On Apr 9, 1:05 pm, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 9, 2:05 am, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, wrote:
On Apr 3, 1:34?pm, "AF6AY" wrote:
On Mar 29, 6:24?pm, Dave Heil wrote a typical
warm, wonderful "welcome" message of:
Well, Len, you're just reaping what you've sown.
Jim, when life appears to be treating you unfairly, it isn't. You just
reap what you sow.
I wish you guys would start choosing your words more carefully. You'll
have Mark accusing both of you of promoting *reap*.

Ha! Dave makes a funny about Robesin's accusations of rape. Great
subject to joke about.

? ?Does having been granted a Commercial radiotelephone
? ?operator license 51 years ago NOT count? ?
Count for what, Len?
What do you think it should count for, when the subject is amateur
radio?
Welp, according to Heil, he was able to bypass military comms training
as he held an amateur license. He was DDA.
You continue to misquote me.

I see no quote.

You used the words "according to Heil". I never made such a statement.
You are in error.

Yes I did, but that is no substitute for a quote.

My amateur radio license gave me the
knowledge to pass the Bypassed Specialist exams.

Wrong. False. The knowledge comes before the license, otherwise how
could you have passed the amateur exam?

The Bypassed Specialist exam was not an amateur radio exam.

So how could it be that your amateur radio knowledge was useful in
passing such a non-amateur radio exam?

A number of
individuals here have pointed out that an amateur radio license is only
the beginning.

If the exam is only the beginning, then multiple exams and multiple
license classes are superfluous. A number of individuals here have
pointed that out.

Passing the exams
allowed me to bypass tech school.

So you really did bypass military comms training? Exactly how did I
"misquote" you?

You misquoted me when you wrote "according to Heil" and follow it with
something I've not stated.

Yet it is what you did.

The Air Force did not provide a pass on
training because I held an amateur radio license. The Air Force allowed
me to skip Tech School because I passed the Bypassed Specialist exam.

Yet in your own words, you were able to pass that exam because of
amateur radio knowledge...

You sure do like to twist things up and smoke them.

Of course it
? ?"doesn't count" sinc AMATEUR RADIO is the ONLY WAY
? ?one can "get experience" according to the snipers and
? ?general cat-callers.
Amateur radio is the only way to get *amateur radio* experience,
Len.
You've got plenty of that, Jim. Probably more than a 4 year old
Extra.
You're right, Brian. Jim has forty years of amateur radio experience.
Len has a few weeks at best.

I'm sure he'll catsup quick.

He'll have forty years experience in forty years.

Poor Dave has to maintain that edge of superiority.

Do you think you know more about amateur radio than someone who has
been an active radio amateur for several decades?
What's to know? Please start a list.
You've held a license for at least a couple of decades. Shouldn't you
have an inkling by now?

You're 59...

That's the sum total of knowledge you've acquired since you obtained an
amateur radio license?

What? You don't like standardized replies that allow for 13 second
QSOs?

And a couple of weeks as a licensed radio amateur. That makes you an
amateur radio neophyte, Len. A beginner, novice, newcomer, wet-behind-
the-ears tyro.Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Right. Are you running for ARRL office as well? Sure sounds like it.
What do you mean "as well?" Do you know someone who is running for an
ARRL elected position?

You've announced a run for the Roanoke Division Directorship.

No, Brian, I have not.

Perhaps it was only wishful typing when you posted your run?

I suspect that you are jealous of K8MN, Len.
He's merely annoying. He knows everything - just ask him.
I will. Len, do you know everything?

Let's see...you bought some manufactured equipment,
put together a basic station, and made a few contacts
using voice modes like SSB and FM. How "revolutionary"
is that?
He did it on HF without a single morse code exam.
Vive le revolucion!
Are you one of the peasants, Len? You act more
like you are one of the arrogant nobility.
Len, nobility? He's merely your peer... your equal.
I can't see how that works, Brian. Len is a guy who became a brand new
radio amateur a few weeks ago.
Len is a guy who holds an Extra license. What class of license do you
hold? ...does Jim hold?

Oh, Len holds a license of the same class.

Indeed. Yet the FCC has no requirement for experience. Len has
gained radio experience via a lifetime of operating in other
services. Weren't you the one who said that amateur experience
allowed you to bypass military comms school?

He's been a radio amateur
for several weeks. He's green. Despite the tenor of some of his posts,
he's a novice in amateur radio. He's just begun.

You're the one who's green - with envy...

Best of Luck

Well, thanks for the kind wishes, Brian. Maybe you'll want to wish Len
some luck in his venture into the world of amateur radio.

Dave K8MN

Sure.