Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
From: on Thurs, Oct 19 2006 2:46 am

[Jimmie and Davie are interchangeable entities now?]

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Wed, Oct 18 2006 3:06 pm
wrote:
From: on Mon, Oct 16 2006 4:48am
wrote:
From: on Sun, Oct 15 2006 4:17 pm


BECAUSE he has NO proof AT ALL he gets called an IMPOSTER.


Yet Hans Brakob has made it available. Frank
Gilliland has made it available.

So? Who are *you* to demand proof?

A MILITARY VETERAN, Jimmie, something you will NEVER be.

MILITARY VETERANS get to demand proof? Really?

Actually, employers get to, and people that are witness to exaggerated
claims of "hostile actions" get to. Anyone witnessing exaggerated
claims OUGHT to demand proof.

I never saw myself as
superior to other citizens who never donned a military uniform.

It's a lot like Len being a professional radio, and being told that
he'll never be an amateur.

Hans is a veteran, Frank is a veteran, Brian Burke is a
veteran.

I'm a veteran. Dan from W4-land is a veteran. Do we get to demand
proof for your sphincter post? It'd be nice to know where and when the
artillery barrage took place and if your friend Gene can confirm it.

Fair enough. When does Robesin provide documentation of his claims of
participating in seven (7) hostile actions?

When one takes an Oath putting their LIFE on the line in
military service it becomes very serious indeed.

Well, it could become very serious if you ever actually had occasion to
put your life on the line.

Would any of seven (7) hostile actions be such an occasion?

One
helluva lot MORE SERIOUS than having some amateur radio
hobby with imagined self-glory.

...only if you were called upon to actually put your life on the line,
Len. Otherwise, you need to quit wrapping yourself in bunting and
stepping up on that soapbox.

No bunting. By serving (in the military), you are in the que for
whatever comes up. Lots of folks weren't up to it. Jim/N2EY is one
such person.

Would the term "self-glory" come into play in discussing a guy who went
into great detail describing what it was like to undergo an artillery
barrage, except that he had never been involved in such an event?

Prolly no more than a guy that got caught claiming participation in
seven (7) hostile actions.

Would you be inclined to describe such an individual as a sort of
imposter? It is certainly something for you to ponder.

Dave K8MN

It is certainly something for Robesin to ponder, wouldn't you agree?

wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
From: on Thurs, Oct 19 2006 2:46 am

[Jimmie and Davie are interchangeable entities now?]

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Wed, Oct 18 2006 3:06 pm
wrote:
From: on Mon, Oct 16 2006 4:48am
wrote:
From: on Sun, Oct 15 2006 4:17 pm

BECAUSE he has NO proof AT ALL he gets called an IMPOSTER.


Yet Hans Brakob has made it available. Frank
Gilliland has made it available.
So? Who are *you* to demand proof?
A MILITARY VETERAN, Jimmie, something you will NEVER be.
MILITARY VETERANS get to demand proof? Really?

Actually, employers get to, and people that are witness to exaggerated
claims of "hostile actions" get to. Anyone witnessing exaggerated
claims OUGHT to demand proof.

I never saw myself as
superior to other citizens who never donned a military uniform.

It's a lot like Len being a professional radio, and being told that
he'll never be an amateur.

I never knew that Len was a professional radio. I'll make a note of it.

Hans is a veteran, Frank is a veteran, Brian Burke is a
veteran.

I'm a veteran. Dan from W4-land is a veteran. Do we get to demand
proof for your sphincter post? It'd be nice to know where and when the
artillery barrage took place and if your friend Gene can confirm it.

Fair enough. When does Robesin provide documentation of his claims of
participating in seven (7) hostile actions?

I'd say that a good time would be right after Len bares his soul and
admits that he engaged in being an imposter in regard to what it is like
to go through an artillery barrage. I'm guessing that won't happen.

When one takes an Oath putting their LIFE on the line in
military service it becomes very serious indeed.

Well, it could become very serious if you ever actually had occasion to
put your life on the line.

Would any of seven (7) hostile actions be such an occasion?

I'd say it would.

One
helluva lot MORE SERIOUS than having some amateur radio
hobby with imagined self-glory.

...only if you were called upon to actually put your life on the line,
Len. Otherwise, you need to quit wrapping yourself in bunting and
stepping up on that soapbox.

No bunting.

I see bunting. Len is wrapped in it.

By serving (in the military), you are in the que for
whatever comes up.

I didn't like queues when I was in the military. I sure don't have to
queue for anything now.

Lots of folks weren't up to it. Jim/N2EY is one
such person.

That's a pretty bold supposition on your part. What indicates that
someone "wasn't up to it"?

Would the term "self-glory" come into play in discussing a guy who went
into great detail describing what it was like to undergo an artillery
barrage, except that he had never been involved in such an event?

Prolly no more than a guy that got caught claiming participation in
seven (7) hostile actions.

I've seen no detailed description on Steve's part. Len's description
was quite detailed, right down to sphincter.

Would you be inclined to describe such an individual as a sort of
imposter? It is certainly something for you to ponder.

It is certainly something for Robesin to ponder, wouldn't you agree?

Would I?

Dave K8MN

On 20 Oct 2006 15:01:12 -0700, wrote:


wrote:
From: on Thurs, Oct 19 2006 2:46 am

[Jimmie and Davie are interchangeable entities now?]

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Wed, Oct 18 2006 3:06 pm
wrote:
From: on Mon, Oct 16 2006 4:48am
wrote:
From: on Sun, Oct 15 2006 4:17 pm

Opinions are not sacred, Len.

Tell it to Robesin. If you hold the wrong opinion, you are a" LIAR!"
and a child molestor sheep raping pedophile

Yes they are, Jimmie. Amateur extra morsemen hold the code
test to be SACRED forever and ever. All those against it
tell "falsehoods" because they are against it. :-)

LIAR!

Not even yours. The mere fact that
someone holds an opinion does prevent it from being a falsehood.

And so it starts...

Actually, it started long, long ago in a DX location far, far away...

Tsk, tsk, tsk, you are arguing against yourself there!

So, I state an OPINION that you don't like and it is a
"falsehood." But, because it IS an opinion, PREVENTS it
from being a "falsehood." :-)

Exactly! Any you're a LIAR so don't forget it.

Also, you are not clear about when you are providing an opinion and
when you are providing an alleged fact. You do not usually qualify your
statements with phrases like 'I think' or 'I feel' or 'IMHO'. Instead,
you state your opinions as if they are unquestionably true facts. They
aren't.

WTF are you babbling about?

So now you're using CW abbreviations...

Did you put on the Mother Superior habit already, knuckle-
spank ruler at the ready to correct "improper grammar?"

I saw Dave make a typo last weekend, but I didn't draw attention to it.

Of course, WE don't know EXACTLY WHAT this "K4YZ" call
sign person ever did...except for his bluffing and
bragging in here. Not ONE SINGLE item to document
that.

Yet you call him "an imposter" without any proof.

PRECISELY! [it took a while for that to sink in your brain,
but it did!]

BECAUSE he has NO proof AT ALL he gets called an IMPOSTER.

When someone draws attention to themselves with wild claims, it usually
follows that someone else will ask for documentation.

and when he fails to produce

Yet Hans Brakob has made it available. Frank
Gilliland has made it available.

So? Who are *you* to demand proof?

A MILITARY VETERAN, Jimmie, something you will NEVER be.
Hans is a veteran, Frank is a veteran, Brian Burke is a
veteran.

Stolen Valor. It gives anyone the right to ask for documentation when
preposterous claims have been made. Robesin

and another military Veteran here, one that posted proof that meets
steve stanard but was rejuected by steve

When one takes an Oath putting their LIFE on the line in
military service it becomes very serious indeed. One
helluva lot MORE SERIOUS than having some amateur radio
hobby with imagined self-glory.

That should be a given, but apparently it isn't.

indeed

Is it on what *you* did or on what the 700-man military unit that you
were assigned to did?

Both. You can read it via:

http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf

About 6 MB file size, takes 19 minutes download on dial-up.
Lots of photos in there in case you have trouble with the
technological words.

Its about something YOU can NEVER have, Jimmie. You never
volunteered for military service...even when you had the
chance. You are NO JUDGE over any military unit activities.

Other ways... other ways...

As ever to you, ByteBrothers famous phrase invoked.



Jim want's to think that his other ways are a substitute for military
service, kind of like Clinton's "AmericCorps..." Jim was just ahead
of his time in avoiding military service.
http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Wed, Oct 18 2006 3:06 pm

wrote:
From: on Mon, Oct 16 2006 4:48am
wrote:
From: on Sun, Oct 15 2006 4:17 pm

Both CNN and Fox News carried accounts of cellular phone
service being disrupted. I'll bet some of those radio hams end up
handling communication in the aftermath of the earthquake.

Have CNN or Fox News carried acounts of hams "up handling
communication" in the aftermath of the [Hawaii] earthquake?
How about ABC, CBS, or NBC? Any major newspapers?

The Hawaii 6.7-Richter earthquake is OVER, senior. No
loss of life. Property damage, some. Utility damage,
some. The Governor of Hawaii has been quoted (several
times) as saying "Hawaii is open for business!" :-)

Is amateur radio about business? Sorry, it can't be.
FCC defines USA amateur radio as being done WITHOUT
pecuniary interest. No money for services rendered.
That doesn't sound like any "business" in the normal sense.


From the ARRL today:
quote

==HAWAIIAN HAMS RESPOND AS EARTHQUAKES STRIKE "BIG ISLAND"

Amateur Radio volunteers scrambled to provide emergency communication and
assist with relief efforts after earthquakes October 15 on the "Big Island"
of Hawaii. The initial jolt of the so-called "Kona Earthquake" just after 7
AM local time rousted many residents from sleep; another followed soon
after. Widespread power outages as well as structural and highway damage
resulted throughout the Hawaiian Islands, although a feared tsunami never
developed and no deaths were reported.

"ARES and RACES operators responded to Hawaii State and Oahu Civil Defense
Emergency Operation Centers," reports Hawaii State RACES Coordinator and
ARRL State Civil Defense (SCD) Emergency Coordinator Ron Hashiro, AH6RH.
Right after Oahu stopped shaking, Hashiro put out a call on the Honolulu
146.88 MHz repeater seeking reports.

"Other stations confirmed the violent shaking," he said. Hashiro started
emergency operations on the Honolulu repeater, then proceeded to the
inter-island 147.06 MHz repeater system and repeated the sequence. Hashiro,
Robin Liu, AH6CP, and Mitch Pinkerton, KH6MP, arrived at the State Emergency
Operations Center (EOC) in short order, and RACES operations from KH6HPZ
commenced within a half hour of the first earthquake. After checking into HF
and VHF nets, ARRL Pacific Section Emergency Coordinator Kevin Bogan, AH6QO,
responded to the SCD EOC.

Bogan said the primary focus was on the Big Island, where most damage
occurred because the epicenter was so close. "Although buildings on Oahu
suffered only minor structural damage, the biggest problem was the power
outage due to generators for the island powering down as a safety
precaution," he said. "Within minutes of the first earthquake, telephone
calls on landline and many cell phone carriers were difficult due to
congestion."

Hashiro said operators at the EOC rotated among the HF and VHF operating
positions, running messages with the EOC operations desk and checking with
staff on their various needs and concerns. The Hawaii Emergency Net on 7088
kHz provided the main HF link in the earthquakes' aftermath. Communication
around the Big Island was handled on 7095 kHz. Where Internet remained
available, radio amateurs were able to take advantage of Voice over Internet
Protocol (VoIP) modes such as EchoLink and IRLP.

At Oahu Civil Defense Agency, RACES Coordinator Ray Moody, AH6LT, responded,
while Adrian Ditucci, KH7GK, handled net control service duties from his
home a few miles away, operating on battery power.

Other Amateur Radio emergency communication volunteers did "the heavy
lifting in the field," Hashiro said. "The key to their success was that they
had varying degrees of portable and mobile capabilities with emergency power
-- using VHF and HF," he said. "They were able to drive right to the scene
and pass along assessments, status reports and messages through us, right
into State CD operations."

"For example, Steve, WH6N, passed formal traffic on the condition of a
hospital and the closure of a neighboring highway due to a landslide,"
Hashiro said. "AH6RR and KH7MS passed information on the condition and
evacuation of Kona Community Hospital, while WH6WI updated us on the
progress and availability of a 1000-person American Red Cross Shelter at the
old Kailua-Kona airport." As a precaution, officials evacuated several
hospitals in Hawaii until they could check the safety of the structures.

Dozens of tremors followed the initial quake, on the west side of the Island
of Hawaii, which measured at 6.7 on the Richter scale. It was the first
major earthquake in Hawaii in 20 years. A second quake measured 6.0, Bogan
said, and there were many aftershocks. Hashiro says State CD RACES/ARES
operations wrapped up at 5:20 PM, while Oahu RACES operations from KH6OCD
ended at 10:55 PM. He reports upward of a dozen stations on the Big Island
provided HF and VHF communication with SCD, while another seven radio
amateurs were active on the island of Maui.

The Salvation Army Team Emergency Radio Network (SATERN) activated for a
short time Sunday afternoon on 14.265 MHz to assist with emergency
communication to handle health-and-welfare inquiries and traffic.

Hashiro says that unlike some other areas of the US, radio amateurs in
Hawaii stress and believe in joint operation -- a collaboration of ARES,
RACES, SKYWARN, HealthComm, the American Red Cross, Volunteers Organizations
Active in Disaster (VOAD), and SATERN.

"We become one operation, one team to our emergency management partners," he
said. "We help each other out and work and train together. That's the only
way to operate; there's simply not enough equipped, capable and available
operators to go around. Isolated in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, there's
not a lot of missteps and mistakes we can afford."
unquote

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
From: on Thurs, Oct 19 2006 2:46 am

[Jimmie and Davie are interchangeable entities now?]

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Wed, Oct 18 2006 3:06 pm
wrote:
From: on Mon, Oct 16 2006 4:48am
wrote:
From: on Sun, Oct 15 2006 4:17 pm

BECAUSE he has NO proof AT ALL he gets called an IMPOSTER.

Yet Hans Brakob has made it available. Frank
Gilliland has made it available.
So? Who are *you* to demand proof?
A MILITARY VETERAN, Jimmie, something you will NEVER be.
MILITARY VETERANS get to demand proof? Really?

Actually, employers get to, and people that are witness to exaggerated
claims of "hostile actions" get to. Anyone witnessing exaggerated
claims OUGHT to demand proof.

I never saw myself as
superior to other citizens who never donned a military uniform.

It's a lot like Len being a professional radio, and being told that
he'll never be an amateur.

I never knew that Len was a professional radio. I'll make a note of it.

Op is the operative word. Why would anyone as smug as you make a note
of anything?

Hans is a veteran, Frank is a veteran, Brian Burke is a
veteran.

I'm a veteran. Dan from W4-land is a veteran. Do we get to demand
proof for your sphincter post? It'd be nice to know where and when the
artillery barrage took place and if your friend Gene can confirm it.

Fair enough. When does Robesin provide documentation of his claims of
participating in seven (7) hostile actions?

I'd say that a good time would be right after Len bares his soul and
admits that he engaged in being an imposter in regard to what it is like
to go through an artillery barrage. I'm guessing that won't happen.

Why after?

When one takes an Oath putting their LIFE on the line in
military service it becomes very serious indeed.

Well, it could become very serious if you ever actually had occasion to
put your life on the line.

Would any of seven (7) hostile actions be such an occasion?

I'd say it would.

If it actually happened.

One
helluva lot MORE SERIOUS than having some amateur radio
hobby with imagined self-glory.

...only if you were called upon to actually put your life on the line,
Len. Otherwise, you need to quit wrapping yourself in bunting and
stepping up on that soapbox.

No bunting.

I see bunting. Len is wrapped in it.

By serving (in the military), you are in the que for
whatever comes up.

I didn't like queues when I was in the military. I sure don't have to
queue for anything now.

We're aware of your dislike for military service, and you're certainly
not in the que any longer. My inactive service committment ends this
year.

Lots of folks weren't up to it. Jim/N2EY is one
such person.

That's a pretty bold supposition on your part. What indicates that
someone "wasn't up to it"?

You'll have to ask Jim what the problem was. He hasn't been
forthcoming with that information.

Would the term "self-glory" come into play in discussing a guy who went
into great detail describing what it was like to undergo an artillery
barrage, except that he had never been involved in such an event?

Prolly no more than a guy that got caught claiming participation in
seven (7) hostile actions.

I've seen no detailed description on Steve's part. Len's description
was quite detailed, right down to sphincter.

Everyone's got one. They all stink.

Would you be inclined to describe such an individual as a sort of
imposter? It is certainly something for you to ponder.

It is certainly something for Robesin to ponder, wouldn't you agree?

Would I?

Dave K8MN

No, maybe you wouldn't. Len says something and he's a liar. Robesin
says the same thing seven different ways and he's good to go. It's not
hard to figure you out.

wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
From: on Thurs, Oct 19 2006 2:46 am

[Jimmie and Davie are interchangeable entities now?]

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Wed, Oct 18 2006 3:06 pm
wrote:
From: on Mon, Oct 16 2006 4:48am
wrote:
From: on Sun, Oct 15 2006 4:17 pm
BECAUSE he has NO proof AT ALL he gets called an IMPOSTER.

Yet Hans Brakob has made it available. Frank
Gilliland has made it available.
So? Who are *you* to demand proof?
A MILITARY VETERAN, Jimmie, something you will NEVER be.
MILITARY VETERANS get to demand proof? Really?
Actually, employers get to, and people that are witness to exaggerated
claims of "hostile actions" get to. Anyone witnessing exaggerated
claims OUGHT to demand proof.

I never saw myself as
superior to other citizens who never donned a military uniform.
It's a lot like Len being a professional radio, and being told that
he'll never be an amateur.
I never knew that Len was a professional radio. I'll make a note of it.

Op is the operative word.

That word wasn't included.

Why would anyone as smug as you make a note
of anything?

I'd make a note, as I wrote, because I never knew that Len was a
professional radio. Should the term be "PROFESSIONAL radio"?

Hans is a veteran, Frank is a veteran, Brian Burke is a
veteran.
I'm a veteran. Dan from W4-land is a veteran. Do we get to demand
proof for your sphincter post? It'd be nice to know where and when the
artillery barrage took place and if your friend Gene can confirm it.

Fair enough. When does Robesin provide documentation of his claims of
participating in seven (7) hostile actions?

I'd say that a good time would be right after Len bares his soul and
admits that he engaged in being an imposter in regard to what it is like
to go through an artillery barrage. I'm guessing that won't happen.

Why after?

Why do you think it might be? It might be that the individual making
countless statements of "IMPOSTER" regarding the military service of
another, is himself guilty of being an imposter. What do you think
about Len's description of what it is like to go through an artillery
barrage?

When one takes an Oath putting their LIFE on the line in
military service it becomes very serious indeed.

Well, it could become very serious if you ever actually had occasion to
put your life on the line.

Would any of seven (7) hostile actions be such an occasion?

I'd say it would.

If it actually happened.

Ok. Now what?

One
helluva lot MORE SERIOUS than having some amateur radio
hobby with imagined self-glory.

...only if you were called upon to actually put your life on the line,
Len. Otherwise, you need to quit wrapping yourself in bunting and
stepping up on that soapbox.

No bunting.

I see bunting. Len is wrapped in it.

By serving (in the military), you are in the que for
whatever comes up.

I didn't like queues when I was in the military. I sure don't have to
queue for anything now.

We're aware of your dislike for military service, and you're certainly
not in the que any longer.

If you're aware of my dislike, kindly fill me in on it. How did my
dislike manifest itself? After all, unlike many, I got the job I
wanted. I was able to skip technical school.

My inactive service committment ends this
year.

I don't know what to make of your statement. What am I supposed to
feel, think or write?

I noticed that you made a spelling error. I've decided not to comment
on it. Turn about is fair play.

Lots of folks weren't up to it. Jim/N2EY is one
such person.

That's a pretty bold supposition on your part. What indicates that
someone "wasn't up to it"?

You'll have to ask Jim what the problem was.

Is that what you did? You asked him and he told you that he wasn't up
to it?

He hasn't been
forthcoming with that information.

That didn't seem to stop you from ascribing motivation or lack thereof.

Would the term "self-glory" come into play in discussing a guy who went
into great detail describing what it was like to undergo an artillery
barrage, except that he had never been involved in such an event?

Prolly no more than a guy that got caught claiming participation in
seven (7) hostile actions.

I've seen no detailed description on Steve's part. Len's description
was quite detailed, right down to sphincter.

Everyone's got one. They all stink.

I've not thought to check.


Would you be inclined to describe such an individual as a sort of
imposter? It is certainly something for you to ponder.
It is certainly something for Robesin to ponder, wouldn't you agree?

Would I?

No, maybe you wouldn't.

Then there's the chance that I would.

Len says something and he's a liar.

I think you may be on to something. Do you think that artillery barrage
took place in peacetime Japan? Could it have taken place near Greenlee
Industries? Might it have been in Len's neighborhood when Len and
others in his area were stirred up over zoning changes?

Robesin
says the same thing seven different ways and he's good to go.

What did Steve say about his actions? Did he ever describe an action
which you know did not take place? Do you see a difference? I see an
old codger with egg on his face, calling another military veteran an
IMPOSTER without a shred of evidence. I did find a web site which lists
Steve by full name and USMC rank. Did you find it?

It's not
hard to figure you out.

It is if you take the time to do it right.

Dave K8MN

Arf! Arf! wrote:
Len says something and he's a liar.

I think you may be on to something. Do you think that artillery barrage
took place in peacetime Japan? Could it have taken place near Greenlee
Industries? Might it have been in Len's neighborhood when Len and
others in his area were stirred up over zoning changes?

Robesin
says the same thing seven different ways and he's good to go.

What did Steve say about his actions? Did he ever describe an action
which you know did not take place?
yes you have or rather you called a peiece of equipment that was part
of your job a col

Do you see a difference? I see an
old codger with egg on his face, calling another military veteran an
IMPOSTER without a shred of evidence.
it is his lack of evidence that is at issue steve
I did find a web site which lists
Steve by full name and USMC rank. Did you find it?

yes I did but it was your own creation Robeson


As I've noted in the past, Len has many talents, flatus being his ultimate
trademark.
alwaays with the body funtions steve you are truly disguting

Len says something and he's a liar.

I think you may be on to something. Do you think that artillery barrage
took place in peacetime Japan? Could it have taken place near Greenlee
Industries? Might it have been in Len's neighborhood when Len and
others in his area were stirred up over zoning changes?

Robesin
says the same thing seven different ways and he's good to go.

What did Steve say about his actions? Did he ever describe an action
which you know did not take place? Do you see a difference? I see an
old codger with egg on his face, calling another military veteran an
IMPOSTER without a shred of evidence. I did find a web site which lists
Steve by full name and USMC rank. Did you find it?

It's not
hard to figure you out.

It is if you take the time to do it right.

Dave K8MN


Please forgive Len, Dave. He is on a "mission" and obviously considers
himself to be humorist with an ability to color the written word. His facts
are oft askew, but he is entertaining from time to time.
If Len blends facts with fiction, so what? He is an entertainer seeking
self-gratification by needling those whom he considers to be the dregs of
his inferiors on Usenet. Nothing more, nothing less.
Len is, by and large, a non-entity, one best ignored.
As I've noted in the past, Len has many talents, flatus being his ultimate
trademark.

wrote:
From: on Thurs, Oct 19 2006 2:46 am

[Jimmie and Davie are interchangeable entities now?]

Len:

Who are "Jimmie" and "Davie"? There is someone who posts here as
"Jimmie D" - do you mean him?

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Wed, Oct 18 2006 3:06 pm
wrote:
From: on Mon, Oct 16 2006 4:48am
wrote:
From: on Sun, Oct 15 2006 4:17 pm

Opinions are not sacred, Len.

Yes they are, Jimmie.

Who is "Jimmie", Len?

The fact remains that opinions are not sacred. I know that you want
*your* opinions treated as absolutely sacrosanct, and that anyone who
challenges your statements has broken a taboo (to you, anyway).

Post your opinions here and they will be challenged, Len. That's the
way it works.

Amateur extra morsemen hold the code
test to be SACRED forever and ever.

What are "amateur extra morsemen", Len?

Some people think a Morse Code test is a good idea. Others do not.
Neither opinion is sacred.

All those against it tell "falsehoods" because they are against it. :-)

That's a falsehood, Len.

Not even yours.

I know that you want *your* opinions treated as absolutely sacrosanct,
and that anyone who challenges your statements has broken a taboo (to
you, anyway). But they are not sacred.

The mere fact that
someone holds an opinion does prevent it from being a falsehood.

Typo alert: The above should read:

The mere fact that someone holds an opinion does *not* prevent it from
being a falsehood.

IOW, an opinion can be false. You can hold the opinion that the moon of
made of green cheese, but in fact it is not, and that opinion is false.

Tsk, tsk, tsk, you are arguing against yourself there!

(nonsensical diatribe over a typo snipped).

Also, you are not clear about when you are providing an opinion and
when you are providing an alleged fact. You do not usually qualify your
statements with phrases like 'I think' or 'I feel' or 'IMHO'. Instead,
you state your opinions as if they are unquestionably true facts. They
aren't.

WTF are you babbling about?

You state your opinions as if they are unquestionable facts. But they
are just opinions, and are often unsupported by facts.

Of course, WE don't know EXACTLY WHAT this "K4YZ" call
sign person ever did...except for his bluffing and
bragging in here. Not ONE SINGLE item to document
that.

Yet you call him "an imposter" without any proof.

PRECISELY! [it took a while for that to sink in your brain,
but it did!]

BECAUSE he has NO proof AT ALL he gets called an IMPOSTER.

That's another falsehood, Len.

You call K4YZ an imposter because he has not provided you with the
proof you seek and dares to disagree with you. It's pretty clear that
if he agreed with you on some things, you would tout him as a hero.

You've been asked to provide more details about your experience with a
particular artillery barrage you described. But you have not done so.
Does that make you an imposter, Len?
Or just someone who chooses not to provide proof - same as K4YZ?

Yet Hans Brakob

K0HB

has made it available. Frank
Gilliland has made it available.

So? Who are *you* to demand proof?

A MILITARY VETERAN, Jimmie, something you will NEVER be.

Who is "Jimmie", Len? How do you know for sure whether this "Jimmie"
person was in the military or not?

Hans is a veteran, Frank is a veteran, Brian Burke is a
veteran.

How do you know for sure who is and is not a veteran? Is Mark Morgan a
veteran? Or is he an imposter? (Please note that I am not calling
anyone an imposter - I'm just asking how Len can be so sure).

When one takes an Oath putting their LIFE on the line in
military service it becomes very serious indeed. One
helluva lot MORE SERIOUS than having some amateur radio
hobby with imagined self-glory.

Is it on what *you* did or on what the 700-man military unit that you
were assigned to did?

Both. You can read it via:

http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf

About 6 MB file size, takes 19 minutes download on dial-up.

Are you still stuck with dialup, Len?

Lots of photos in there in case you have trouble with the
technological words.

I don't have trouble with technological words, Len.

Its about something YOU can NEVER have, Jimmie.

Who is this "Jimmie" person, Len? Why do you keep addressing him/her?

You never
volunteered for military service...even when you had the
chance.

How do you know for sure?

You are NO JUDGE over any military unit activities.

Why not?

You seem to be saying that if a person has not been in the military,
they cannot judge anything about the military. Yet many of our
country's lawmakers do just that.

You have never been a radio amateur, yet you pronounce all sorts of
judgements on amateur radio.

As ever to you, ByteBrothers famous phrase invoked.

Which phrase is that, Len? Don't you have the guts to spell it out?

btw, Len, you've made it easy to tell when you know you have lost the
argument.

Whenever you start wrapping yourself in the bunting of having served in
the military, rather than actually debating the issue at hand, it's a
sure and clear sign that you know you've lost the argument. Just a
variation of the behavior in your profile.