On Apr 11, 3:33�pm, wrote:
On 11 Apr 2007 16:20:45 -0700, "AF6AY" wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:27:14 GMT
AF6AY wrote:
From: on 10 Apr 2007 03:56:54 -0700
On Apr 9, 1:05 pm, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 9, 2:05 am, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, wrote:
On Apr 3, 1:34?pm, "AF6AY" wrote:
On Mar 29, 6:24?pm, Dave Heil wrote a typical

Words and their meanings are important, Len. *Hot-ham-and-cheese wrote
"according to Heil..." except that it wasn't according to me at all.

* Somebody else writes your posts here?

would n't that be an improvement in most cases

WE will never know, Mark. :-)

You wrote that you obtained an Extra out of the box, but you keeping
trying to skip over the word "right". *You used it when you told us that
you were going for an "Extra right out the box."

* Tsk. *The phrase "Extra [right] Out Of The Box" is a colloquial
* amateur radio one referring to one who takes and passes ALL
* test elements in one exam session. *It was used BEFORE the
* 2000 US amateur radio Restructuring.

and given it was Your statement Len obviously you are the most unlike
one to know it means (unless we go deep Pych terms of terms

for myself I never doubted that assuming as occured we both lived long
enough to see the end of Code testing that I would see you in short
order as Ham and possible an extra given tha mount of BS in the
combined question sort the frew prevelegdes of the several classes I
did have some dout youd make in one test session

I was worng about that

Hey, no sweat, Mark. I didn't decide until February 17, 2007, seeing
a very local test session available on February 25; I was busy with
other things on Friday the 23rd. For me it was just "cram time"
just like college days or the impossible-to-do-in-assigned-time-
frame work assignments...download the QPs from www.ncvec.org,
do a bunch of on-line practice tests (all of passing grades).

The FCC license grant was legal on 7 March 2007, taking just two
days more than my First 'Phone grant of March 1956...back in
days when there was NO privatized testing and I had to go 90
miles into the Chicago FCC Field Office to take all four test
elements for that. While "airmail" was quick back then, there
wasn't any relatively-inexpensive "overnight delivery" services.


I surely did, Len, but not 24/7. *I maxed out at ten hours per day, six
days per week.

* Poor baby. *Was the service rough on you?

* In the US Army all are soldiers...those not on authorized leave
* are ON DUTY 24/7.

yep and likely to be wgo from sleeping to work in a mater of seconds

True, but veteran battle-hardened, "I was in a country AT war" Heil
won't comment on that. He "maxed-out" on only 10 hours per
day, poor baby. I once worked 34 hours at a stretch on an
emergency (military) transmitter repair, breaks only for meals
and nature calls. I've worked 16 to 18 hours at a stretch in
civilian jobs, fortunately not often. Thank you, but I'll take
retirement any day...and the freedom to tell the control freaks
to "up yours" when they get into "command mode." :-)

Heil won't say what his "AFSC" was "a country at war." He
probably is too "maxed out" to admit it? :-)

73, Len AF6AY

AF6AY wrote:
On Apr 11, 3:33�pm, wrote:
On 11 Apr 2007 16:20:45 -0700, "AF6AY" wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:27:14 GMT
AF6AY wrote:
From: on 10 Apr 2007 03:56:54 -0700
On Apr 9, 1:05 pm, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 9, 2:05 am, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, wrote:
On Apr 3, 1:34?pm, "AF6AY" wrote:
On Mar 29, 6:24?pm, Dave Heil wrote a typical
Words and their meanings are important, Len. �Hot-ham-and-cheese wrote
"according to Heil..." except that it wasn't according to me at all.
� Somebody else writes your posts here?
would n't that be an improvement in most cases

WE will never know, Mark. :-)

What a surprise! I have responses from a guy who plays fast and loose
with the meanings of words and another who writes gibberish.


I surely did, Len, but not 24/7. �I maxed out at ten hours per day, six
days per week.
� Poor baby. �Was the service rough on you?
� In the US Army all are soldiers...those not on authorized leave
� are ON DUTY 24/7.
yep and likely to be wgo from sleeping to work in a mater of seconds

True, but veteran battle-hardened, "I was in a country AT war" Heil
won't comment on that.

You're starting to get it!

He "maxed-out" on only 10 hours per
day, poor baby. I once worked 34 hours at a stretch on an
emergency (military) transmitter repair, breaks only for meals
and nature calls.

....but you've never worked 24-hours per day, seven days per week.

I've worked 16 to 18 hours at a stretch in
civilian jobs, fortunately not often.

....but you've never worked 24-hours per day, seven days per week.



Heil won't say what his "AFSC" was "a country at war." He
probably is too "maxed out" to admit it? :-)

Like my DD-214 and copies of my military orders, my AFSC (not MOS) was
never any of your concern. I can tell you that my AFSC was not "a
country at war." :-) :-)

Dave K8MN

From: Dave Heil on Thu, 12 Apr 2007 05:13:47 GMT

AF6AY wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:57:35 GMT

I've told you a number of times that YOU are NOT the FCC and
HAVE NO AUTHORITY over amateur radio.

Are you losing control of yourself, Leonard? I wrote nothing about my
being the FCC.

You ACT like it.

I told you that the FCC does not use the word "hobby" to
define amateur radio. It's a fact!

Incorrect as to everyone's INTERPRETATION of regulations.

Any activity receiving NO MONETARY COMPENSATION is generally
considered as a HOBBY. Of course that could be a CHARITABLE
activity...but the IRS can interpret charitable work as the
equivalent of monetary compensation and demand some tax
payment on that. Amateur Radio MIGHT be considered RELIGIOUS.
Cerainly many are devoted to amateur radio AS IF it were a
religion, especially morse code skill. :-)

What do you define amateur radio as? It can't be "broad-
casting" because that is forbidden in regulations (very
few exceptions there). It can't be for business purposes
because that is not allowed by regulations. Are you
thinking that amateur radio is a national "service?"

The word "service" as used throughout Title 47 C.F.R. is a
regulatory term denoting type and kind of radio activity
being regulated; i.e., Private Land Mobile Radio SERVICE,
Radio Control Radio SERVICE, Citizens Band Radio SERVICE.

The FCC does NOT use the terms "green," "tyro," "beginner,"
"newbie," "neophyte," or "brand new" anywhere in Title 47
C.F.R. (including Part 97) as any sort of "classification" or
other identification of radio amateurs.


But...a long time ago the "amateur community" decided it wanted
(terribly) the RANK-STATUS-PRIVILEGES of multiple classes,
especially the morsemen holding on (with dear life) to their
beloved morse code. The "upper" classes could then look down
(and put down) the "lower" classes in great personal glee.
That seems to be your version of events and it seems that, despite of
reality, you're sticking to it.

It IS reality.

No, Leonard, it is not.

Prove it. Show your work.

In fact, if you'll read your own words, just
down the page, you'll see a guy with a brand new callsign acting as if
he were very conscious of his new found RANK-STATUS-PRIVILEGES.

Tsk. Sarcasm to the Elite code-tested "Extras" who think they
are the hottest snit in town. :-)

I wrote nothing of NOBILITY or God.

You are NOT nobility or God, yet you act as if you were. :-)


So? I took and passed all the test elements for a US amateur
radio license on 25 Feb 07. The FCC (not your royal asshole
self) granted me an AMATEUR EXTRA class license on 7 Mar 07.

So I've noted. I've noted written that I handed you your new license.

"You handed me [any] license?"

GREAT BIG *FACTUAL ERROR* BY HEIL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Well, when you're an unbearable horse's patoot *without* an amateur
radio license and an unbearable horse's patoot *with* an amateur radio
license, it couldn't have been much of a surprise to you.

Tsk, still have that terrible Personality Conflict with unbridled
HATE sticking out all over, ey? Sure looks like it. :-)


I can't actually hear you, Len. Unlike you, I've never ordered anyone
to leave the newsgroup. :-)

You have.


I've never claimed to "work in the FCC."

Quit ACTING like you do. You have NO AUTHORITY in regulating
amateur radio.

I gave you factual information.

Ambiguous misdirection is all WE've seen. What was your AFSC?

*WHAT* did Heil *DO* in Vietnam? Try to be more specific
than "serving his country" or being "in a country at war."

What is it to you, Len? I'm not feeding you information.

You can't tell the truth, can you? FAKES and wanna-be heroes
always use LIES and ambiguous generalities to describe their
past experiences. You fit that syndrome.


I've told you quite DIRECTLY that I've seen what you do with a little
information. You don't have any and I'm not providing it for you.
Now what will you do?

Call you a liar and a fake is what I might do.


You must have missed a bunch of bio material, Len. I worked in
broadcast radio in Miami and Cincinnati, was an outside salesman for a
couple of industrial electronics distributors, played in a traveling
rock band and was ten years with Cincinnati's Big Joe Duskin. You can
even Google Duskin if you like. Don't forget the other classified info:
I worked part-time at Sears as a high schooler and my car is yellow.

Yellow fits.


I made no statement to the time frame in which teletype was used.

Yes you did, in this newsgroup.


What are you going to do NOW, your Grateness? Write Special
Counsel Riley Hollingsworth and demand the FCC take away my
amateur radio license due to "bad attitudes?"

I'm dealing with your attitude this very moment.

Poorly, Grate One. :-)



can't silence my comments...

I can't hear your comments.

Neither can you understand Figures of Speech. :-) Yet you go on
and on about other minutae of English language written words and
phrases AS IF you were a linguistic expert. You are NOT one.


I'm not going to silence you.

You said you "can't hear me." :-)

I'm going to counter you and make you an object of ridicule.

You've tried to do that for years. To little effect... :-)


That doesn't mean there are no beginners in amateur radio. Everyone
with an amateur radio license was a newcomer at some point.

Not the Grate Heil!!! Never! :-)

Only you are trying to deny your beginner status.

"Beginner?" :-)

You're now a neophyte in amateur radio.

The FCC doesn't use "neophyte" anywhere in Title 47 C.F.R.

Do you consider yourself "above" the FCC?


...but not qualifying for the colloquial amateur radio expression "Extra
*right* out of the box."

Tsk, tsk, I've already told you what the colloquial phrase means,
yet you continue to "redefine" it to suit your own hatred.
Naughty, naughty...

I don't want to hang out with you. I don't want you as an on-air pal.
I really don't expect to encounter you on the ham bands.

You certainly sound anti-social. Tsk, tsk.


You know and I know and Jim knows that the 5 wpm Morse Code test had you
beat.

It did? I didn't know that! I quit bothering about morse code
skill a long time ago...didn't make sense to me to keep it so
long just to satisfy some minority amateurs who favored that
mode for federal licensing. The FCC stated publicly in 1990
that the morse code test was not considered a determining
factor for their granting amateur radio licenses...but they had
to follow adminstrative policy by agreeing to ITU amateur radio
regulations ("the treaty" as mislabeled by so many).

Are you saying I could NEVER learn morse code? Tsk, tsk, so
many (morsemen) have said that is EASY!

Are you saying I exhibit "sloth" in "not wanting to learn?"
How could you possibly say that without observing how I
have worked or accomplished in my life? Of course you could
WRITE IT here (no one can hear you scream over the Internet)
but that would be woefully inaccurate.

No, you and Miccolis are carefully phrasing things about me
in a highly negative, derogatory way, intended to insult and
demean. It's always been that way in here. :-)


You got the license the way you could get the license.

Brilliant deduction! Did you spend hours thinking that phrase up?

Tsk, if you have some dispute about my getting an amateur
radio license, you are free to contact the FCC and complain
to them. Mention that I tested with a ARRL VEC examination
team, the ARRL VEC in Newington confirmed that, and forwarded
my test data to the FCC. Mention also your "elite status"
as a supreme authority on amateur radio matters and how you
consider yourself as primary judge and jury over and above
those who disagree with you. That should go over big.



I run into a number of folks who can't do high speed CW and whom I've
never "put down".

Tsk, tsk, you are losing your grip. :-)

Is old age finally getting to you? Amateur structures falling
down and damaging your house? Worked more Frenchmen out of
band?

What was your AFSC?

AF6AY

AF6AY wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Thu, 12 Apr 2007 05:13:47 GMT

AF6AY wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:57:35 GMT

I've told you a number of times that YOU are NOT the FCC and
HAVE NO AUTHORITY over amateur radio.
Are you losing control of yourself, Leonard? I wrote nothing about my
being the FCC.

You ACT like it.

No, Len, I don't. I told you that the FCC does not define amateur radio
as a hobby. That's completely true.

I told you that the FCC does not use the word "hobby" to
define amateur radio. It's a fact!

Incorrect as to everyone's INTERPRETATION of regulations.

If anyone cares to look at Part 97, it can be demonstrated that you are
incorrect.

Any activity receiving NO MONETARY COMPENSATION is generally
considered as a HOBBY.

That's very interesting. Someone who likes to sit on his porch then has
a hobby of porch sitting. A guy who drinks a twelve-pack every evening
is, by your logic, a hobbyist. Heh.

Of course that could be a CHARITABLE
activity...but the IRS can interpret charitable work as the
equivalent of monetary compensation and demand some tax
payment on that.

Wow! If you work for a charity and receive no compensation from that
charity, the IRS can demand payment based on the money you didn't ever
receive? It is indeed a topsy-turvy world.

Amateur Radio MIGHT be considered RELIGIOUS.

The FCC doesn't define it as religious or a hobby.

Cerainly many are devoted to amateur radio AS IF it were a
religion, especially morse code skill. :-)

In my country, people are free to devote as much or as little time as
they like to an activity which is not part of their job. So it is
different where you live?

What do you define amateur radio as?

I'm quite comfortable with the FCC definition.

It can't be "broad-
casting" because that is forbidden in regulations (very
few exceptions there).

I've never called amateur radio "broadcasting."

It can't be for business purposes
because that is not allowed by regulations.

I've never called amateur radio "business."

Are you
thinking that amateur radio is a national "service?"

I'm quite comfortable with the FCC definition of amateur radio.

The word "service" as used throughout Title 47 C.F.R. is a
regulatory term denoting type and kind of radio activity
being regulated; i.e., Private Land Mobile Radio SERVICE,
Radio Control Radio SERVICE, Citizens Band Radio SERVICE.

I'm aware of that. Why don't you tell me something that I don't already
know?

The FCC does NOT use the terms "green," "tyro," "beginner,"
"newbie," "neophyte," or "brand new" anywhere in Title 47
C.F.R. (including Part 97) as any sort of "classification" or
other identification of radio amateurs.

That's "cerainly" true, Len. Anyone who is a beginner at anything is
considered a newbie, neophyte, novice, beginner or green. It doesn't
apply only to amateur radio.

But...a long time ago the "amateur community" decided it wanted
(terribly) the RANK-STATUS-PRIVILEGES of multiple classes,
especially the morsemen holding on (with dear life) to their
beloved morse code. The "upper" classes could then look down
(and put down) the "lower" classes in great personal glee.

That seems to be your version of events and it seems that, despite of
reality, you're sticking to it.

It IS reality.

No, Leonard, it is not.

Prove it. Show your work.

The burden would be upon you to show that is is reality.

In fact, if you'll read your own words, just
down the page, you'll see a guy with a brand new callsign acting as if
he were very conscious of his new found RANK-STATUS-PRIVILEGES.

Tsk. Sarcasm to the Elite code-tested "Extras" who think they
are the hottest snit in town. :-)

Double tsk. I don't think I'm the hottest "snit" in this or any other
town. I'm just a guy with forty-three years more experience in amateur
radio than you. That's a fact.

Just how long have you had this idea that you are NOBILITY?

Did God give that to you or did you develop it on your own?

I wrote nothing of NOBILITY or God.

You are NOT nobility or God, yet you act as if you were. :-)

I wrote nothing of NOBILITY or God.


So? I took and passed all the test elements for a US amateur
radio license on 25 Feb 07. The FCC (not your royal asshole
self) granted me an AMATEUR EXTRA class license on 7 Mar 07.

So I've noted. I've noted written that I handed you your new license.

"You handed me [any] license?"

GREAT BIG *FACTUAL ERROR* BY HEIL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nope, just a typo. Read "I've not written..." Please continue your rant.


Well, when you're an unbearable horse's patoot *without* an amateur
radio license and an unbearable horse's patoot *with* an amateur radio
license, it couldn't have been much of a surprise to you.

Tsk, still have that terrible Personality Conflict with unbridled
HATE sticking out all over, ey? Sure looks like it. :-)

I don't think about you often enough to hate you, Len. I've provided my
opinion that you're an unbearable horse's patoot with or without an
amateur radio license.

I can't actually hear you, Len. Unlike you, I've never ordered anyone
to leave the newsgroup. :-)

You have.

No, Len, you've made another factual error.

...can't change my mind.

You've done that on your own on a number of occasions. :-)

Ergo, YOU MUST RULE. Sorry,
you DO NOT rule. You don't even work in the FCC.

I've never claimed to "work in the FCC." We're in the same boat.
Neither of us works for the FCC.

Quit ACTING like you do.

I'm not ACTING like I "work in the FCC", Len.

You have NO AUTHORITY in regulating
amateur radio.

I've claimed no Federal authority, Len.

I gave you factual information.

Ambiguous misdirection is all WE've seen.

We? Do you have a Vibroplex in your pocket? I gave you factual
information without a hint of misdirection.

What was your AFSC?

Just a day or two ago, you thought it was an MOS. I told you that it's
none of your business then.

*WHAT* did Heil *DO* in Vietnam? Try to be more specific
than "serving his country" or being "in a country at war."

What is it to you, Len? I'm not feeding you information.

You can't tell the truth, can you?

I surely can tell you the truth, Len. The truth is that I'm not feeding
you information. I could provide you the information you seek but I'm
not doing so.

FAKES and wanna-be heroes
always use LIES and ambiguous generalities to describe their
past experiences.

I'm not a military FAKE, Len. I've not lied. I've not claimed any
heroics. I've just not provided you with the information you seek.
Now what will you do?

You fit that syndrome.

You're badly mistaken.

I've told you quite DIRECTLY that I've seen what you do with a little
information. You don't have any and I'm not providing it for you.
Now what will you do?

Call you a liar and a fake is what I might do.

Then we'd have two more factual errors that you would have made. A man
can't be called a liar when he has made no claims. A man can't be
called a fake when he has made no claims. You have a dilemma.

I'm not that concerned with boy-wonder rock musician turned
"diplomat" that I care to look unless someone sends me the
web addresses.

You must have missed a bunch of bio material, Len. I worked in
broadcast radio in Miami and Cincinnati, was an outside salesman for a
couple of industrial electronics distributors, played in a traveling
rock band and was ten years with Cincinnati's Big Joe Duskin. You can
even Google Duskin if you like. Don't forget the other classified info:
I worked part-time at Sears as a high schooler and my car is yellow.

Yellow fits.

Remember your hissy fit a few days back--the one where you harped on
people you said wouldn't say things to your face that they'd written
here? Remember that I told you that such a description could easily be
applied to you and that if you'd said some of the things to my face that
you'd written here, you'd find yourself the victim of a memorable
wedgie? Your "yellow fits" would be such a statement.

AS IF radio teletype hasn't been used for 50 years before that.

I made no statement to the time frame in which teletype was used.

Yes you did, in this newsgroup.

No, Leonard. None of my comments or statements indicated that Teletype
had not been used in the fifty years before my assignment to
Guinea-Bissau. You're just wrong--again.

What are you going to do NOW, your Grateness? Write Special
Counsel Riley Hollingsworth and demand the FCC take away my
amateur radio license due to "bad attitudes?"

I'm dealing with your attitude this very moment.

Poorly, Grate One. :-)

You aren't tough to handle, Leonid.

can't silence my comments...

I can't hear your comments.

Neither can you understand Figures of Speech. :-)

:-) :-) :-)

Yet you go on
and on about other minutae of English language written words and
phrases AS IF you were a linguistic expert. You are NOT one.

You don't know if I am or if I am not. I'm doing much better with my
native tongue that the self-proclaimed "PROFESSIONAL WRITER."

I'm not going to silence you.

You said you "can't hear me." :-)

There you go! If I can't hear you, I can't silence you. :-) :-)

I'm going to counter you and make you an object of ridicule.

You've tried to do that for years. To little effect... :-)

You should think about that. You certainly lost control of
yourself--and not for the first time. It is plain to see that you enjoy
dishing out the insults and denigrations. You don't like it at all when
someone gets the best of you.

That doesn't mean there are no beginners in amateur radio. Everyone
with an amateur radio license was a newcomer at some point.

Not the Grate Heil!!! Never! :-)

Yes, Len, forty-three years ago, I was a beginner in amateur radio.
Back then, I was both a Novice and a novice.

Only you are trying to deny your beginner status.

"Beginner?" :-)

Yes, Len, you're a beginner in amateur radio. That's a fact.

You're now a neophyte in amateur radio.

The FCC doesn't use "neophyte" anywhere in Title 47 C.F.R.

That doesn't matter. The term applies to a beginner in any endeavor.
Someone who has never played a guitar and who buys one and attempts to
play it, is a beginner. A man who just obtained his first amateur radio
license is a beginner at amateur radio. Live with it.

Do you consider yourself "above" the FCC?

In what way, Leonard? I'm part of "We the people." In that way, I
consider myself above the FCC. Don't you?

...but not qualifying for the colloquial amateur radio expression "Extra
*right* out of the box."

Tsk, tsk, I've already told you what the colloquial phrase means,
yet you continue to "redefine" it to suit your own hatred.
Naughty, naughty...

The continuing is yours. You continue to leave out that word "right"
which precedes the phrase "out of the box" in your vintage boast.

I don't want to hang out with you. I don't want you as an on-air pal.
I really don't expect to encounter you on the ham bands.

You certainly sound anti-social. Tsk, tsk.

You've made a common mistake. If a guy says, "I don't like peach ice
cream", it doesn't mean that the man doesn't like ice cream.

You know and I know and Jim knows that the 5 wpm Morse Code test had you
beat.

It did?

Yes, it did.

I didn't know that!

Yes, you did.

I quit bothering about morse code
skill a long time ago...didn't make sense to me to keep it so
long just to satisfy some minority amateurs who favored that
mode for federal licensing.

You told us that you gave up. You quit. Now you describe it as "I quit
bothering about Morse code..."

The FCC stated publicly in 1990
that the morse code test was not considered a determining
factor for their granting amateur radio licenses...but they had
to follow adminstrative policy by agreeing to ITU amateur radio
regulations ("the treaty" as mislabeled by so many).

What about it? It was a requirement for obtaining an amateur radio
license until very recently. You "quit bothering" a long, long time ago.

Are you saying I could NEVER learn morse code?

When did you start to learn it? How old are you now?

Tsk, tsk, so
many (morsemen) have said that is EASY!

It was a snap, Len.

Are you saying I exhibit "sloth" in "not wanting to learn?"

You told us that you gave up.

How could you possibly say that without observing how I
have worked or accomplished in my life?

I didn't say you exhibited "sloth". You brought up the term.
As you mention, I didn't observe what you did in your life. I do know
that you told us that you reached a point in learning Morse code where
you simply gave up.

Of course you could
WRITE IT here (no one can hear you scream over the Internet)
but that would be woefully inaccurate.

I think you found learning the Morse code tougher than you thought. Is
that why you gave up on learning it?

No, you and Miccolis are carefully phrasing things about me
in a highly negative, derogatory way, intended to insult and
demean. It's always been that way in here. :-)

You left out "accurate" in your list of carefully phrased things.

You got the license the way you could get the license.

Brilliant deduction! Did you spend hours thinking that phrase up?

It wasn't necessary to stew on it or to mull it over. You were waiting
over seven years back but the FCC only reduced the Morse exam to
f i v e wpm. You waited for another s e v e n years until the Morse
exam went away. You got the license the way you could get the license.
Be proud! You've finally done it. You were "otherwise qualified." You
must have been the guy about whom Carl was writing. You were the
"otherwise qualified" guy.

Tsk, if you have some dispute about my getting an amateur
radio license, you are free to contact the FCC and complain
to them. Mention that I tested with a ARRL VEC examination
team, the ARRL VEC in Newington confirmed that, and forwarded
my test data to the FCC.

I don't have any dispute, Len. You obtained your license under the
regulations currently in place. Be happy!

Mention also your "elite status"
as a supreme authority on amateur radio matters and how you
consider yourself as primary judge and jury over and above
those who disagree with you. That should go over big.

I don't claim any elite status, Len. I'm just not a Lennie-come-lately.

I run into a number of folks who can't do high speed CW and whom I've
never "put down".

Tsk, tsk, you are losing your grip. :-)

Not at all, Len. Most folks I run into as I go about my daily life
don't act the way you act. :-)

Is old age finally getting to you?

I'm not yet old, Len. I plan to be some day.

Amateur structures falling down and damaging your house?

We had some hail recently. It didn't do any damage. I didn't think to
ask if it was professional or amateur hail. Since it came down with no
monetary compensation, it was hobby hail.

Worked more Frenchmen out of band?

Worked *any* Frenchmen, Len?

What was your AFSC?

I'm thinking of a number...


Dave K8MN

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 03:33:48 GMT, Dave Heil
wrote:

AF6AY wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Thu, 12 Apr 2007 05:13:47 GMT

AF6AY wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:57:35 GMT

snip

What do you define amateur radio as?

I'm quite comfortable with the FCC definition.

Personally, I prefer the definition of Amateur Radio provided by the
ARRL, RAC, RSGB (and most other Amateur Radio organizations) - a hobby
activity.

From a regulatory perspective, it is a service provided to the public.
It's what we do with that service that makes it a hobby - and an
excellent one at that!

....although sitting on the porch with a dozen beers may also have some
merit - I'll check that one out this summer :P


snip

73, Leo