Dave Heil wrote:

...
seven years in the past. Your passing of amateur radio exams was on
February 25th of this years. That's nor "right out" of anything.
...

I'd say he said what he was going to do, and when code got out of the
way, he did what he said ...

Anyway you cut it, you just can't do better than that!

Now, all that is left is for the old women to bitch and pee their panties!

JS

wrote:
On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, wrote:
On Apr 3, 1:34?pm, "AF6AY" wrote:

On Mar 29, 6:24?pm, Dave Heil wrote a typical
warm, wonderful "welcome" message of:
Well, Len, you're just reaping what you've sown.

Jim, when life appears to be treating you unfairly, it isn't. You just
reap what you sow.

I wish you guys would start choosing your words more carefully. You'll
have Mark accusing both of you of promoting *reap*.

? ?Does having been granted a Commercial radiotelephone
? ?operator license 51 years ago NOT count? ?

Count for what, Len?

What do you think it should count for, when the subject is amateur
radio?

Welp, according to Heil, he was able to bypass military comms training
as he held an amateur license. He was DDA.

You continue to misquote me. My amateur radio license gave me the
knowledge to pass the Bypassed Specialist exams. Passing the exams
allowed me to bypass tech school.

Of course it
? ?"doesn't count" sinc AMATEUR RADIO is the ONLY WAY
? ?one can "get experience" according to the snipers and
? ?general cat-callers.

Amateur radio is the only way to get *amateur radio* experience,
Len.

You've got plenty of that, Jim. Probably more than a 4 year old
Extra.

You're right, Brian. Jim has forty years of amateur radio experience.
Len has a few weeks at best.

Do you think you know more about amateur radio than someone who has
been an active radio amateur for several decades?

What's to know? Please start a list.

You've held a license for at least a couple of decades. Shouldn't you
have an inkling by now?

And a couple of weeks as a licensed radio amateur. That makes you an
amateur radio neophyte, Len. A beginner, novice, newcomer, wet-behind-
the-ears tyro.Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Right. Are you running for ARRL office as well? Sure sounds like it.

What do you mean "as well?" Do you know someone who is running for an
ARRL elected position?


I suspect that you are jealous of K8MN, Len.

He's merely annoying. He knows everything - just ask him.

I will. Len, do you know everything?


Let's see...you bought some manufactured equipment,
put together a basic station, and made a few contacts
using voice modes like SSB and FM. How "revolutionary"
is that?

He did it on HF without a single morse code exam.

Vive le revolucion!


Are you one of the peasants, Len? You act more
like you are one of the arrogant nobility.

Len, nobility? He's merely your peer... your equal.

I can't see how that works, Brian. Len is a guy who became a brand new
radio amateur a few weeks ago.

Dave K8MN

wrote:

That's a fine way for the future director of the Roanoke Division to
welcome a fellow amateur into the service.

I don't recall announcing that I was running for League elected office
in any capacity.

I hope you'll work on your reading skills, hot-ham-and-cheese.

Dave K8MN

John Smith I wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

...
seven years in the past. Your passing of amateur radio exams was on
February 25th of this years. That's nor "right out" of anything.
...

I'd say he said what he was going to do, and when code got out of the
way, he did what he said ...

Then you don't see it clearly. Len didn't do anything "right out of"
any box. Len waited for seven years and a reg change. He also
maintained that his self-appointed advocacy was *not* for his own
benefit, but for the benefit of others. Heh.

Dave K8MN

On Apr 9, 2:05 am, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, wrote:
On Apr 3, 1:34?pm, "AF6AY" wrote:

On Mar 29, 6:24?pm, Dave Heil wrote a typical
warm, wonderful "welcome" message of:
Well, Len, you're just reaping what you've sown.

Jim, when life appears to be treating you unfairly, it isn't. You just
reap what you sow.

I wish you guys would start choosing your words more carefully. You'll
have Mark accusing both of you of promoting *reap*.

Ha! Dave makes a funny about Robesin's accusations of rape. Great
subject to joke about.

? ?Does having been granted a Commercial radiotelephone
? ?operator license 51 years ago NOT count? ?
Count for what, Len?

What do you think it should count for, when the subject is amateur
radio?

Welp, according to Heil, he was able to bypass military comms training
as he held an amateur license. He was DDA.

You continue to misquote me.

I see no quote.

My amateur radio license gave me the
knowledge to pass the Bypassed Specialist exams.

Wrong. False. The knowledge comes before the license, otherwise how
could you have passed the amateur exam?

Passing the exams
allowed me to bypass tech school.

So you really did bypass military comms training? Exactly how did I
"misquote" you?

Of course it
? ?"doesn't count" sinc AMATEUR RADIO is the ONLY WAY
? ?one can "get experience" according to the snipers and
? ?general cat-callers.
Amateur radio is the only way to get *amateur radio* experience,
Len.

You've got plenty of that, Jim. Probably more than a 4 year old
Extra.

You're right, Brian. Jim has forty years of amateur radio experience.
Len has a few weeks at best.

I'm sure he'll catsup quick.

Do you think you know more about amateur radio than someone who has
been an active radio amateur for several decades?

What's to know? Please start a list.

You've held a license for at least a couple of decades. Shouldn't you
have an inkling by now?

You're 59...

And a couple of weeks as a licensed radio amateur. That makes you an
amateur radio neophyte, Len. A beginner, novice, newcomer, wet-behind-
the-ears tyro.Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Right. Are you running for ARRL office as well? Sure sounds like it.

What do you mean "as well?" Do you know someone who is running for an
ARRL elected position?

You've announced a run for the Roanoke Division Directorship.

I suspect that you are jealous of K8MN, Len.

He's merely annoying. He knows everything - just ask him.

I will. Len, do you know everything?

Let's see...you bought some manufactured equipment,
put together a basic station, and made a few contacts
using voice modes like SSB and FM. How "revolutionary"
is that?

He did it on HF without a single morse code exam.

Vive le revolucion!

Are you one of the peasants, Len? You act more
like you are one of the arrogant nobility.

Len, nobility? He's merely your peer... your equal.

I can't see how that works, Brian. Len is a guy who became a brand new
radio amateur a few weeks ago.

Dave K8MN

Len is a guy who holds an Extra license. What class of license do you
hold? ...does Jim hold?

Best of Luck

On Apr 7, 6:57 am, "KH6HZ" wrote:
wrote in message
What exactly is a "collitch" instructor?

You might want to ask one. I suggest a Hawaiin CG lecturer who loans
his PO Box to miscreants.

I do not know anyone in Hawaii who fits that bill. However, when I'm back in
Pataskala this July I can ask around and see if folk there know anyone in
the surrounding communities who does.

Will you be lecturing on GMDSS?

wrote:
On Apr 9, 2:05 am, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, wrote:
On Apr 3, 1:34?pm, "AF6AY" wrote:
On Mar 29, 6:24?pm, Dave Heil wrote a typical
warm, wonderful "welcome" message of:
Well, Len, you're just reaping what you've sown.
Jim, when life appears to be treating you unfairly, it isn't. You just
reap what you sow.
I wish you guys would start choosing your words more carefully. You'll
have Mark accusing both of you of promoting *reap*.

Ha! Dave makes a funny about Robesin's accusations of rape. Great
subject to joke about.

? ?Does having been granted a Commercial radiotelephone
? ?operator license 51 years ago NOT count? ?
Count for what, Len?
What do you think it should count for, when the subject is amateur
radio?
Welp, according to Heil, he was able to bypass military comms training
as he held an amateur license. He was DDA.
You continue to misquote me.

I see no quote.

You used the words "according to Heil". I never made such a statement.
You are in error.

My amateur radio license gave me the
knowledge to pass the Bypassed Specialist exams.

Wrong. False. The knowledge comes before the license, otherwise how
could you have passed the amateur exam?

The Bypassed Specialist exam was not an amateur radio exam. A number of
individuals here have pointed out that an amateur radio license is only
the beginning.

Passing the exams
allowed me to bypass tech school.

So you really did bypass military comms training? Exactly how did I
"misquote" you?

You misquoted me when you wrote "according to Heil" and follow it with
something I've not stated. The Air Force did not provide a pass on
training because I held an amateur radio license. The Air Force allowed
me to skip Tech School because I passed the Bypassed Specialist exam.

Of course it
? ?"doesn't count" sinc AMATEUR RADIO is the ONLY WAY
? ?one can "get experience" according to the snipers and
? ?general cat-callers.

Amateur radio is the only way to get *amateur radio* experience,
Len.

You've got plenty of that, Jim. Probably more than a 4 year old
Extra.

You're right, Brian. Jim has forty years of amateur radio experience.
Len has a few weeks at best.

I'm sure he'll catsup quick.

He'll have forty years experience in forty years.

Do you think you know more about amateur radio than someone who has
been an active radio amateur for several decades?

What's to know? Please start a list.

You've held a license for at least a couple of decades. Shouldn't you
have an inkling by now?

You're 59...

That's the sum total of knowledge you've acquired since you obtained an
amateur radio license?

And a couple of weeks as a licensed radio amateur. That makes you an
amateur radio neophyte, Len. A beginner, novice, newcomer, wet-behind-
the-ears tyro.Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Right. Are you running for ARRL office as well? Sure sounds like it.

What do you mean "as well?" Do you know someone who is running for an
ARRL elected position?

You've announced a run for the Roanoke Division Directorship.

No, Brian, I have not.

I suspect that you are jealous of K8MN, Len.

He's merely annoying. He knows everything - just ask him.

I will. Len, do you know everything?

Let's see...you bought some manufactured equipment,
put together a basic station, and made a few contacts
using voice modes like SSB and FM. How "revolutionary"
is that?

He did it on HF without a single morse code exam.

Vive le revolucion!

Are you one of the peasants, Len? You act more
like you are one of the arrogant nobility.

Len, nobility? He's merely your peer... your equal.

I can't see how that works, Brian. Len is a guy who became a brand new
radio amateur a few weeks ago.

Len is a guy who holds an Extra license. What class of license do you
hold? ...does Jim hold?

Oh, Len holds a license of the same class. He's been a radio amateur
for several weeks. He's green. Despite the tenor of some of his posts,
he's a novice in amateur radio. He's just begun.

Best of Luck

Well, thanks for the kind wishes, Brian. Maybe you'll want to wish Len
some luck in his venture into the world of amateur radio.

Dave K8MN

wrote:
On Apr 9, 2:05 am, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, wrote:
On Apr 3, 1:34?pm, "AF6AY" wrote:
On Mar 29, 6:24?pm, Dave Heil wrote a typical
warm, wonderful "welcome" message of:

Well, Len, you're just reaping what you've sown.

Jim, when life appears to be treating you unfairly, it isn't. You just
reap what you sow.

I wish you guys would start choosing your words more carefully. You'll
have Mark accusing both of you of promoting *reap*.

Ha! Dave makes a funny about Robesin's accusations of rape.

No, Brian, I made no reference to anyone called "Robesin", nor did I
mention the word "rape".

Great subject to joke about.

The joke was not about rape. The joke was about one of the great
manglers of language, a person who is a perpetual "victum".

Dave K8MN

John Smith I wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

...
You continue to misquote me. My amateur radio license gave me the
knowledge to pass the Bypassed Specialist exams. Passing the exams
allowed me to bypass tech school.
...

And, you fixation with morse has allowed life to bypass 'ya!

Life has in no way bypassed me, "John". Amateur radio is not the sum
total of my existence. Within amateur radio, I am free to use any mode
of operation available to me. You, it seems, are limited in your choices.

It is evident from your postings that it was never about the Morse test
with you. You take it far beyond testing.

Dave K8MN

On Apr 9, 1:52 am, John Smith I wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

...

seven years in the past. Your passing of amateur radio exams was on
February 25th of this years. That's nor "right out" of anything.
...

I'd say he said what he was going to do, and when code got out of the
way, he did what he said ...

Anyway you cut it, you just can't do better than that!

Now, all that is left is for the old women to bitch and pee their panties!

JS

They're bitchin an peein..