloaded--all 7.9 mb of it.

http://www.greenlee.com/product/index.html


Are you on commission from Greenlee? :-)


I used to be. :-) That's one of the lines I've sold in the past.

No sweat, old soldier-statesman, I've been IN Greenlee on
a visit, have seen the little corner of one building where
two guys were making punches and files.


Superfluous minutiae.

Send your download to Lowes or Home Depot corporate head-
quarters, see if they are interested.


I no longer sell industrial electronic parts.

I still have old Greenlee chassis punches from before the
60s, still wrapped in oily paper, get checked now and then
for rust. They were all used decades ago...only two have
been reground on the edges (did that myself, no problem).


I have two different sets, with some overlap in sizes. The difference
between yours and mine are that mine are used pretty frequently.

Not much use for those punches now in the solid-state era.


That is simply another of your factual errors. Anyone who uses DB
connectors, power connectors, holes for rocker switches or meters, can
use a set of the punches.

Especially when there are so many KITS available for those
who claim to design their own. :-)


And here we have another of your factual errors. You really do make
quite many.



Jimmie ever do any "programming in machine language?" At any
time? I have. Want me to list them? :-)


That's not necessary, Len. Why not tell us any of the things you've
done in amateur radio?


You mean the software mods I made for two other hams
don't apply? [Microchip Corp. PIC microcontrollers]


No, I don't mean those.

How about a series of bandpass filters for the HF bands
where I did the toroid windings, capacitor selection,
assembly, shielding, and alignment? Using my own
computer program "LCie4"?


No, I don't mean that.

Oh, be still my heart, the great soldier-statesman has
put me down! :-)


It isn't the first time.


Only a fraction of the American people are watching HDTV. Most aren't
even aware of what will hit them in a couple of years. People are still
running out to K-Mart and Wally World and buying new *analog* TV sets.


Thank you for the attempt at being an electronics
industry "insider." It is nice to know that someone
cares.


I think you'll find that I'm pretty well up to date on consumer,
industrial and computer electronics items as well as the amateur radio
market. Is there anything specific, other than the Greenlee product
line, that you wish to know more about?

There'll be a big learning curve for the non-city dwelling owners of new
HDTV receivers. They'll find that they have to use antennas with fairly
high gain, preamps and rotators. They'll be using those rotators quite
often. I ended up buying a Channel Master rotator with remote control
and memory.


That's nice. Are you going for some kind of amateur HDTV
award or contest?


I'm pretty sure that there are no consumer-PROFESSIONALS in HDTV.
No, Len, I'm pointing to the fact that quite a number of others are
going to find themselves in the same boat. I have two "locals" but one
of them is forty-five miles away near Steubenville, Ohio. The other HD
stations are in Athens, Ohio; Pittsburgh and Johnstown, Pennsylvania--a
goodly distance away. The only way to see them is to turn the antenna.




He knows very little about me and has resorted to wild speculation and
untruths for a long time.
Tsk. Typical bluffmanship on Jimmie's part.

It was an accurate statement, Leonard. You don't know much about Jim.
You have resorted to wild speculation and untruths.


How can something be "untrue" if there is NO basis to
judge?


A number of your statements begin, "You have never...", when you do not,
in fact, know if Jim has ever done something.


Id est, as in his never saying...but you MUST
call a speculation a LIE?


"You have never..." does not indicate speculation.

Sounds like the old Waffen SS trick again.


If the shoe fits...


ARRL carefully OMITS certain items of history and IMPLIES
amateurs are 'responsible' for all advances. :-)

You've made another untruthful statement.


My apology for offending your religious beliefs. However,
the TRUTH is not heresy.


....and your inaccuracies do not represent the truth.



Jimmie wanna see my home workshop? Have it digitized,
was sent to three others. Wanna see the HP 608D and
the 606 signal generators, the 60 MHz dual-channel
scopes (note plural), the 1 KW Variac below the bench?

You're kind of light in the Variac department, Len. Don't you have
anything which will handle real power?


Yes...it's labeled "4 Stacks" on aeronautical sectional
charts.

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pilot joke, old soldier-statesman]


Then you'll want to remember it for the "I wanted to be a pilot, but
never did that either" newsgroup.

You're a pathetic and childish geezer, Len.


Awwww...you are TOO sweet... :-)


Only you could take it as a compliment. :-)


You really need a way to fill your idle hours.


"Idle?"

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes, Len, your idle hours. You shouldn't be bothering military
recruiters and haunting newsgroups which deal with things in which you
aren't a participant.


Paul didn't say anything about a background check, Len. He addressed
the IEEE Code of Ethics.


YOU addressed the IEEE Code of Ethics, failing to write
all of it.


Yes, I addressed it. Paul addressed it.

I included those portions which you regularly violate here.


Paul picked up on that and wanted to get in
some kind of "fight" about it.


You see it as a fight. I see it as his concern.

YOU have the mailing address of the IEEE. Feel free to
write them and complain about my behavior in the news-
group and how that "violates" the Professional Code of
Ethics about engineering WORK.


If you feel that it is something you only need to observe while working,
fine.

Be sure and document
everything from BOTH sides, such as your own name-
calling ("You're a pathetic and childish geezer").


Both sides? I'm not an IEEE member, Len. My statement toward you was a
direct comment on your behavior in this newsgroup. I believe it to be
accurate.

Tell the IEEE that your "soldier-statesman" image has
been "tarnished" by "insults" in here. Go ahead, make
your day.


I've never called myself a "soldier-statesman", Len. That's just
something else you've done.


Are you discussing your tiny, dusty Johnson?


No, but you seem to have overmuch interest in it.


"Overmuch" Is that some sort of PROFESSIONAL writer term?
I don't find your little Johnson interesting at all, Leonard.
I have a big Johnson.

Did you munch a lot of nuts while in Guinea-Bisseau?


Why sure, Len. We roasted them in oil and salted them. Don't you roast
your nuts?

[cashews are their biggest export...]


Superfluous minutia.


As always to you, ByteBrothers famous phrase invoked...


Maybe you'll get around to spelling it out someday.

Dave K8MN
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From: Dave Heil on Sat, Oct 7 2006 11:52 pm

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Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
From: on Tues, Oct 3 2006 3:25 pm
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It appears that Len expects me to reply to his "you have never..."
statements by saying what I have done in non-amateur radio. Old trick,
doesn't work.


It works! :-) Jimmie just hasn't done anything outside.

He has never been IN the military.

He has never been IN government.

He has never stated what he does for a living.


It hasn't stopped him from trying. He has never become a radio amateur
despite his several decades of self-declared "interest" in amateur radio.


How about that? I became a professional BEFORE anything
else! :-)


The other reason for Len's antics is so he can tell us, once again, the
different things he's done.


He should just number them. Instead of typing all of those words over
and over, he could just type something like "62."


What, no "69?" [Cecil and I probably agree on that one...:-) ]


If he tries a "you have never" and someone refutes it with details, Len
simply clams up.


Ah! "Justification" for that Imposter Robeson...a licensed
amateur extra and a pro-coder!

My, my, these pro-coders sure do hang together.

Cosier that way. They would otherwise hang separately. :-)

If they voluntarily post material describing something
they've done, Len uses that as an opportunity for insulting the poster.


I will insult any poster of Che Guevara I see. :-)

Most political posters glued to vertical spaces are
themselves insulting...


...and like ENIAC, Fessendon's feat was an advancement over what had
previously been possible.


"...had previously been possible." :-)


I'm glad we don't need that sort of thing today. I don't have room for
an ENIAC.


Sure you do in that rambling country antenna farm.

But, there's only ONE ENIAC and it is now a museum
piece. Defunct. Good only for show-and-tell.


I wonder if Len ever saw or touched ENIAC.


Why is that "necessary?" :-)


...and a high quality, tube-type BC set from the 1950's sounds every bit
as good as its modern, LSI counterpart.


Enjoy your vacuum tube set...until one of the tubes burns
out. :-)


He knows very little about me and has resorted to wild speculation and
untruths for a long time.


I'm sure you have an idea of his reasons for digging for information.


You WILL reveal to the forum your "reasons," won't you?

Of course you will, you both are pro-code amateur extras,
the 'superior' ones who know everything. :-)

You MUST "profile" all those who don't agree with you.


White's is very good - for what it covers. It essentially stops long
before WW2. Its treatment is heavy on broadcasting, light on amateurs
and nonbroadcasting commercial operation. IMHO.


But Len refers to it as if it is the Bible.


Not at all. Thomas H. White's radio history in the USA is
large, illustrated, and readily accessible on the web. It
was mentioned only because of its accessibility.

McGraw-Hill's ELECTRONICS magazine of April 17, 1980, had a
special commemorative Issue on their 50th anniversary.
Volume 53, Number 9, 650 pages, excellent overview with
many details, photographs from before Marconi's time to
1980. They didn't emphasize amateur radio because amateur
radio was really a small player in that bigger game of
electronics technology. Unless one was a subscriber to
Electronics magazine or has access to a technical library,
it isn't that easy to use as a reference.

Hugh G. J. Aitken's "The Continuous Wave: Technology and
American Radio," 1900-1932, Princeton University Press,
1985, 588 pages, soft cover, is a scholarly work, quite
complete and sponsored by the National Science Foundation.
Again, there isn't the highlighting of amateur radio a la
ARRL but that is for the real reason that amateur radio
wasn't considered a 'big player' in the technological
development of radio.

Aitken's earlier work, "Syntony and Spark: The Origins of
Radio" was done in 1976, reprinted in 1985 by Princeton
University Press. I don't have that handy at the moment
so I can't describe its size but it is another soft-
cover. Neither is readily available except from a
technical library.

What some amateurs call "The Collins Sideband Book," or
"Single Sideband Principles and Circuits," Pappenfus,
Bruene, and Schoenike, McGraw-Hill Book Company, 1964,
382 pages, has a good bit of HF communications history
in Chapter 1 up to copyright date of the book, more in
following chapters on various early SSB systems.

A veritable cornucopia of radio-electronics historical
information can be found on dozens of websites that don't
inwardly focus just on amateur radio. One can start with
the links listing at
http://sujan.hallikainen.org down
towards the bottom of the "Broadcast History" main page.
Harold Hallikainen is a licensed radio amateur, by the
way. From those links can be found much history of
communications and electronics, even military such as
Walter Elkins' www.usarmygermany.com website (huge,
detailed history of post-WW2 US Army history in USAEUR).
If you need to see a direct copy of US Army in the Far
East circa 1962, download my Military (page) upload of
http://sujan.hallikainen.org/BroadcastHistory/uploads/
AlphabetSoup.pdf. For things like the telecommunications
infrastructure there are several sites about this service
that is supposed to "fail" at every emergency (according
to some popular but erroneous myths among some hams)
such as the transcontinental microwave radio relay
system by AT&T that was, developments of microwave
vacuum tubes, slow-scan TV (other than amateur
experiments), cellular telephony, indeed nearly every
facet of "the telephone company." It might be noted
that the microwave radio relay system was an integral
part of US defense communications in the decades
before 1980...which is opposite of the "always fails"
claim of the infrastructure accusers. Some of that
includes the Western Electric Company early work that
helped bring the early vacuum tube into a reproducible,
reliable product.

At the IEEE website under "Milestones" (in electronics
and electrical power distribution) is a number of firsts
("milestones") in technology, the where-when-who of each
one. The IEEE spoken histories include interviews with
many of the movers-and-shakers, major to minor, of the
electronics industry, military, and aerospace field.
For other history there is the Radio Club of America,
the first membership organization in the USA and still
organized, containing a number of biographies of notable
radio pioneers and their work plus early radio sites and
stories. At the Corning Frequency Control website (now
acquired by another corporation ? and may have its URL
altered) is several papers on the history of quartz
crystal production in the USA before, during, and after
WW2 by participants in that work. There exist a great
number of websites on nearly all phases of electronics
and radio, done by individuals or groups who have been
there and done that without any "necessity" of first
getting an amateur radio license, then being a part of
the industry. Everything from a history of radio comms
in California state and local police (many photos) to a
specialty site about the SCR-300 walkie-talkie done by
the son of the chief designer at Galvin (later Motorola).
A New Jersey historical group has an extensive coverage
of the Coles, Evans, and Squier Laboratories very near
Fort Monmouth, NJ, the to-be-abandoned site of the US
Army Electronics Command...included in that is a large
description of the very first "moonbounce" dubbed Project
Diana that took place just after WW2 ended.

The number of places to get historical information on
electronics (including radio) is immense on the Internet.
It seems that many, many individuals have an INTEREST in
the whole sphere of the technology without having to "get
a ham license first." They were IN it before being told
they HAD to get that "first permission to enter" from
some blowhard control-freak ham.

He usually follows one of
those references with some sniping at the American Radio Relay League.


There is no denying that the publications output of the
ARRL is very large. They must do that in order to get the
income necessary to perform all their "free" services to
members. The ARRL has a virtual monopoly on amateur-
interest publications in the USA...no denying that, either.

But, the ARRL is also a political organization,
maintaining both a legal firm and a lobbying organization
in DC on retainer. As a political entity, they come
under the good old American tradition of being a target
for anyone who cares to comment. The League is NOT
without fault...except in the minds of its faithful
followers, the disciples of the Church of St. Hiram.

Having a virtual monopoly on radio-amateur-interest
publications also gives them a psychological power to
mold readers' opinions to those of the League hierarchy.
To deny that is to deny the power of marketing
techniques, of psychological propaganda activities that
go on daily in nearly all human activities.



Do you need to review the profile?


Len needs to review the profile.


No. "Profiles" work both ways. Heil and Miccolis have
both been "profiled" in here, not just by me but by
many others. It is the Nature of the (newsgroup) Beast.



Len seldom lets the truth get in the way of one of his monologues.


Tsk, Heil speaks an untruth.

OPINIONS are not "facts," just opinions.

Miccolis tries to manuever all opinion statements as "facts"
written by those he has problems with...thus garnering the
"accusations" of "untruth" or "error" when some just plain
don't like him. That he often comes across as an arch-
typical "mother superior" (complete with spanking ruler) is
lost on him. Prissy, as if sucking on sourballs when
writing up "error" "error" on those disagreeing with him.

Heil comes across as a stereotypical WW2 propaganda movie
Waffen SS officer, ordering others around, telling them
what they "should" do (his way, naturally). One can
almost see the sneer on his face, the monocle ready to
drop as his face gets more livid with order-barking,
the heels clicking.



I've noticed the talk of his workshop, but nothing about what comes out
of it.


Why should it? It is for MY enjoyment for myself, not
some "hey-look-at-me-and-what-marvelous-things-I've-done"
self promotion on some website. :-)

I've had it for four decades. Those I know have been
in it and we've talked mutual interest stuff about any
project then on-going. Material like that has been
exchanged privately. No need to make it public.



All vine, no fruit.


Southern California is not an ideal place for vinyards;
mid-state is best: Napa, Sonoma, Mendocino Counties.
California produces most of the wine consumed in the USA.

Southern California climate is good for citrus. My 35-
year-old lemon tree bears lemons all year around. The
dwarf orange hybrid is almost as productive.


For sure. SS is coming up fairly soon.


"Waffen?" Jahwhol! [click, click] :-)

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From: Dave Heil on Sat, Oct 7 2006 11:52 pm

wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
From: on Tues, Oct 3 2006 3:25 pm
wrote:



It appears that Len expects me to reply to his "you have never..."
statements by saying what I have done in non-amateur radio. Old trick,
doesn't work.


It works! :-) Jimmie just hasn't done anything outside.


There you go again, Mr. Anderson. You've told another untruth.

He has never been IN the military.

He has never been IN government.

He has never stated what he does for a living.



"Id est, as in his never saying...but you MUST
call a speculation a LIE?"

--Len Anderson

Your statements don't indicate speculation. You have no information of
the first two. I know for a fact that the third in false because he has
stated to me what he does for a living. I'm aware of at least one other
who knows what he does for a living. I guess you've been left out of
the loop.

It hasn't stopped him from trying. He has never become a radio amateur
despite his several decades of self-declared "interest" in amateur radio.


How about that? I became a professional BEFORE anything
else! :-)


I've never found it necessary to so limit myself. I was capable of
being a professional in electronics and a radio amateur as well. I've
have dozens of friends who've managed to do the same.


If he tries a "you have never" and someone refutes it with details, Len
simply clams up.


Ah! "Justification" for that Imposter Robeson...a licensed
amateur extra and a pro-coder!


Did you ever find that web page, Len?

My, my, these pro-coders sure do hang together.

Cosier that way. They would otherwise hang separately. :-)


Same tired line, presented on at least six or seven separate occasions.


If they voluntarily post material describing something
they've done, Len uses that as an opportunity for insulting the poster.


I will insult any poster of Che Guevara I see. :-)

Most political posters glued to vertical spaces are
themselves insulting...


You are juvenile.


...and like ENIAC, Fessendon's feat was an advancement over what had
previously been possible.


"...had previously been possible." :-)


It makes sense to me. What fault did you find with the statement?


I'm glad we don't need that sort of thing today. I don't have room for
an ENIAC.


Sure you do in that rambling country antenna farm.


You think someone would place a room-sized computer in the middle of a
field?

But, there's only ONE ENIAC and it is now a museum
piece. Defunct. Good only for show-and-tell.


That pretty wells sums up your current situation, doesn't it?


I wonder if Len ever saw or touched ENIAC.


Why is that "necessary?" :-)


Who said it was necessary, Len?


...and a high quality, tube-type BC set from the 1950's sounds every bit
as good as its modern, LSI counterpart.


Enjoy your vacuum tube set...until one of the tubes burns
out. :-)


Yeah, I guess I'd have to walk out to the barn and get another one.

I have hundreds and hundreds of vacuum tubes, Len and if I didn't, there
are still quite a number of places selling them.


He knows very little about me and has resorted to wild speculation and
untruths for a long time.


I'm sure you have an idea of his reasons for digging for information.


You WILL reveal to the forum your "reasons," won't you?


Do I need to do so? It is pretty obvious from your decade of posts to
the newsgroup.

Of course you will, you both are pro-code amateur extras,
the 'superior' ones who know everything. :-)


I don't know everything, Len. I'm superior to you in a number of ways.

You MUST "profile" all those who don't agree with you.


No person who favors the retention of Morse testing has profiled anyone
but you.


White's is very good - for what it covers. It essentially stops long
before WW2. Its treatment is heavy on broadcasting, light on amateurs
and nonbroadcasting commercial operation. IMHO.


But Len refers to it as if it is the Bible.


Not at all. Thomas H. White's radio history in the USA is
large, illustrated, and readily accessible on the web. It
was mentioned only because of its accessibility.

McGraw-Hill's ELECTRONICS magazine of April 17, 1980, had a
special commemorative Issue on their 50th anniversary.
Volume 53, Number 9, 650 pages, excellent overview with
many details, photographs from before Marconi's time to
1980. They didn't emphasize amateur radio because amateur
radio was really a small player in that bigger game of
electronics technology. Unless one was a subscriber to
Electronics magazine or has access to a technical library,
it isn't that easy to use as a reference.


Something contained in a single magazine cannot begin to cover much of
the history of radio.

Hugh G. J. Aitken's "The Continuous Wave: Technology and
American Radio," 1900-1932, Princeton University Press,
1985, 588 pages, soft cover, is a scholarly work, quite
complete and sponsored by the National Science Foundation.
Again, there isn't the highlighting of amateur radio a la
ARRL but that is for the real reason that amateur radio
wasn't considered a 'big player' in the technological
development of radio.


Again with the "real reason"! Where in the book is that statement made,
Leonard?

Aitken's earlier work, "Syntony and Spark: The Origins of
Radio" was done in 1976, reprinted in 1985 by Princeton
University Press. I don't have that handy at the moment
so I can't describe its size but it is another soft-
cover. Neither is readily available except from a
technical library.

What some amateurs call "The Collins Sideband Book," or
"Single Sideband Principles and Circuits," Pappenfus,
Bruene, and Schoenike, McGraw-Hill Book Company, 1964,
382 pages, has a good bit of HF communications history
in Chapter 1 up to copyright date of the book, more in
following chapters on various early SSB systems.


I have it and it isn't much of a history at all.

He usually follows one of
those references with some sniping at the American Radio Relay League.


There is no denying that the publications output of the
ARRL is very large. They must do that in order to get the
income necessary to perform all their "free" services to
members.


What's it to you?


The ARRL has a virtual monopoly on amateur-
interest publications in the USA...no denying that, either.


That is simply a false statement, Len. It is easily denied if one knows
anything about publications available to the radio amateur.

But, the ARRL is also a political organization,
maintaining both a legal firm and a lobbying organization
in DC on retainer. As a political entity, they come
under the good old American tradition of being a target
for anyone who cares to comment.


....and in the good old American tradition of having it not matter
whether the comments are untruths.

The League is NOT
without fault...except in the minds of its faithful
followers, the disciples of the Church of St. Hiram.


I've had differences of opinion with League policy and League officers
and staffers. What is any of that to you. You aren't a radio amateur
and you aren't an ARRL member.

Having a virtual monopoly on radio-amateur-interest
publications also gives them a psychological power to
mold readers' opinions to those of the League hierarchy.


Good boy, Len. If you start with a false premise, you can always make
your claim turn out the way you want it to.

To deny that is to deny the power of marketing
techniques, of psychological propaganda activities that
go on daily in nearly all human activities.


To deny your statement is to point out that your mind is made up about
the ways things are and that you aren't going to let fact stand in your way.

Nobody markets more than TV and radio. I can't tell you the last time I
drank a soft drink, ate at Applebee's or shopped at Target because of a
radio or TV ad. I've never bought a car based upon a magazine ad nor
bought a suit because of a newspaper ad. Those virtual monopolies
aren't getting their money's worth out of me.


Do you need to review the profile?


Len needs to review the profile.


No. "Profiles" work both ways.


....only if they are factual. Those you wrote were cobbled together and
fashioned after Jim's style. They didn't stick.

Heil and Miccolis have
both been "profiled" in here, not just by me but by
many others.


Many others? Where are they?

It is the Nature of the (newsgroup) Beast.


....and you *are* the newsgroup beast.



Len seldom lets the truth get in the way of one of his monologues.


Tsk, Heil speaks an untruth.


That's simply incorrect, Len.

OPINIONS are not "facts," just opinions.


I didn't write "opinions". I wrote "truth". You seldom let truth get
in the way of one of your monologues.

Miccolis tries to manuever all opinion statements as "facts"
written by those he has problems with...thus garnering the
"accusations" of "untruth" or "error" when some just plain
don't like him.


"Maneuver", Len. Your statement doesn't make sense. Don't you like
Jim? Are the non-factual statements you issue done to show Jim that you
don't like him?

That he often comes across as an arch-
typical "mother superior" (complete with spanking ruler) is
lost on him.


If you could see yourself as others see you, Len...

Prissy, as if sucking on sourballs when
writing up "error" "error" on those disagreeing with him.


I'm sure it seems that way to a guy who makes a great many factual errors.

Heil comes across as a stereotypical WW2 propaganda movie
Waffen SS officer, ordering others around, telling them
what they "should" do (his way, naturally).


You have a rich fantasy life.

What, pray tell, is your view of an individual who is not involved in
any way in amateur radio, telling radio amateurs that regulations should
be changed (ordering others around, telling them what they "should" do
(his way naturally)?

One can
almost see the sneer on his face, the monocle ready to
drop as his face gets more livid with order-barking,
the heels clicking.


Godwin will getcha if you don't watch out! What orders have been given,
Len?


I've noticed the talk of his workshop, but nothing about what comes out
of it.


Why should it? It is for MY enjoyment for myself, not
some "hey-look-at-me-and-what-marvelous-things-I've-done"
self promotion on some website. :-)


That hasn't stopped your frequent self-promotion in this newsgroup.

I've had it for four decades. Those I know have been
in it and we've talked mutual interest stuff about any
project then on-going. Material like that has been
exchanged privately. No need to make it public.


Do you recall the things you've said about Jim's work? I'm not going to
do as you do and turn those words back toward you. You might want to
think about what you typically do.

For sure. SS is coming up fairly soon.


"Waffen?" Jahwhol! [click, click] :-)


You're a juvenile geezer, Len.

Dave K8MN



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Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Sat, Oct 7 2006 11:52 pm

wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
From: on Tues, Oct 3 2006 3:25 pm
wrote:



It appears that Len expects me to reply to his "you have never..."
statements by saying what I have done in non-amateur radio. Old trick,
doesn't work.


It works! :-) Jimmie just hasn't done anything outside.


There you go again, Mr. Anderson. You've told another untruth.


No...Not LENNIE! He CAN'T tell a lie...He's a *PROFESSIONAL*... !
! !

He has never been IN the military.

He has never been IN government.

He has never stated what he does for a living.


"Id est, as in his never saying...but you MUST
call a speculation a LIE?"

--Len Anderson

Your statements don't indicate speculation. You have no information of
the first two. I know for a fact that the third in false because he has
stated to me what he does for a living. I'm aware of at least one other
who knows what he does for a living.


Make it two.

I guess you've been left out of the loop.


Say it isn't so, Dave ! ! ! Lennie...?!?! "Out of the
loop"...?!?!? Impossible!

It hasn't stopped him from trying. He has never become a radio amateur
despite his several decades of self-declared "interest" in amateur radio.


How about that? I became a professional BEFORE anything
else!


I've never found it necessary to so limit myself. I was capable of
being a professional in electronics and a radio amateur as well. I've
have dozens of friends who've managed to do the same.


Lennie's preoccupation with money being noted. No doubt the reason
he married a woman with TWO correspondence degrees....

If he tries a "you have never" and someone refutes it with details, Len
simply clams up.


Ah! "Justification" for that Imposter Robeson...a licensed
amateur extra and a pro-coder!


Did you ever find that web page, Len?


Lennie continues the "imposter" claim despite having been given
detail private and public.

Only further proof of his dishonesty and deceit.

BIG SNIP

But, there's only ONE ENIAC and it is now a museum
piece. Defunct. Good only for show-and-tell.


That pretty wells sums up your current situation, doesn't it?


"Defunct" can sure be applied to a LOT of Lennie's issues.

ANOTHER HUGE SNIP

There is no denying that the publications output of the
ARRL is very large. They must do that in order to get the
income necessary to perform all their "free" services to
members.


What's it to you?


Because there are "mere amateurs" who are making money publishing
in the electronics field whereas Lennie is NOT. That's gotta leave a
huge mark on the little guy's big ego.

The ARRL has a virtual monopoly on amateur-
interest publications in the USA...no denying that, either.


That is simply a false statement, Len. It is easily denied if one knows
anything about publications available to the radio amateur.


CQ Magazine has a far greater offering of texts.

But whoa-be-it to Lennie to actually get one of his anti-ARRL
rants right.....

AND AGAIN...

Heil and Miccolis have
both been "profiled" in here, not just by me but by
many others.


Many others? Where are they?


Lennie's including his may alter-ego's...

Miccolis tries to manuever all opinion statements as "facts"
written by those he has problems with...thus garnering the
"accusations" of "untruth" or "error" when some just plain
don't like him.


"Maneuver", Len. Your statement doesn't make sense. Don't you like
Jim? Are the non-factual statements you issue done to show Jim that you
don't like him?


At least he didn't refer to Jim with a name ending, " -ie",
Dave...Quite a step for him.

That he often comes across as an arch-
typical "mother superior" (complete with spanking ruler) is
lost on him.


If you could see yourself as others see you, Len...


To her credit, his wife probably makes him wash it off outside,
before he can get to a mirror to see what it looks like.

Prissy, as if sucking on sourballs when
writing up "error" "error" on those disagreeing with him.


I'm sure it seems that way to a guy who makes a great many factual errors.

Heil comes across as a stereotypical WW2 propaganda movie
Waffen SS officer, ordering others around, telling them
what they "should" do (his way, naturally).


You have a rich fantasy life.


And ocne again Lennie can't make headway with any rational
comments, so he slides off into Naziland once again...

What, pray tell, is your view of an individual who is not involved in
any way in amateur radio, telling radio amateurs that regulations should
be changed (ordering others around, telling them what they "should" do
(his way naturally)?


I could hear the hammer hitting that nail on the head from here,
Dave.

Why should it? It is for MY enjoyment for myself, not
some "hey-look-at-me-and-what-marvelous-things-I've-done"
self promotion on some website.


That hasn't stopped your frequent self-promotion in this newsgroup.


"Hey! Look at me! I bought a 1970-s era SWL receiver and scanner
at the local ham shop and didn't need a license!" just isn't very
inspiring, now is it, Dave...?!?!

I've had it for four decades. Those I know have been
in it and we've talked mutual interest stuff about any
project then on-going. Material like that has been
exchanged privately. No need to make it public.


Do you recall the things you've said about Jim's work? I'm not going to
do as you do and turn those words back toward you. You might want to
think about what you typically do.


Of course it's OK for Lennie to keep his affairs "private", yet
when you, Jim or I do it, there's some conspiracy to hide something...

How bogus, eh?

For sure. SS is coming up fairly soon.


"Waffen?" Jahwhol! [click, click] :-)


You're a juvenile geezer, Len.


TWO nails, Dave.

73

Steve, K4YZ

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