AF6AY wrote:
From: John Smith I on Wed, 04 Apr 2007
06:17:11 -0700

Dave Heil snarled:

...
You aren't lopping off heads, Len. You're a beginner in amateur radio.
Trust me on this point: You'll get all the recognition you deserve.
Standing in the midst of genderless midgets, he IS bound to get
attention! 8-)

Careful, JS, you are speaking to Mister DeeEcks, formerly from
the Government! [here to help? nah...]

He WAS DX!

Like that is the "only" function a US amateur "must" have...
"working DX on HF with CW." :-)

As you've been advised repeatedly, the only person making such a claim
is Leonard H. Anderson, now a neophyte in amateur radio.

Dave K8MN

On Apr 5, 2:56 pm, Dave Heil wrote:
AF6AY wrote:
From: John Smith I on Wed, 04 Apr 2007
06:17:11 -0700

Dave Heil snarled:

...
You aren't lopping off heads, Len. You're a beginner in amateur radio.
Trust me on this point: You'll get all the recognition you deserve.
Standing in the midst of genderless midgets, he IS bound to get
attention! 8-)

Careful, JS, you are speaking to Mister DeeEcks, formerly from
the Government! [here to help? nah...]

He WAS DX!

Like that is the "only" function a US amateur "must" have...
"working DX on HF with CW." :-)

As you've been advised repeatedly, the only person making such a claim
is Leonard H. Anderson, now a neophyte in amateur radio.

Dave K8MN

Dave, like it or not, I think you've just admitted that Len is an
ARO. Take another chug of branch water and everything will be
allright!

On Apr 6, 5:51�pm, wrote:
On Apr 5, 2:56 pm, Dave Heil wrote:





AF6AY wrote:
From: John Smith I on Wed, 04 Apr 2007
06:17:11 -0700

Dave Heil snarled:

...
You aren't lopping off heads, Len. *You're a beginner in amateur radio.
Trust me on this point: *You'll get all the recognition you deserve.
Standing in the midst of genderless midgets, he IS bound to get
attention! *8-)

* *Careful, JS, you are speaking to Mister DeeEcks, formerly from
* *the Government! *[here to help? *nah...]

* *He WAS DX!

* *Like that is the "only" function a US amateur "must" have...
* *"working DX on HF with CW." *:-)

As you've been advised repeatedly, the only person making such a claim
is Leonard H. Anderson, now a neophyte in amateur radio.

Dave K8MN

Dave, like it or not, I think you've just admitted that *Len is an
ARO. *Take another chug of branch water and everything will be
allright!

Tsk, Brian, there ain't NO booze, branch water, or aqvavit to
make Davey say such a thing without the adjective of
"neophyte," "beginner" or whatever he needs to PUT DOWN
OTHERS he no like! :-)

73, Len AF6AY [Extra Out Of The Box!]

AF6AY wrote:

Tsk, Brian, there ain't NO booze, branch water, or aqvavit to
make Davey say such a thing without the adjective of
"neophyte," "beginner" or whatever he needs to PUT DOWN
OTHERS he no like! :-)

I'm sorry that you don't like it, Len, but you are a beginner or
neophyte in amateur radio. You're just getting started. You're just
getting your feet wet.

Don't worry, you'll get the hang of it.

73, Len AF6AY [Extra Out Of The Box!]
...after a delay of seven long years. "Right out of the box"
never took place.

Dave K8MN

On Apr 7, 2:25 am, Dave Heil wrote:
AF6AY wrote:
Tsk, Brian, there ain't NO booze, branch water, or aqvavit to
make Davey say such a thing without the adjective of
"neophyte," "beginner" or whatever he needs to PUT DOWN
OTHERS he no like! :-)

I'm sorry that you don't like it, Len, but you are a beginner or
neophyte in amateur radio. You're just getting started. You're just
getting your feet wet.

Don't worry, you'll get the hang of it.

73, Len AF6AY [Extra Out Of The Box!]

...after a delay of seven long years. "Right out of the box"
never took place.

Dave K8MN

That's a fine way for the future director of the Roanoke Division to
welcome a fellow amateur into the service. You're just the kind of
amateur we need in the leadership.

From: on 8 Apr 2007 08:32:35 -0700

Subject: The First Month of the Revolution in USA Amateur Radio

On Apr 7, 2:25 am, Dave Heil wrote:
AF6AY wrote:
Tsk, Brian, there ain't NO booze, branch water, or aqvavit to
make Davey say such a thing without the adjective of
"neophyte," "beginner" or whatever he needs to PUT DOWN
OTHERS he no like! :-)

I'm sorry that you don't like it, Len, but you are a beginner or
neophyte in amateur radio. You're just getting started. You're just
getting your feet wet.

Don't worry, you'll get the hang of it.

73, Len AF6AY [Extra Out Of The Box!]

...after a delay of seven long years. "Right out of the box" never took place.

FACTUAL ERROR by Heil!

"Extra Out Of The Box" is a colloquial phrase referring to
one who takes ALL test elements at one test session and
passes all of them. That is what I did on 25 Feb 07.

Four VE examiners in that session, all Amateur Extras who
cross-checked each other's scoring for accuracy. An ARRL
VEC exam team, their work was checked in Newington and
approved...then sent to the FCC who approved my application
and granted my Amateur Extra class license on 7 Mar 07.

Judge "Roy Bean" Heil doesn't like that. My license was
granted without HIS approval. Tsk, tsk. He should take
that to a higher court and DEMAND a retrial (until I am
proven "guilty")? Sure seems like it.


That's a fine way for the future director of the Roanoke Division to
welcome a fellow amateur into the service. You're just the kind of
amateur we need in the leadership.

Maybe the Roanoke Division is like that. I don't know. NOT
my territory. If that is the kind of "welcome" a new US
radio amateur gets there, it is a wonder they have ANY new
amateurs in that Division.

I care less of what another "Division" does. I am a resident
of California, the most populous of the USA and also with the
most US amateur radio licensees. I've not gotten Heil's
"treatment" of newcomers out here, but rather the opposite.
I enjoy that in-person and on the air. I'm not ready to visit
the land of the east coasties with their aloof, I-am-your-
superior-and-rule-over-you attitude. :-(

Fuggem say I.

73, Len AF6AY

AF6AY wrote:
From: on 8 Apr 2007 08:32:35 -0700

Subject: The First Month of the Revolution in USA Amateur Radio

On Apr 7, 2:25 am, Dave Heil wrote:
AF6AY wrote:
Tsk, Brian, there ain't NO booze, branch water, or aqvavit to
make Davey say such a thing without the adjective of
"neophyte," "beginner" or whatever he needs to PUT DOWN
OTHERS he no like! :-)
I'm sorry that you don't like it, Len, but you are a beginner or
neophyte in amateur radio. You're just getting started. You're just
getting your feet wet.
Don't worry, you'll get the hang of it.
73, Len AF6AY [Extra Out Of The Box!]
...after a delay of seven long years. "Right out of the box" never took place.

FACTUAL ERROR by Heil!

"Extra Out Of The Box" is a colloquial phrase referring to
one who takes ALL test elements at one test session and
passes all of them. That is what I did on 25 Feb 07.

Please look at my direct quote of your words:

"Extra right out of the box". Please note the word "right" which
appears before the words "out of the box." If you hadn't written that
particular word, you might be able to make a case. The word "right"
exists however. Now you have a problem. Your quote comes from over
seven years in the past. Your passing of amateur radio exams was on
February 25th of this years. That's nor "right out" of anything.


Judge "Roy Bean" Heil doesn't like that.

I don't like your playing fast and loose with fact, Foghorn.


That's a fine way for the future director of the Roanoke Division to
welcome a fellow amateur into the service. You're just the kind of
amateur we need in the leadership.

Maybe the Roanoke Division is like that.

Do you know what geographical areas make up the Roanoke Division, Len?
As a new licensee and a new League member, you've probably not had much
time to learn about the various ARRL Divisions.

I don't know.

I have little trouble believing that.

NOT
my territory.

So you've apparently learned that you do not live in the Roanoke Division.

If that is the kind of "welcome" a new US
radio amateur gets there, it is a wonder they have ANY new
amateurs in that Division.

I think you'd find that folks who are warm and friendly receive a warm
and friendly welcome. Those who are not warm and friendly might not
receive a warm and friendly welcome. You may find that to be true in
your Division.

I care less of what another "Division" does.

I see a problem with your attitude, Len. You don't want to get off on
the wrong foot.

I am a resident
of California, the most populous of the USA and also with the
most US amateur radio licensees.

Okay, you know what state you're in. Do you know your ARRL Division
yet? Have you found out in which Section you reside?

I've not gotten Heil's
"treatment" of newcomers out here, but rather the opposite.

Give 'em time to get to know you, Len. They're probably just being polite.

I enjoy that in-person and on the air.

That's nice.

I'm not ready to visit
the land of the east coasties with their aloof, I-am-your-
superior-and-rule-over-you attitude. :-(

West Virginia has no coastline, Len. It is not a northern state. Some
try to call it a mid-Atlantic state, but it isn't on the Atlantic. Most
of the northern panhandle is northern in attitude. The bulk of the
state is southern in attitude and by inclination. West Virginia is the
northernmost state in the Roanoke Division of the ARRL.

If you ever come for a visit, I'll keep mum on your r.r.a.p. attitudes.
When you open your mouth and start talking, you're on your own. Keep
that massive wedgie I told you about in the back of your mind.

Fuggem say I.

....but not to their faces.

Dave K8MN

wrote:

That's a fine way for the future director of the Roanoke Division to
welcome a fellow amateur into the service.

I don't recall announcing that I was running for League elected office
in any capacity.

I hope you'll work on your reading skills, hot-ham-and-cheese.

Dave K8MN