This came from another radio group. They are doing a survey to find
out why some people do not like the ARRL. I don't like it because it
costs to much. If it were $10 a year I might consider joining.
Louis

Subj: [REPEATER] Off List: ARRL
Date: 12/11/2003 5:43:47 AM Pacific Standard Time
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Hi all,

This is directed only to those who are NOT currently ARRL members. I
have
agreed to help compile a survey which seeks answers for these two
questions:

1: If you are not a member of the ARRL, why not?

2: If you were a member of the ARRL and quit, why?

Please respond by December 18th. * Please answer only OFF list to
in order keep the clutter on the remailer down.

Thank-you for assisting in this survey.

Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF

Louis C. LeVine wrote:
This came from another radio group. They are doing a survey to find
out why some people do not like the ARRL. I don't like it because it
costs to much. If it were $10 a year I might consider joining.
Louis

I do like the ARRL. Do I agree with everything they do? Nope. I don't
agree with everything everyone does.

Expensive? A bit, but only for those that think they are just taking out
a magazine subscription.

Love their website, I've mined enough out of that to justify the
membership dues.

And the alternitive is?

- Mike KB3EIA -

"Mike Coslo" wrote

:
: And the alternitive is?
:

DARC works good for us.

73/88 BGO
--
"All persons, living or dead, are purely coincidental, and should not be
construed."

In article , hamop_62
@hotmail.com says...
This came from another radio group. They are doing a survey to find
out why some people do not like the ARRL. I don't like it because it
costs to much. If it were $10 a year I might consider joining.
Louis


"snip"

Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF




I *am* a member of ARRL, but do find the membership a little
steep... I'd go $25,, but will think long and hard about renewing at
$40.

I think a lot of the long gray vanity call lists of DX and contest
results should be moved out of QST and onto some sub menu web page where
the three people who give a damn could look them up. QST is a pretty
good rag; it can still be improved.

I object to ARRL's position that we should not be discussing sex,
politics or religion on the bands...what else is left worth talking
about? BUT I wish ARRL or *someone* could act effectively to make
these discussions a bit more civil.

I don't think ARRL is doing enough of the "right stuff" to attract
newcomers, particularly youngsters, to the hobby. Often the emphasis is
too much on technolgy and equipment and not enough on the social
exploration that's possible with our radios.

On positive side I think ARRL is still doing a pretty decent job
representing our interests to the Beltway Bandits.


73 KC2LVQ

Mike Coslo wrote:
And the alternitive is?

- Mike KB3EIA -

N8WWM's favorite.

http://www.rara.org/

"William Mutch" wrote

I think a lot of the long gray vanity call lists of DX and contest
results should be moved out of QST and onto some sub menu web page where
the three people who give a damn could look them up.

You must have been distracted by a passing bimbo or something, but DXCC
listings were removed from QST several years ago and moved to the DXCC
Annual Report which goes only to DXCC participants.

The contest result listings similarly have been removed from QST and now can
be accessed on the web.


I object to ARRL's position that we should not be discussing sex,
politics or religion on the bands...what else is left worth talking
about? BUT I wish ARRL or *someone* could act effectively to make
these discussions a bit more civil.

ARRL makes no regulations whatsoever. You can talk about what ever you deem
proper, and only Riley Hollingsworth will challenge you if he thinks you're
over the line.

73, de Hans, K0HB

And the alternitive is?

N8WWM's favorite:

http://www.rara.org/

Must be a part of the "Great Lakes Chapter" serving Michigan, Ohio and surrounding states,
with their grandmaster WA8PUD!!! LOL!!

Radioman wrote:
And the alternitive is?

N8WWM's favorite:

http://www.rara.org/

Must be a part of the "Great Lakes Chapter" serving Michigan, Ohio and
surrounding states, with their grandmaster WA8PUD!!! LOL!!

Hehe, charter member!?!

http://tinyurl.com/yu6l

William Mutch wrote:

In article , hamop_62
@hotmail.com says...
This came from another radio group. They are doing a survey to find
out why some people do not like the ARRL. I don't like it because it
costs to much. If it were $10 a year I might consider joining.
Louis


"snip"

Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF




I *am* a member of ARRL, but do find the membership a little
steep... I'd go $25,, but will think long and hard about renewing at
$40.

I think a lot of the long gray vanity call lists of DX and contest
results should be moved out of QST and onto some sub menu web page where
the three people who give a damn could look them up. QST is a pretty
good rag; it can still be improved.

For a member, you don't pay much attention. It has been over a year
since the contest results moved to the web. The Section News in the
back of the mag was also moved. I gave a damn about them. I was kind
of hoping the stuff you find interesting would be moved to the web.

I object to ARRL's position that we should not be discussing sex,
politics or religion on the bands...what else is left worth talking
about?

You can't think of a single thing outside of politics, sex or religion?

BUT I wish ARRL or *someone* could act effectively to make
these discussions a bit more civil.

Why would the ARRL even try to do so? The League has no enforcement
powers.

I don't think ARRL is doing enough of the "right stuff" to attract
newcomers, particularly youngsters, to the hobby.

The ARRL is you. What have you done to attract newcomers?

Often the emphasis is
too much on technolgy and equipment and not enough on the social
exploration that's possible with our radios.

Not in QST it isn't. Any real technical content was stripped years ago.

On positive side I think ARRL is still doing a pretty decent job
representing our interests to the Beltway Bandits.

73 KC2LVQ

The ARRL doesn't deal much with Beltway bandits. Do you know what a
Beltway Bandit is?

Dave K8MN

Sir, if you are so interested in having a magazine dedicated to the free
banding people why don't you start one. With 15 million, seems that you
would end up as a financial wizard.

The ARRL isn't going to print anything about free banding when they
operate on frequencies they are not permitted. "Licensing" is the name
of the game. "Legal" operation is the name of the game. Maybe you should
go back to printing a "CB" magazine, something like there was back in
the 60's-70's.

Jose wrote:

I don't lilke the ARRL, because QST does not print
any articles on Freebanding. Freebanding IS more popular
than ham radio, and we represent almost 15 million new
potential ARRL members. Too bad the ARRL Yankees
can't figure this out.

Jose