From: on 8 Apr 2007 08:47:20 -0700

Subject: What Revolution?

On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, wrote:
On Apr 3, 1:34?pm, "AF6AY" wrote:
On Mar 29, 6:24?pm, Dave Heil wrote a typical
warm, wonderful "welcome" message of:

Well, Len, you're just reaping what you've sown.

Jim, when life appears to be treating you unfairly, it isn't. You just
reap what you sow.

Hmmm...despite the slightly-hidden pun in there ("sow" & ham),
I put them down as "tailors" busy, busy manufacturing things
out of whole cloth. It is (to me) more like "they rape what
they have sewn."


? ?Ah, but I DID have those experiences, proven by several
? ?publicly-accessible references and documented
? ?licenses. ?:-)

Has anyone doubted that, Len?

[yes, a few have, notably Heil who once said "you never did
that in your life!"]

Is that an admission that you believe it?

Tsk, Brian, IF and only IF he does, it will truly be His
Resurrection!


? ?Tsk, that seems to **** off some "club call" collectors
? ?and civilian government service "careerists." ? :-)

Is there something wrong with being in government service for a couple
of decades?

As long as it doesn't lead to a case of pompousness, as with Heil.

Heil's assignments were given by him as 1985 to 2000, a term
of 15 years, NOT "a couple of decades."

Hello? Can anyone see FACTUAL ERROR on Jimmie's part?


Does having been granted a Commercial radiotelephone
operator license 51 years ago NOT count?

Count for what, Len?

What do you think it should count for, when the subject is amateur
radio?

Welp, according to Heil, he was able to bypass military comms training
as he held an amateur license. He was DDA.

Is that the same as "DOA?" [Heil is dead in the water most
of the time with his attitude...]


Amateur radio is the only way to get *amateur radio* experience,
Len.

You've got plenty of that, Jim. Probably more than a 4 year old
Extra.

Right...according to these amateur professionals, AMATEUR
radio does NOT work the same as all other radio. It is
"different" and can never be compared to other radio. It's
experience is totally different. Uh huh...


Do you think you know more about amateur radio than someone who has
been an active radio amateur for several decades?

What's to know? Please start a list.

Jimmie should WRITE A BOOK, maybe a whole set of volumes
on his life and times in amateur radio, pioneering the
airwaves of the 1980s with his morse code modes. Here's
a suggested working title "200 Meters and Sideways."

If the ARRL doesn't resell it, he can work it up as a
promo of a recent motion picture...or get on a Jay Leno
show in another morse v. cell-phone-text contest.


And a couple of weeks as a licensed radio amateur. That makes you an
amateur radio neophyte, Len. A beginner, novice, newcomer, wet-behind-
the-ears tyro.Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Right. Are you running for ARRL office as well? Sure sounds like it.

Sigh. Another east coastie, warm and welcoming...but
demanding that I bow down in "respect" to their mighty
macho morsemanship and "years of national service" by
twiddling their paddles and beeping in the cause of
"homeland security."

Jimmie still thinks that amateur radio works "differently"
than all other radio. Perhaps he thinks that way out of
ignorance in NOT being acquainted with all other radio or
even just parts of all other radio? Maybe he was taught
that in his school (that still thinks it was "first" to
"invent" the "first electronic computer")?


I don't recall that U.S. government regulations REQUIRE
all that CONTACT collection. [looking through Title 47
again...] Nope, NOTHING in the regulations about that...

Doesn't matter.

Neither does half a million 13 second QSO's.

Yes it DOES matter, Brian. By all that "different" amateur
radio, those short QSOs result in life-long friendships
and mutual love between morsemen.

So, nearly a quarter million [transitory] CONTACTS via
amateur radio. What does that prove?

? ?1) Experience?
? ?2) Operating skill?
? ?3) A certain level of activity.?

? ?I suspect that you are jealous of K8MN, Len.?

He's merely annoying. He knows everything - just ask him.

Jimmie is merely annoying with his little "game" of adding
in question marks that were never written originally. I
just did the same thing to him. Pointless exercise. Done
to point out how petty and narrow-minded he is in his spite.


The capability of
making lots of [transitory] contacts? ?Yes, but doing so
many is little more than accumulating some self-logged
contacts that take a relatively long time to ascertain.

? ?I have no idea what that is supposed to mean.?

There are collectors who have amassed great quantities
of pennies, string, and other items.

? ?Not the same thing at all.?

Beer can tabs, navel lint, etc.

QSL cards over a whole wall...another wall filled with
certificates of great (amateur) accomplishments...yet
another wall filled with photographs (posed photo-ops)
of him with other ham notables...fourth wall stacked
with old, yellowing copies of QST going back longer than
he has lived. Marker lines on the floor so that "friends
and neighbors" know where to stand when "admiring his
accomplishments."


? ?If Len Anderson wants to pretend that he is part of some revolution, let
? ?him play.

Tsk, tsk, I *AM* part of the revolution... :-)

? ?What "revolution", Len?
? ?It's been about six weeks since the rules change, and?
? ?there hasn't been any tremendous increase in the number?
? ?of new hams nor a huge number of upgrades. Yes, there?
? ?have been more than in previous months but it's hardly?
? ?enough to be a "revolution".?

Must the revolution be in numbers? This revolution is in the
regulations.

Brian, it hasn't sunk into his morsemen's mind yet.

Morsemen's minds are too cluttered with beeps to get
the picture of more complex subjects...at least until
a Dave Sumner "editorial" explains it all to them in
QST.


? ?Let's see...you bought some manufactured equipment,?
? ?put together a basic station, and made a few contacts?
? ?using voice modes like SSB and FM. How "revolutionary"?
? ?is that??

He did it on HF without a single morse code exam.

On VHF first (the discone was up first), then on HF. :-)

What ****es Jimmie off is that I took and passed ALL
the test elements at one exam session...without asking
for His Permission, too!

"Extra out of the box!" Heil says I "didn't do it,"
yet I did. Sunnuvagun!


? ?Nothing wrong with it as long as you follow the rules and?
? ?good *amateur radio* practice, but it's hardly a?
? ?revolution.?

Hmmmm? "Good Amateur Practice." Some of your Cronies have a hard
time with that one.

His Cronies only know morsemanship. To them, morsemanship
is the ONLY "good amateur practice." Ptui.


Marie, I know you want to give cake to the peasants, but
don't lose your head in excoriating them...

? ?Are you one of the peasants, Len? ? ?You act more?
? ?like you are one of the arrogant nobility.?

Len, nobility? He's merely your peer... your equal.

ONLY in amateur radio, Brian...as far as all the privileges,
rank, status, etc., which must REALLY **** him off! :-)

Brian, like you, I've voluntarily served the US military;
Jimmie never did that. I've worked in radio-electronics
full-time since 1952; we don't know where Jimmie is
supposed to work or what it is he really does for a living.
You have a good family and children and I have a good wife
who was my high school sweetheart; we don't know anything
about Jimmie's personal life except that he has a younger
brother "into radio." Is Jimmie Greater or Lesser than
any of us? We don't know enough about Him to compare.

Jimmie PRETENDS to be a "Somebody." Like an "amateur radio
historian," pretending to be the olde-tymer, all the while
cribbing from OTHER sources of ham radio history. Jimmie
PRETENDS to be a real estate "expert" yet he has never dealt
up-close-and-personal with any real estate matters in my
city or neighborhood...yet he wants to imply He knows more
and is therefore the 'superior being' on that. Jimmie
PRETENDS to be a statistical archivist with his amateur radio
numbers posting...yet those numbers are the SAME as what the
ARRL posts plus his own commentary (7 years old) about the
"difference between Techs and Tech Plusses."

I don't PRETEND anything. I have opinions and am not scared
to voice them. My work experience AND radio licensing is
public record if anyone cares to look for it...and I DO have
documented evidence to prove that (unlike The Robesin).
But, some of the olde-tyme morsemen want to PUT DOWN those
that don't share their lofty, god-given opinions. They
don't take kindly to such folk and manage to pollute this
newsgroup with their "I am better than you" bragging. I
didn't decide to get into amateur radio on Their terms and
wouldn't want to personally associate with such narrow-
minded, arrogant persons. Amateur radio is, to me, much
more than morsemanship and something to enjoy by itself,
not a vehicle for morsepersons to engage in self-
aggrandizement.

73s, Len AF6AY