He does keep bringing it up, doesn't he?

Dan/W4NTI


Well Dan you know he is an NCI Member, that should have given us a CLUE.

In article , Leo
writes:

Jim,

I think I have the answers to your bonus quiz:

Hanging Fire (or Hang Fire) - an old military term used when a black
powder artillery piece did not immediately fire when the priming
charge was lit (could be a few seconds delay before the main charge
was ignited). Still used in this context whenever modern ammunition
misfires.

Also used in connection with cord-fused explosives in blasting for mining,
tunneling, etc. Hang-fires were one of the reasons for the change to blasting
caps.

Doubling The Hill - this one is probably an old railroad term for the
practice of seperating train cars and taking them up a steep hill in
two runs, back when steam locomotives were common. Insufficient power
to pull the entire train up the hill in one run would have
necessitated this practice.

Give the man a cee-gar!

Sometimes the problem was lack of motive power, but there was also the factor
of coupler strength and rail adhesion.

Modern RRs are well-documented enough know that horsepower and train
characteristics are figured out ahead of time by computers.

73 de Jim, N2EY

These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329
Tech - 205,394
Tech Plus - 128,860
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750
Total - 674,792


As of October 31, 2003:

Novice - 32,939 (decrease of 16,390)
Technician - 257,987 (increase of 52,593)
Technician Plus - 64,302 (decrease of 64,558)
General - 141,315 (increase of 28,638)
Advanced - 82,460 (decrease of 17,322)
Extra - 104,706 (increase of 25,956)
Total - 683,709 (increase of 8,917)

73 de Jim, N2EY

These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329
Tech - 205,394
Tech Plus - 128,860
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750
Total - 674,792


As of November 16, 2003:

Novice - 32,875 (decrease of 16,454)
Technician - 258,433 (increase of 53,039)
Technician Plus - 63,976 (decrease of 64,884)
General - 141,350 (increase of 28,673)
Advanced - 82,323 (decrease of 17,459)
Extra - 104,728 (increase of 25,978)
Total - 683,685 (increase of 8,893)

73 de Jim, N2EY

These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329
Tech - 205,394
Tech Plus - 128,860
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750
Total - 674,792


As of November 30, 2003:

Novice - 32,830 (decrease of 16,499)
Technician - 258,967 (increase of 53,573)
Technician Plus - 63,689 (decrease of 65,171)
General - 141,387 (increase of 28,710)
Advanced - 82,209 (decrease of 17,573)
Extra - 104,750 (increase of 26,000)
Total - 683,832 (increase of 9,040)

73 de Jim, N2EY

N2EY wrote:

These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed:

As of May 14, 2000:



Why select May 14th 2000? Restructuring took effect a month
earlier. I upgraded from tech + to extra on April 15, 2000 and
the paperwork reached the FCC just a few days later the next week.
Thus I would show up as an extra in the May 14th 2000. If your
objective is to show the effects of restructuring, you need to list
the numbers for April14, 2000.

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

N2EY wrote:

These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed:

As of May 14, 2000:



Why select May 14th 2000?

Two reasons:

1) I happened to have those numbers recorded

2) By that date, it's reasonable to expect that all of the backlog from before
the April 15 changes had gone through FCC.

Restructuring took effect a month
earlier. I upgraded from tech + to extra on April 15, 2000 and
the paperwork reached the FCC just a few days later the next week.
Thus I would show up as an extra in the May 14th 2000. If your
objective is to show the effects of restructuring, you need to list
the numbers for April14, 2000.

If you have them, I'll show them.

73 de Jim, N2EY

N2EY wrote:

In article , Robert Casey
writes:



N2EY wrote:



These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed:

As of May 14, 2000:





Why select May 14th 2000?



Two reasons:

1) I happened to have those numbers recorded

2) By that date, it's reasonable to expect that all of the backlog from before
the April 15 changes had gone through FCC.



Restructuring took effect a month
earlier. I upgraded from tech + to extra on April 15, 2000 and
the paperwork reached the FCC just a few days later the next week.
Thus I would show up as an extra in the May 14th 2000. If your
objective is to show the effects of restructuring, you need to list
the numbers for April14, 2000.



If you have them, I'll show them.



Okay, that makes sense, especially reason #2. There would be some
cross leakage, but probably not enough to matter in determining long term
trends.

73s Bob

PS, I don't have the numbers myself, but as you mentioned, they would miss
the backlog of activity before April 15th.

Robert Casey wrote in message ...
N2EY wrote:

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

N2EY wrote:

These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed:

As of May 14, 2000:

Why select May 14th 2000?

Two reasons:

1) I happened to have those numbers recorded

2) By that date, it's reasonable to expect that all of the backlog from before
the April 15 changes had gone through FCC.

Restructuring took effect a month
earlier. I upgraded from tech + to extra on April 15, 2000 and
the paperwork reached the FCC just a few days later the next week.
Thus I would show up as an extra in the May 14th 2000. If your
objective is to show the effects of restructuring, you need to list
the numbers for April14, 2000.


If you have them, I'll show them.


Okay, that makes sense, especially reason #2. There would be some
cross leakage, but probably not enough to matter in determining long term
trends.

Yep. One can look at the AH0A site for monthly numbers as well.

FCC and the various VECs got pretty backlogged around then, too. Some
folks didn't see actual database changes for a few weeks.

PS, I don't have the numbers myself, but as you mentioned, they would miss
the backlog of activity before April 15th.

Yup. I know a bunch of hams who strove to upgrade *before* April 15,
for various reasons (such as getting an Advanced before they were gone
forever).

--

What I find interesting is how *little* the numbers have changed in
almost 4 years. For example, at the end of March, 2000, there were a
little over 103,000 Advanceds. Now there's something over 80,000, even
though the 20 wpm code test is gone. In similar fashion, look how many
Tech Pluses still exist despite the fact that they need never take
another code test, and that many of them already have credit for the
General written as well. And FCC has been renewing Tech Plus as Tech
since April 15, 2000, too.

IOW, perhaps the code test wasn't the "barrier" it was proclaimed to
be.

73 de Jim, N2EY

"N2EY" wrote in message
om...
Robert Casey wrote in message
...
N2EY wrote:

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

N2EY wrote:

These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed:

As of May 14, 2000:

Why select May 14th 2000?

Two reasons:

1) I happened to have those numbers recorded

2) By that date, it's reasonable to expect that all of the backlog from
before
the April 15 changes had gone through FCC.

Restructuring took effect a month
earlier. I upgraded from tech + to extra on April 15, 2000 and
the paperwork reached the FCC just a few days later the next week.
Thus I would show up as an extra in the May 14th 2000. If your
objective is to show the effects of restructuring, you need to list
the numbers for April14, 2000.


If you have them, I'll show them.


Okay, that makes sense, especially reason #2. There would be some
cross leakage, but probably not enough to matter in determining long
term
trends.

Yep. One can look at the AH0A site for monthly numbers as well.

FCC and the various VECs got pretty backlogged around then, too. Some
folks didn't see actual database changes for a few weeks.

PS, I don't have the numbers myself, but as you mentioned, they would
miss
the backlog of activity before April 15th.

Yup. I know a bunch of hams who strove to upgrade *before* April 15,
for various reasons (such as getting an Advanced before they were gone
forever).

What I find interesting is how *little* the numbers have changed in
almost 4 years. For example, at the end of March, 2000, there were a
little over 103,000 Advanceds. Now there's something over 80,000, even
though the 20 wpm code test is gone. In similar fashion, look how many
Tech Pluses still exist despite the fact that they need never take
another code test, and that many of them already have credit for the
General written as well. And FCC has been renewing Tech Plus as Tech
since April 15, 2000, too.

IOW, perhaps the code test wasn't the "barrier" it was proclaimed to
be.

Good thing I never made the argument about code testing
being a barrier. I have always strictly viewed the code test
as simply no longer necessary as a test requirement.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK