On Jan 25, 7:52*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
wrote:
Just getting to
the exam could be a major journey, depending on where you lived.

Come to think of it - my parents drove me to the Houston
FCC office for my Novice exam so at that time the distance
limit was still 125 miles. A year later, when my Novice
expired, I was eligible to take the Conditional by mail
because the distance limit had been reduced to 75 miles.
I have lost track of exactly when I got those licenses
but that knowledge should help to bracket the dates.

Here's an exact date, Cecil:

June 10, 1954

On that date, the "Conditional distance" was reduced from 125 miles to
75 miles "air-line" from a quarterly examining point.

Also on that date, FCC stopped giving routine Novice and Technician
exams at FCC exam sessions, and instead gave the job to volunteer
examiners. After that date, Novice and Technician exams wouyld be done
by mail regardless of distance from and FCC exam point.

In those days there were three FCC offices in Texas - Houston, Dallas
and Beaumont. Houston and Dallas gave exams on a weekly schedule, while
Beaumont was a sub-office that.gave exams by appointment. Exams were
also given four times a year in San Antonio.

Of course, in Texas, it's not at all difficult to be more than 75 miles
from all four of those offices.

The reason cited for the changes was that the FCC exam sessions were
overloaded with amateurs taking the exams, and the FCC had almost
overrun its 1953 budget for giving exams. In those days there were no
license fees to defray the cost.

This overload happened even though the FCC had stopped giving the
Advanced exam 18 months earlier (end of 1952) and there were few
applicants for the Extra because that license did not convey any
additional operating privileges. Also, the "retest if you move closer"
rule had been dropped in 1952, yet the FCC exam sessions were brusting
at the seems..

Thanks again, Jim.

You're welcome, Cecil. Hope that helps pin down the date.

---

btw, in those days the FCC did not give credit for license exam
elements previously passed unless they were passed in front of an FCC
examiner. If a Novice who had gotten the license by mail went for the
Technician, s/he had to do the 5 wpm code again. If a by-mail
Technician went for the General or Conditional, s/he had to do the
written exam again even though, back then, all three of those license
classes used the same written test.


73 de Jim, N2EY

If anyone has questions about how the license manual questions and
material have evolved through the years, I have the 1938, 1940, 1947,
1955, 1963, 1973, 1974 and 1975 ARRL License manuals and would be happy
to field questions.

Dave K8MN

On Jan 26, 9:25?pm, Dave Heil wrote:
If anyone has questions about how the license manual questions and
material have evolved through the years, I have the 1938, 1940, 1947,
1955, 1963, 1973, 1974 and 1975 ARRL License manuals and would be happy
to field questions.

Dave K8MN

I'll be happy to field questions, too. I have the License Manuals from
1948, 1951, 1954, 1962 and 1971.

73 de Jim, N2EY

wrote:

On Jan 26, 9:25?pm, Dave Heil wrote:
If anyone has questions about how the license manual questions and
material have evolved through the years, I have the 1938, 1940, 1947,
1955, 1963, 1973, 1974 and 1975 ARRL License manuals and would be happy
to field questions.

I'll be happy to field questions, too. I have the License Manuals from
1948, 1951, 1954, 1962 and 1971.

1957 is as close as I've been able to get to 1953, the
one that I used.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Dave Heil wrote in news:SKyuh.17581$w91.2494
@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:

If anyone has questions about how the license manual questions and
material have evolved through the years, I have the 1938, 1940, 1947,
1955, 1963, 1973, 1974 and 1975 ARRL License manuals and would be happy
to field questions.


Are those things still under copyright Dave? Scanning them and
putting them on the web would be a tremendous asset, as well as
interesting. I could provide the space.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

Mike Coslo wrote:
Dave Heil wrote in news:SKyuh.17581$w91.2494
@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:

If anyone has questions about how the license manual questions and
material have evolved through the years, I have the 1938, 1940, 1947,
1955, 1963, 1973, 1974 and 1975 ARRL License manuals and would be happy
to field questions.


Are those things still under copyright Dave? Scanning them and
putting them on the web would be a tremendous asset, as well as
interesting. I could provide the space.

I'm pretty sure that they are still covered under copyright. The
scanning could take a long, long time.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:
Dave Heil wrote in news:SKyuh.17581$w91.2494
@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:

If anyone has questions about how the license manual questions and
material have evolved through the years, I have the 1938, 1940, 1947,
1955, 1963, 1973, 1974 and 1975 ARRL License manuals and would be
happy to field questions.


Are those things still under copyright Dave? Scanning them and
putting them on the web would be a tremendous asset, as well as
interesting. I could provide the space.

I'm pretty sure that they are still covered under copyright. The
scanning could take a long, long time.

Dave K8MN

Federal tests are copyrighted?

What is wrong with that picture? If they are using my tax dollars, they
are mine and everyone elses!

JS

John Smith I wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:
Dave Heil wrote in news:SKyuh.17581$w91.2494
@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:

If anyone has questions about how the license manual questions and
material have evolved through the years, I have the 1938, 1940,
1947, 1955, 1963, 1973, 1974 and 1975 ARRL License manuals and would
be happy to field questions.


Are those things still under copyright Dave? Scanning them
and putting them on the web would be a tremendous asset, as well as
interesting. I could provide the space.

I'm pretty sure that they are still covered under copyright. The
scanning could take a long, long time.

Federal tests are copyrighted?

Read along with us, "John". We're discussing ARRL License manuals. The
study material was *not* actual FCC test material.

What is wrong with that picture? If they are using my tax dollars, they
are mine and everyone elses!

You have some distortion in your receiver. Your tax dollars weren't in
the picture. The material was copyrighted by the ARRL.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:

...
Read along with us, "John". We're discussing ARRL License manuals. The
study material was *not* actual FCC test material.
...

Dave:

Sorry, you are quite right, should have paid more attention.

Well, my red face will go away in a bit ...

Regards,
JS

John Smith I wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:
Dave Heil wrote in news:SKyuh.17581$w91.2494
@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:

If anyone has questions about how the license manual questions and
material have evolved through the years, I have the 1938, 1940, 1947,
1955, 1963, 1973, 1974 and 1975 ARRL License manuals and would be
happy to field questions.


Are those things still under copyright Dave? Scanning them and
putting them on the web would be a tremendous asset, as well as
interesting. I could provide the space.

I'm pretty sure that they are still covered under copyright. The
scanning could take a long, long time.

Dave K8MN

Federal tests are copyrighted?

What is wrong with that picture? If they are using my tax dollars, they
are mine and everyone elses!

What part of "ARRL License manuals" are you having difficulty understanding?

--
Jim Pennino

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