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January 17th 07, 01:51 AM
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One way to promote learning of code ...
an_old_friend wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: From: (Michael Black) on Sun, Jan 14 2007 Most of the ready-built "CW" or SSB HF transceivers in use today do that sort of keying. Major reason is keeping the PA at the same bias for all modes selected; makes for a simpler mode selection control. I believe you've made another of your factual errors, Leonard. Collins used to use this method in the KWM-2A. Unfortunately, the company used a 1375 Hz tone--too high for anything but casual CW use. Dave K8MN "Casual CW use???" As Colonel Jessup would say, "Is there any other kind?" today certainly CW as once used seriously but harly in what 50 years Yeh. Morse Code is like a way-back time machine transporter for some of these guys. |
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January 17th 07, 04:28 AM
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One way to promote learning of code ...
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an_old_friend wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: From: (Michael Black) on Sun, Jan 14 2007 Most of the ready-built "CW" or SSB HF transceivers in use today do that sort of keying. Major reason is keeping the PA at the same bias for all modes selected; makes for a simpler mode selection control. I believe you've made another of your factual errors, Leonard. Collins used to use this method in the KWM-2A. Unfortunately, the company used a 1375 Hz tone--too high for anything but casual CW use. "Casual CW use???" Yeah, casual CW use. There are some folks who use CW occasionally. The KWM-2A's scheme might be okay for some of those who are casual CW ops. The KWM-2A offered no RIT and no CW filters. Go figure. As Colonel Jessup would say, "Is there any other kind?" Yes, Colonel Jessup, there is another kind. today certainly CW as once used seriously but harly in what 50 years I've never operated CW from a Harley. Yeh. Morse Code is like a way-back time machine transporter for some of these guys. Are the three of you trying some sort of "Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest" routine? Dave K8MN |
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January 17th 07, 11:25 PM
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One way to promote learning of code ...
Dave Heil wrote: wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: From: (Michael Black) on Sun, Jan 14 2007 Most of the ready-built "CW" or SSB HF transceivers in use today do that sort of keying. Major reason is keeping the PA at the same bias for all modes selected; makes for a simpler mode selection control. I believe you've made another of your factual errors, Leonard. Collins used to use this method in the KWM-2A. Unfortunately, the company used a 1375 Hz tone--too high for anything but casual CW use. "Casual CW use???" Yeah, casual CW use. There are some folks who use CW occasionally. There just might be. But the frequency that CW is used is not the same thing as "casual use." The KWM-2A's scheme might be okay for some of those who are casual CW ops. The KWM-2A offered no RIT and no CW filters. Go figure. Good thing the OT's have never drooled over a KWM2. As Colonel Jessup would say, "Is there any other kind?" Yes, Colonel Jessup, there is another kind. Its all hobby use. today certainly CW as once used seriously but harly in what 50 years I've never operated CW from a Harley. Is there an ARRL special interest group for those with your talents, a certificate suitable for framing? Yeh. Morse Code is like a way-back time machine transporter for some of these guys. Are the three of you trying some sort of "Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest" routine? Dave K8MN There is only one of me. |
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January 18th 07, 12:42 AM
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One way to promote learning of code ...
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Dave Heil wrote: wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: From: (Michael Black) on Sun, Jan 14 2007 Most of the ready-built "CW" or SSB HF transceivers in use today do that sort of keying. Major reason is keeping the PA at the same bias for all modes selected; makes for a simpler mode selection control. I believe you've made another of your factual errors, Leonard. Collins used to use this method in the KWM-2A. Unfortunately, the company used a 1375 Hz tone--too high for anything but casual CW use. "Casual CW use???" Yeah, casual CW use. There are some folks who use CW occasionally. There just might be. But the frequency that CW is used is not the same thing as "casual use." Len didn't know what the term meant. I defined it for him. Now you'd like to tell me what I meant. The KWM-2A's scheme might be okay for some of those who are casual CW ops. The KWM-2A offered no RIT and no CW filters. Go figure. Good thing the OT's have never drooled over a KWM2. Lots of folks wanted a KWM-2A. It was a good SSB rig. I know of no individual who bought one for primary use on CW. As Colonel Jessup would say, "Is there any other kind?" Yes, Colonel Jessup, there is another kind. Its all hobby use. I think you'd better do your reading. Not all CW operation is for hobby use, hot-ham-and-cheese. today certainly CW as once used seriously but harly in what 50 years I've never operated CW from a Harley. Is there an ARRL special interest group for those with your talents, a certificate suitable for framing? There are all kinds of special interest groups and all sorts of certificates and plaques. Some come from the ARRL. Yeh. Morse Code is like a way-back time machine transporter for some of these guys. Are the three of you trying some sort of "Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest" routine? There is only one of me. Look up the page and note that all three of you have made your comments. Now you all have rank, title and a certain notorious status. Dave K8MN |
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January 18th 07, 01:08 AM
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One way to promote learning of code ...
Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: From: (Michael Black) on Sun, Jan 14 2007 Most of the ready-built "CW" or SSB HF transceivers in use today do that sort of keying. Major reason is keeping the PA at the same bias for all modes selected; makes for a simpler mode selection control. I believe you've made another of your factual errors, Leonard. Collins used to use this method in the KWM-2A. Unfortunately, the company used a 1375 Hz tone--too high for anything but casual CW use. "Casual CW use???" Yeah, casual CW use. There are some folks who use CW occasionally. There just might be. But the frequency that CW is used is not the same thing as "casual use." Len didn't know what the term meant. I defined it for him. Now you'd like to tell me what I meant. You have defined nothing. The KWM-2A's scheme might be okay for some of those who are casual CW ops. The KWM-2A offered no RIT and no CW filters. Go figure. Good thing the OT's have never drooled over a KWM2. Lots of folks wanted a KWM-2A. It was a good SSB rig. I know of no individual who bought one for primary use on CW. Who would have thought that SSB would be that popular? As Colonel Jessup would say, "Is there any other kind?" Yes, Colonel Jessup, there is another kind. Its all hobby use. I think you'd better do your reading. Not all CW operation is for hobby use, hot-ham-and-cheese. Sorry Dave, Amateur Use IS Hobby Use. today certainly CW as once used seriously but harly in what 50 years I've never operated CW from a Harley. Is there an ARRL special interest group for those with your talents, a certificate suitable for framing? There are all kinds of special interest groups and all sorts of certificates and plaques. Some come from the ARRL. Congrats on membership in a niche club. Yeh. Morse Code is like a way-back time machine transporter for some of these guys. Are the three of you trying some sort of "Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest" routine? There is only one of me. Look up the page and note that all three of you have made your comments. I see you in the attribute history. Now you all have rank, title and a certain notorious status. Dave K8MN I am responsible for my comments. You are responsible for yours. |
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January 18th 07, 04:21 AM
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One way to promote learning of code ...
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Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: From: (Michael Black) on Sun, Jan 14 2007 Most of the ready-built "CW" or SSB HF transceivers in use today do that sort of keying. Major reason is keeping the PA at the same bias for all modes selected; makes for a simpler mode selection control. I believe you've made another of your factual errors, Leonard. Collins used to use this method in the KWM-2A. Unfortunately, the company used a 1375 Hz tone--too high for anything but casual CW use. "Casual CW use???" Yeah, casual CW use. There are some folks who use CW occasionally. There just might be. But the frequency that CW is used is not the same thing as "casual use." Len didn't know what the term meant. I defined it for him. Now you'd like to tell me what I meant. You have defined nothing. Oh, I defined it. You have understood nothing. The KWM-2A's scheme might be okay for some of those who are casual CW ops. The KWM-2A offered no RIT and no CW filters. Go figure. Good thing the OT's have never drooled over a KWM2. Lots of folks wanted a KWM-2A. It was a good SSB rig. I know of no individual who bought one for primary use on CW. Who would have thought that SSB would be that popular? As Colonel Jessup would say, "Is there any other kind?" Yes, Colonel Jessup, there is another kind. Its all hobby use. I think you'd better do your reading. Not all CW operation is for hobby use, hot-ham-and-cheese. Sorry Dave, Amateur Use IS Hobby Use. Will this be one of those things where, in several months, you'll state that I wrote the above? See Len's statement above about the transceivers manufactured. See if you can find where he says anything about "amateur use". Not all CW operation is done for hobby use. today certainly CW as once used seriously but harly in what 50 years I've never operated CW from a Harley. Is there an ARRL special interest group for those with your talents, a certificate suitable for framing? There are all kinds of special interest groups and all sorts of certificates and plaques. Some come from the ARRL. Congrats on membership in a niche club. I've never been one to limit myself to a niche, hot-ham-and-cheese. I operate contests; I chase DX, I enjoy a good ragchew; I handle traffic; I use 160 meters. I use 6 & 2m and 70cm. I use SSB, CW, AM, FM and several digital modes. Yeh. Morse Code is like a way-back time machine transporter for some of these guys. Are the three of you trying some sort of "Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest" routine? There is only one of me. Look up the page and note that all three of you have made your comments. I see you in the attribute history. You can be "Dumber". Now you all have rank, title and a certain notorious status. I am responsible for my comments. You are responsible for yours. I'm comfortable with that. Dave K8MN |
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