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VE Testing Rules
On Mar 19, 4:21�pm, wrote:
On Mar 19, 8:42 pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago * *I did NOT "do as I said years ago." * No, you most certainly did not. *You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". *You did squat for those years. * *Miccolis MANUFACTURED * *some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well * *out of context at the time. It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. *That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. * *I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license * *until the 17th of February. *That's the truth regardless of how * *others twist around old statements of mine. * I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. * *However, once * *IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. * *Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work * *towards that goal with more attention. *There is NO extra- * *special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to * *pass those tests. * I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. * *All it takes is some attention-focused * *work. Many told you so. *You usually dismissed them. *You were told the same about learning Morse code. Dave K8MN Dave, how's that run for the Roanoke Division Director coming? Instead of becoming Division Manager "Right Out Of The Box," you might want to try being a Section Manager first, and work your way up the ladder. *I understand that your Section, West Virginia, will be having a run-off soon, so you might as well start now. *After all, you have a finite time for eligibility and in which to participate. *All it takes is some attention-focused work. Best of Luck http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/org/smterms.html- Hide quoted text - Tsk, tsk, Brian, that would be a step DOWN for the great David Heil! :-) Darn, I should have made a note of the DATE at which he started campaigning for Manager. Could have come back years later about his BOASTING on getting elected! :-) 73, Len AF6AY |
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VE Testing Rules
On Mar 20, 1:04 am, "
wrote: On Mar 19, wrote: On Mar 19, 8:42 pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago ? ?I did NOT "do as I said years ago." ? No, you most certainly did not. ?You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". ?You did squat for those years. ? ?Miccolis MANUFACTURED ? ?some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well ? ?out of context at the time. It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. ?That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. ? ?I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license ? ?until the 17th of February. ?That's the truth regardless of how ? ?others twist around old statements of mine. ? I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. ? ?However, once ? ?IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. ? ?Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work ? ?towards that goal with more attention. ?There is NO extra- ? ?special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to ? ?pass those tests. ? I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. ? ?All it takes is some attention-focused ? ?work. Many told you so. ?You usually dismissed them. ?You were told the same about learning Morse code. Dave K8MN Dave, how's that run for the Roanoke Division Director coming? Instead of becoming Division Manager "Right Out Of The Box," you might want to try being a Section Manager first, and work your way up the ladder. ?I understand that your Section, West Virginia, will be having a run-off soon, so you might as well start now. ?After all, you have a finite time for eligibility and in which to participate. ?All it takes is some attention-focused work. Best of Luck http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/org/smterms.html-Hide quoted text - Tsk, tsk, Brian, that would be a step DOWN for the great David Heil! :-) Darn, I should have made a note of the DATE at which he started campaigning for Manager. Could have come back years later about his BOASTING on getting elected! :-) 73, Len AF6AY- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Heil made the announcement on September 7, 2006. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...daa0cf5?hl=en& In another declaration, Heil said that people who cannot spell should not hold a position of leadership. Shortly thereafter, I noted spelling errors in a Heil posting and made note of it. Which is worse, making spelling errors, or working out-of-band Frenchmen on Six Meters? Apparently, Heil thinks it's the former. I think it's the latter. In any case, Heil did both. His run for the Roanoke Division Directorship is doomed. |
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Seven Years, Two Months Ago Today
On Mar 19, 9:13�pm, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote: On Mar 19, 6:42?pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago I did NOT "do as I said years ago." LA "I'm going for Amateur Extra "out of the box." " No, you most certainly did not. You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". ? You did squat for those years. Dave, Haven't you figured out Len's game yet? It's really simple. He plants errors in his posts, then argues with and derides some of those who point them out. Well he *makes* a great many factual errors. *I didn't think they were all planted though. I didn't say they were *all* planted. But consider the one under discussion. Len wrote in January 2000 that he was going for Extra out of the box. No mention of waiting for the Morse Code test to be removed. Then he finally does it seven years and some days later. All easily verified facts. But then he says he did not do as he said he would do, years ago. Why would someone put such an obvious and easily-disproved error into a posting here? MANUFACTURED some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well out of context at the time. See? There he goes! The context is crystal clear, yet he says the whole thing is "MANUFACTURED". It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. Here's a link to that posting of Jan 19, 2000: http://tinyurl.com/c5qyv And the famous quote: LA "I'm going for Amateur Extra "out of the box." " "an old friend" knows what Len meant. You know what Len meant. I know what Len meant. Anyone who understands plain English who reads that post knows what Len meant. I'm banking on that. *He bragged. *He fell. He finally did it, though. btw - more recently, Len boasted that he could pass the Extra with or without the Morse Code test. Since he waited until after the Morse Code test was eliminated, it proved to be an idle boast. It is something he'll never have the opportunity to find out. I'm sure a simulated test could be arranged. I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license until the 17th of February. Note that Len does not mention which year! No, he does not. I think he meant Feb 17 1999, soon after the Reply Comments to 98-143 closed. You know - the Reply Comments where he proposed a minimum age of 14 years for any class of Amateur Radio license. * *That's the truth regardless of how others twist around old statements of mine. See? It's all other people's fault. Even though Len wrote: LA "I'm going for Amateur Extra "out of the box." " way back then. I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. However, once IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. Do you think Len has an HF amateur radio station of his own operational yet? Noooooo. If he ever does set up a station, do you think it will be a state-of-the-art experimental station, mostly homebrew? Noooooo. Or do you think it will be an assembly of off-the-shelf manufactured equipment? Assuredly. It's really simple: Len wants others to do as he says, not as he does. Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work towards that goal with more attention. I could have told Len that back in 1970, when I got my Extra in the summer between 10th and 11th grade. I believe you could have. *Len just procrastinated for decades. *He couldn't overcome inertia. Nobody really knows. * *There is NO extra- special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to pass those tests. Yup. Yet it took Len all those years to get his. Inertia. Maybe. I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. Not a one. So where does Len get his ideas? *Does he forget that *he* is the one who has stated such things? Actually, that's probably true. Have you forgotten the post where I explained the basics of the psychological terms "projection" and "transference"? Here's a handy link, for reference: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e=source&hl=en or http://tinyurl.com/2jsrdb All it takes is some attention-focused work. How about that! Even with all of Len's PROFESSIONAL experience, it took *work* for him to pass the Extra. But what has Len said of "work" in the past? Refresh my memory. I didn't think it was work at all, back in 1970. Nor now. You wouldn't think it would be much work for a PROFESSIONAL. I do recall Len complaining that learning Morse Code was hard work for him. He claimed to have reached 7 or 8 wpm way back when. Many told you so. You usually dismissed them. You were told the same about learning Morse code. Consider Len's game, Dave. He says he will do things, then doesn't do them. Like the way he said he would leave rrap when the Morse Code test was eliminated. Element 1 went away, but Len didn't. If you couple his deliberate and other factual errors with the fact that you can't take him at his word, you aren't left with much. Projection. Transference. Or he says things and then denies he said them. Then folks waste time pointing out his errors, and he gets to insult them for telling the truth. ...or says that those things are MANUFACTURED out of whole cloth or that they are taken out of context. Yet we never get an explanation of the context. Keep at it and he'll toss in the Byte Brothers quote and other insults. ...or tell you to DROP IT! Or to go get....you know the rest. And after all that, he will complain about the 'filth' in a thread. Here's that link anc quote, again: http://tinyurl.com/c5qyv LA "I'm going for Amateur Extra "out of the box." " And he finally did - seven years later. Now he's finally a new radio amateur. A novice, beginner, tyro, tenderfoot, wet-behind-the-ears, just-out-of-the-box newbie to amateur radio. Yup. Go a little easy on Len. He needs quite a bit of Elmering, I think. Most neophytes do. Ah yes, neophyte. What the Gs call 'nippers'. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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VE Testing Rules
On Mar 20, 3:23�pm, wrote:
On Mar 20, 1:04 am, " wrote: On Mar 19, wrote: On Mar 19, 8:42 pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen.. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago ? ?I did NOT "do as I said years ago." ? No, you most certainly did not. ?You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". ?You did squat for those years. ? ?Miccolis MANUFACTURED ? ?some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well ? ?out of context at the time. It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. ?That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. ? ?I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license ? ?until the 17th of February. ?That's the truth regardless of how ? ?others twist around old statements of mine. ? I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. ? ?However, once ? ?IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. ? ?Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work ? ?towards that goal with more attention. ?There is NO extra- ? ?special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to ? ?pass those tests. ? I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. ? ?All it takes is some attention-focused ? ?work. Many told you so. ?You usually dismissed them. ?You were told the same about learning Morse code. Dave K8MN Dave, how's that run for the Roanoke Division Director coming? Instead of becoming Division Manager "Right Out Of The Box," you might want to try being a Section Manager first, and work your way up the ladder. ?I understand that your Section, West Virginia, will be having a run-off soon, so you might as well start now. ?After all, you have a finite time for eligibility and in which to participate. ?All it takes is some attention-focused work. Best of Luck http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/org...tml-Hidequoted text - * *Tsk, tsk, Brian, that would be a step DOWN for the great * *David Heil! * :-) * *Darn, I should have made a note of the DATE at which he * *started campaigning for Manager. *Could have come back * *years later about his BOASTING on getting elected! * :-) Heil made the announcement on September 7, 2006. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r.../msg/eb0250fae... In another declaration, Heil said that people who cannot spell should not hold a position of leadership. He might have been thinking in Hunnish at the time. He says that he KNOWS how Hun names are spelled in English... Shortly thereafter, I noted spelling errors in a Heil posting and made note of it. Which is worse, making spelling errors, or working out-of-band Frenchmen on Six Meters? Anything said negative against him is "worst." Doesn't matter what the subject is... :-) Apparently, Heil thinks it's the former. *I think it's the latter. *In any case, Heil did both. He might be hedging his bets... His run for the Roanoke Division Directorship is doomed. No sweat. He is "superior" to anyone. Sooner or later he will rule the (amateur) world... Anyway, he no "represent" me, never could, never would... 73, Len |
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VE Testing Rules
On Mar 20, 9:39 pm, " wrote:
On Mar 20, 3:23?pm, wrote: On Mar 20, 1:04 am, " wrote: On Mar 19, wrote: On Mar 19, 8:42 pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago ? ?I did NOT "do as I said years ago." ? No, you most certainly did not. ?You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". ?You did squat for those years. ? ?Miccolis MANUFACTURED ? ?some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well ? ?out of context at the time. It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. ?That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. ? ?I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license ? ?until the 17th of February. ?That's the truth regardless of how ? ?others twist around old statements of mine. ? I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. ? ?However, once ? ?IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. ? ?Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work ? ?towards that goal with more attention. ?There is NO extra- ? ?special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to ? ?pass those tests. ? I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. ? ?All it takes is some attention-focused ? ?work. Many told you so. ?You usually dismissed them. ?You were told the same about learning Morse code. Dave K8MN Dave, how's that run for the Roanoke Division Director coming? Instead of becoming Division Manager "Right Out Of The Box," you might want to try being a Section Manager first, and work your way up the ladder. ?I understand that your Section, West Virginia, will be having a run-off soon, so you might as well start now. ?After all, you have a finite time for eligibility and in which to participate. ?All it takes is some attention-focused work. Best of Luck http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/org...Hidequotedtext - ? ?Tsk, tsk, Brian, that would be a step DOWN for the great ? ?David Heil! ? :-) ? ?Darn, I should have made a note of the DATE at which he ? ?started campaigning for Manager. ?Could have come back ? ?years later about his BOASTING on getting elected! ? :-) Heil made the announcement on September 7, 2006. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r.../msg/eb0250fae... In another declaration, Heil said that people who cannot spell should not hold a position of leadership. He might have been thinking in Hunnish at the time. He says that he KNOWS how Hun names are spelled in English... I'm sure he would make spelling errors in both English and Hunnish. He's human, I think. Shortly thereafter, I noted spelling errors in a Heil posting and made note of it. Which is worse, making spelling errors, or working out-of-band Frenchmen on Six Meters? Anything said negative against him is "worst." Doesn't matter what the subject is... :-) A little constructive criticism never hurt anyone, or has it? Apparently, Heil thinks it's the former. ?I think it's the latter. ?In any case, Heil did both. He might be hedging his bets... or he's shooting for a trifecta. His run for the Roanoke Division Directorship is doomed. No sweat. He is "superior" to anyone. Sooner or later he will rule the (amateur) world... I think not. Anyway, he no "represent" me, never could, never would... 73, Len Hopefully, he represents only hisself. |
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VE Testing Rules
On Mar 21, 2:16�pm, wrote:
On Mar 20, 9:39 pm, " wrote: On Mar 20, 3:23?pm, wrote: On Mar 20, 1:04 am, " wrote: On Mar 19, wrote: On Mar 19, 8:42 pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago ? ?I did NOT "do as I said years ago." ? No, you most certainly did not. ?You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". ?You did squat for those years. ? ?Miccolis MANUFACTURED ? ?some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well ? ?out of context at the time. It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. ?That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. ? ?I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license ? ?until the 17th of February. ?That's the truth regardless of how ? ?others twist around old statements of mine. ? I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. ? ?However, once ? ?IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. ? ?Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work ? ?towards that goal with more attention. ?There is NO extra- ? ?special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to ? ?pass those tests. ? I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. ? ?All it takes is some attention-focused ? ?work. Many told you so. ?You usually dismissed them. ?You were told the same about learning Morse code. Dave K8MN Dave, how's that run for the Roanoke Division Director coming? Instead of becoming Division Manager "Right Out Of The Box," you might want to try being a Section Manager first, and work your way up the ladder. ?I understand that your Section, West Virginia, will be having a run-off soon, so you might as well start now. ?After all, you have a finite time for eligibility and in which to participate. ?All it takes is some attention-focused work. Best of Luck http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/org...idequotedtext- ? ?Tsk, tsk, Brian, that would be a step DOWN for the great ? ?David Heil! ? :-) ? ?Darn, I should have made a note of the DATE at which he ? ?started campaigning for Manager. ?Could have come back ? ?years later about his BOASTING on getting elected! ? :-) Heil made the announcement on September 7, 2006. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r.../msg/eb0250fae.... In another declaration, Heil said that people who cannot spell should not hold a position of leadership. * *He might have been thinking in Hunnish at the time. *He says * *that he KNOWS how Hun names are spelled in English... I'm sure he would make spelling errors in both English and Hunnish. He's human, I think. Shortly thereafter, I noted spelling errors in a Heil posting and made note of it. Which is worse, making spelling errors, or working out-of-band Frenchmen on Six Meters? * *Anything said negative against him is "worst." *Doesn't matter * *what the subject is... :-) A little constructive criticism never hurt anyone, or has it? Normally that is true. To some pro-coders it is the vilest comment that can be made to them! :-) Apparently, Heil thinks it's the former. ?I think it's the latter. ?In any case, Heil did both. * *He might be hedging his bets... or he's shooting for a trifecta. Whatever he is shooting at, his aim is off... :-( His run for the Roanoke Division Directorship is doomed. * *No sweat. *He is "superior" to anyone. *Sooner or later he * *will rule the (amateur) world... I think not. Well, he implies as such...and in public, too! :-) * *Anyway, he no "represent" me, never could, never would... Hopefully, he represents only hisself. To paraphrase, he is "a representative of one!" salute 73, Len |
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VE Testing Rules
On Mar 21, 8:33 pm, "AF6AY" wrote:
On Mar 21, 2:16?pm, wrote: On Mar 20, 9:39 pm, " wrote: On Mar 20, 3:23?pm, wrote: On Mar 20, 1:04 am, " wrote: On Mar 19, wrote: On Mar 19, 8:42 pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago ? ?I did NOT "do as I said years ago." ? No, you most certainly did not. ?You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". ?You did squat for those years. ? ?Miccolis MANUFACTURED ? ?some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well ? ?out of context at the time. It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. ?That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. ? ?I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license ? ?until the 17th of February. ?That's the truth regardless of how ? ?others twist around old statements of mine. ? I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. ? ?However, once ? ?IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. ? ?Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work ? ?towards that goal with more attention. ?There is NO extra- ? ?special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to ? ?pass those tests. ? I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. ? ?All it takes is some attention-focused ? ?work. Many told you so. ?You usually dismissed them. ?You were told the same about learning Morse code. Dave K8MN Dave, how's that run for the Roanoke Division Director coming? Instead of becoming Division Manager "Right Out Of The Box," you might want to try being a Section Manager first, and work your way up the ladder. ?I understand that your Section, West Virginia, will be having a run-off soon, so you might as well start now. ?After all, you have a finite time for eligibility and in which to participate. ?All it takes is some attention-focused work. Best of Luck http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/org...idequotedtext- ? ?Tsk, tsk, Brian, that would be a step DOWN for the great ? ?David Heil! ? :-) ? ?Darn, I should have made a note of the DATE at which he ? ?started campaigning for Manager. ?Could have come back ? ?years later about his BOASTING on getting elected! ? :-) Heil made the announcement on September 7, 2006. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r.../msg/eb0250fae... In another declaration, Heil said that people who cannot spell should not hold a position of leadership. ? ?He might have been thinking in Hunnish at the time. ?He says ? ?that he KNOWS how Hun names are spelled in English... I'm sure he would make spelling errors in both English and Hunnish. He's human, I think. Shortly thereafter, I noted spelling errors in a Heil posting and made note of it. Which is worse, making spelling errors, or working out-of-band Frenchmen on Six Meters? ? ?Anything said negative against him is "worst." ?Doesn't matter ? ?what the subject is... :-) A little constructive criticism never hurt anyone, or has it? Normally that is true. To some pro-coders it is the vilest comment that can be made to them! :-) It has the largest impact on the smug ones. Apparently, Heil thinks it's the former. ?I think it's the latter. ?In any case, Heil did both. ? ?He might be hedging his bets... or he's shooting for a trifecta. Whatever he is shooting at, his aim is off... :-( We'll see. The nomination period is open for the Roanoke Division Directorship, and he's already announced his candidacy. Now we must wait/see if he has enough local support or if he must self- nominate. Then the ARRL might accept or deny his nomination - conflicts of interest and such. You know the drill. Then there's the all important election, if he had a campaign... If elected, will he acceptor decline the position? ... to spend more time with his family. His run for the Roanoke Division Directorship is doomed. ? ?No sweat. ?He is "superior" to anyone. ?Sooner or later he ? ?will rule the (amateur) world... I think not. Well, he implies as such...and in public, too! :-) That's not a good thing to be implied when running for Div. Director. ? ?Anyway, he no "represent" me, never could, never would... Hopefully, he represents only hisself. To paraphrase, he is "a representative of one!" salute 73, Len A true democracy! |
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VE Testing Rules
On Mar 22, 3:02�pm, wrote:
On Mar 21, 8:33 pm, "AF6AY" wrote: On Mar 21, 2:16?pm, wrote: On Mar 20, 9:39 pm, " wrote: On Mar 20, 3:23?pm, wrote: On Mar 20, 1:04 am, " wrote: On Mar 19, wrote: On Mar 19, 8:42 pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago ? ?I did NOT "do as I said years ago." ? No, you most certainly did not. ?You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". ?You did squat for those years. ? ?Miccolis MANUFACTURED ? ?some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well ? ?out of context at the time. It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. ?That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. ? ?I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license ? ?until the 17th of February. ?That's the truth regardless of how ? ?others twist around old statements of mine. ? I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. ? ?However, once ? ?IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. ? ?Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work ? ?towards that goal with more attention. ?There is NO extra- ? ?special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to ? ?pass those tests. ? I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. ? ?All it takes is some attention-focused ? ?work. Many told you so. ?You usually dismissed them. ?You were told the same about learning Morse code. Dave K8MN Dave, how's that run for the Roanoke Division Director coming? Instead of becoming Division Manager "Right Out Of The Box," you might want to try being a Section Manager first, and work your way up the ladder. ?I understand that your Section, West Virginia, will be having a run-off soon, so you might as well start now. ?After all, you have a finite time for eligibility and in which to participate. ?All it takes is some attention-focused work. Best of Luck http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/org...idequotedtext- ? ?Tsk, tsk, Brian, that would be a step DOWN for the great ? ?David Heil! ? :-) ? ?Darn, I should have made a note of the DATE at which he ? ?started campaigning for Manager. ?Could have come back ? ?years later about his BOASTING on getting elected! ? :-) Heil made the announcement on September 7, 2006. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r.../msg/eb0250fae... In another declaration, Heil said that people who cannot spell should not hold a position of leadership. ? ?He might have been thinking in Hunnish at the time. ?He says ? ?that he KNOWS how Hun names are spelled in English... I'm sure he would make spelling errors in both English and Hunnish. He's human, I think. Shortly thereafter, I noted spelling errors in a Heil posting and made note of it. Which is worse, making spelling errors, or working out-of-band Frenchmen on Six Meters? ? ?Anything said negative against him is "worst." ?Doesn't matter ? ?what the subject is... :-) A little constructive criticism never hurt anyone, or has it? * *Normally that is true. *To some pro-coders it is the vilest comment * *that can be made to them! *:-) It has the largest impact on the smug ones. Apparently, Heil thinks it's the former. ?I think it's the latter.. ?In any case, Heil did both. ? ?He might be hedging his bets... or he's shooting for a trifecta. * *Whatever he is shooting at, his aim is off... *:-( We'll see. The nomination period is open for the Roanoke Division Directorship, and he's already announced his candidacy. That's nice... Now we must wait/see if he has enough local support or if he must self- nominate. That might be interesting... Then the ARRL might accept or deny his nomination - conflicts of interest and such. *You know the drill. Well, he IS an olde-tymer and a morseman. I doubt if there will be any close-order drill involved. Should not be a problem for one of the "old school" in hamateur raddio. Then there's the all important election, if he had a campaign... If elected, will he accept or decline the position? * ... to spend more time with his family. Ahem..."family?" A second wife, maybe the daughter from the first marriage...? His run for the Roanoke Division Directorship is doomed. ? ?No sweat. ?He is "superior" to anyone. ?Sooner or later he ? ?will rule the (amateur) world... I think not. * *Well, he implies as such...and in public, too! * :-) That's not a good thing to be implied when running for Div. Director. ? ?Anyway, he no "represent" me, never could, never would... Hopefully, he represents only hisself. * *To paraphrase, he is "a representative of one!" * * salute A true democracy! A "solo oligarchy!" :-) The old Greeks would approve...maybe. The original representative government-congress model for the rest of the world (of the Vikings and roughly preserved in Iceland) called the 'allthing' would not. One doesn't mess with Vikings. :-) 73, Len |
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On Mar 22, 8:58 pm, "AF6AY" wrote:
On Mar 22, 3:02?pm, wrote: On Mar 21, 8:33 pm, "AF6AY" wrote: On Mar 21, 2:16?pm, wrote: On Mar 20, 9:39 pm, " wrote: On Mar 20, 3:23?pm, wrote: On Mar 20, 1:04 am, " wrote: On Mar 19, wrote: On Mar 19, 8:42 pm, Dave Heil wrote: wrote: On Mar 19, 8:33?am, "an old friend" wrote: On Mar 18, 12:12 pm, "Alun L. Palmer" wrote: " wrote roups.com: Blimey! You got a callsign! I didn't think it would ever happen. Welcome aboard. Alun N3KIP he did just as he said he would years ago ? ?I did NOT "do as I said years ago." ? No, you most certainly did not. ?You made a boast over seven years back of going for an "Extra right out of the box". ?You did squat for those years. ? ?Miccolis MANUFACTURED ? ?some life-enduring "promise" out of whole cloth, taking it well ? ?out of context at the time. It was not manufactured at all and was certainly not taken out of context. ?That you now find it embarrassing is the issue. ? ?I did not seriously consider getting an amateur radio license ? ?until the 17th of February. ?That's the truth regardless of how ? ?others twist around old statements of mine. ? I find it difficult to accept your claim as factual. ? ?However, once ? ?IN, I plan to stay in...until I decide to get out (if I do). Everyone who becomes a radio amateur has a finite time in which to participate. ? ?Once a REAL decision has been made, then one can work ? ?towards that goal with more attention. ?There is NO extra- ? ?special, genius (or genuous) level of knowledge required to ? ?pass those tests. ? I don't recall a single Morse-tested Extra class licensee ever saying that the Amateur Extra was a mark of genius. ? ?All it takes is some attention-focused ? ?work. Many told you so. ?You usually dismissed them. ?You were told the same about learning Morse code. Dave K8MN Dave, how's that run for the Roanoke Division Director coming? Instead of becoming Division Manager "Right Out Of The Box," you might want to try being a Section Manager first, and work your way up the ladder. ?I understand that your Section, West Virginia, will be having a run-off soon, so you might as well start now. ?After all, you have a finite time for eligibility and in which to participate. ?All it takes is some attention-focused work. Best of Luck http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/org...idequotedtext- ? ?Tsk, tsk, Brian, that would be a step DOWN for the great ? ?David Heil! ? :-) ? ?Darn, I should have made a note of the DATE at which he ? ?started campaigning for Manager. ?Could have come back ? ?years later about his BOASTING on getting elected! ? :-) Heil made the announcement on September 7, 2006. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r.../msg/eb0250fae... In another declaration, Heil said that people who cannot spell should not hold a position of leadership. ? ?He might have been thinking in Hunnish at the time. ?He says ? ?that he KNOWS how Hun names are spelled in English... I'm sure he would make spelling errors in both English and Hunnish. He's human, I think. Shortly thereafter, I noted spelling errors in a Heil posting and made note of it. Which is worse, making spelling errors, or working out-of-band Frenchmen on Six Meters? ? ?Anything said negative against him is "worst." ?Doesn't matter ? ?what the subject is... :-) A little constructive criticism never hurt anyone, or has it? ? ?Normally that is true. ?To some pro-coders it is the vilest comment ? ?that can be made to them! ?:-) It has the largest impact on the smug ones. Apparently, Heil thinks it's the former. ?I think it's the latter. ?In any case, Heil did both. ? ?He might be hedging his bets... or he's shooting for a trifecta. ? ?Whatever he is shooting at, his aim is off... ?:-( We'll see. The nomination period is open for the Roanoke Division Directorship, and he's already announced his candidacy. That's nice... Maybe not. At least I'm not in the Roanoke Division. Now we must wait/see if he has enough local support or if he must self- nominate. That might be interesting... Might be a long, long wait. Then the ARRL might accept or deny his nomination - conflicts of interest and such. You know the drill. Well, he IS an olde-tymer and a morseman. I doubt if there will be any close-order drill involved. Should not be a problem for one of the "old school" in hamateur raddio. He doesn't work for a living, so he is hugely qualified. Then there's the all important election, if he had a campaign... If elected, will he accept or decline the position? ? ... to spend more time with his family. Ahem..."family?" A second wife, maybe the daughter from the first marriage...? Yep, when a skeleton pops up, candidate gets scarce and claim they are spending time with their families. Let the healing begin. His run for the Roanoke Division Directorship is doomed. ? ?No sweat. ?He is "superior" to anyone. ?Sooner or later he ? ?will rule the (amateur) world... I think not. ? ?Well, he implies as such...and in public, too! ? :-) That's not a good thing to be implied when running for Div. Director. ? ?Anyway, he no "represent" me, never could, never would... Hopefully, he represents only hisself. ? ?To paraphrase, he is "a representative of one!" ? ? salute A true democracy! A "solo oligarchy!" :-) The old Greeks would approve...maybe. Would the new Greeks? The original representative government-congress model for the rest of the world (of the Vikings and roughly preserved in Iceland) called the 'allthing' would not. Valhalla. One doesn't mess with Vikings. :-) I don't mess with my Nye-Viking... much. 73, Len 73 |
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