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"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
... In article , Dwight Stewart writes: If those with your views continue to deride modern Ham Radio, perhaps even less then 2 percent. Those changes are part of Ham Radio today. If you belittle those changes, you belittle today's Ham Radio. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) Dwight: Belittling ham radio? Moi??? Hmmm, you may have a point there. Now that ham radio licensing requirements in the U.S. have been reduced to insignificance, and are about to be made a whole lot less significant when code testing is abolished, I guess one could make the point that there is a lot "belittleable" about ham radio these days! We are about to start the first "generation" of hams who have never been bothered to learn the Morse code, and will never know the benefits and advantages of the Morse/CW mode from personal operational experience. Now THERE's a perfect example of something that would inspire one to "belittle" ham radio, indeed! 73 de Larry, K3LT I wonder if you realize how incessant your whining is... Kim W5TIT |
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In article , Dave Heil
writes: Disclaimer: "LU3LT" is not my real callsign. In fact, it isn't anyone's real callsign! Larry, You're just going to have to be less pampas. Dave K8MN Dave: Perhaps Dwight knew what he was talking about. Pampas grass is pretty nasty stuff, and perhaps, he was insinuating the same about me. How charming. http://www.nps.gov/redw/pampas.htm 73 de Larry, K3LT |
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In article , "Kim W5TIT"
writes: I wonder if you realize how incessant your whining is... Kim W5TIT As usual, Kim, you stole the words right out from under my fingertips! What I'd like to know is, when are you going to even make an attempt to come up with an original thought? 73 de Larry, K3LT |
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"WA8ULX" wrote:
Cry Whinner CRY. All you CBplussers have left, is your useless attempts to try and Justify your Welfare Status as Hams. All we want to be is an Equal to you real Hams, seems to be all you guys can come up with. Guess what Dwight, it will never happen.You guys have got what you wanted a Dumb Down Service with no effort required. So stop your Damn Whinning and get to the back of the Bus where you belong. If you and Larry are examples of what a real ham is, then I have no problem with being considered something else. And, observing your rudeness and demonstrated ignorance, I have no desire to be your equal. Finally, I don't ride on a bus - there are too many like Larry driving them and too many like you riding as passengers. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ |
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"Kim W5TIT" wrote:
"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote: Belittling ham radio? Moi??? Hmmm, you may have a point there. Now that ham radio licensing requirements in the U.S. have been reduced to insignificance, (snip) I wonder if you realize how incessant your whining is... At this point, I don't think Larry can think of anything else, Kim. I've been reading his negative garbage for four or five years now. The same subjects (code, licensing requirements, and newer hams) are almost always the focus of his messages and those messages are almost always filled with delusions about his own self-importance and insults towards others. I don't know if Larry thinks he's being funny or if he really believes the hatred he spews. Whatever the case, I'm getting real darn tired of it. If he continues with ridicule that includes me as a target, I'm not going to continue to sit back and say nothing. If the majority of respondents in this newsgroup side with him, making him the de facto spokesperson for ham radio and the higher license classes, then perhaps this isn't an activity I wish to continue participating in. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ |
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"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message
.. . "Kim W5TIT" wrote: "Larry Roll K3LT" wrote: Belittling ham radio? Moi??? Hmmm, you may have a point there. Now that ham radio licensing requirements in the U.S. have been reduced to insignificance, (snip) I wonder if you realize how incessant your whining is... At this point, I don't think Larry can think of anything else, Kim. I've been reading his negative garbage for four or five years now. The same subjects (code, licensing requirements, and newer hams) are almost always the focus of his messages and those messages are almost always filled with delusions about his own self-importance and insults towards others. I don't know if Larry thinks he's being funny or if he really believes the hatred he spews. Whatever the case, I'm getting real darn tired of it. If he continues with ridicule that includes me as a target, I'm not going to continue to sit back and say nothing. If the majority of respondents in this newsgroup side with him, making him the de facto spokesperson for ham radio and the higher license classes, then perhaps this isn't an activity I wish to continue participating in. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ Oh goodness, Dwight! That's a lot said right there. BUT, it's *in spite of* the likes of Larry that I like being in the hobby/service of ham radio. And, believe me, Larry really believes what he is saying. He's a desperate, lonely, little man--and his delusions are all he's got. Oh, and by the way. Look real close at who is actually communicating with him on an intellectual level. Nada. Zip. There are people in this newsgroup who get communicated with, and there are people in this newsgroup who get communicated to. Larry is in the latter. For all the times I've ****ed people off, across the board, there are still times when threads have been maintained for a good length of time that involved intellectual debate. Same for you. Same for any of us "antagonizers" as we are affectionately called. But, not for Larry, not for a couple of others. Larry isn't "spewing" anything that sticks; his kind of logic and reasoning are quite in the minority in ham radio. Kim W5TIT |
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Dwight Stewart wrote in message ...
"WA3IYC" wrote: That 52,990 "increase" is not all new license issues. (snip) (snip) How "code proficient" any amateur is cannot be determined from license class alone. Of course, Jim. I clearly stated my numbers were a "rough estimate." What I was getting at is that a test is just one data point. There are hams who passed 20 per once-upon-a-time who would be hard pressed to pass Element 1 today. And there are hams whose testing never exceeded 5 wpm who have gone far beyond 20 wpm. Etc. And the same thing applies to the writtens. They're all just one data point, often decades old. The important point is that the number of US hams is growing at a slow rate. Restructuring did not result in a big change in growth. (snip) True. However, to make something out of that, one has to eliminate all factors outside restructuring. Agreed! There are all sorts of factors - cost of equipment, antenna restrictions, RFI concerns, even competing radio services. Not too many years ago, it was common to encounter hams who had gotten licenses for the express purpose of "honeydew" communications. Today almost all of them have cellphones. In my last message, I hinted at factors such as the attitude of current operators towards those new to ham radio. I hope you mean "the attitude of *some* current operators...." Today's new operator faces more ridicule and harassment than perhaps any new operator in the history of this activity. I don't know about that. Around here, and everywhere else I've lived since becoming a ham 36 years ago, newcomers of all ages, sizes, genders, ethnicities, etc., are welcomed and encouraged, as a general rule. Yes, there are a few sourpusses with negative addytoods. They've been around forever. I can recall comments that Novices were "not real hams" and that my homebrew CW rigs were "not real radios", etc., etc., ad infinitum. Ol' W2OY was well known for his misanthropic "no kids, no lids, no space cadets" tirades. Oddly enough, most of those folks are not hams anymore, but I am. bwaahaahaa.... If you look for and listen to the naysayers and sourpusses, it just encourages them. And lets face it, that new operator is not likely going to invite friends or family members to join after an negative exchange with Larry in this newsgroup (or someone like him here or elsewhere). Sure. But are folks like that the rule or the exception? Clearly, the attitude of current operators has a role to play in the lackluster growth of ham radio today, perhaps even far more than restructuring at this point. True - but consider also the attitudes expressed by a very few newcomers towards experienced amateurs. Should we welcome a newcomer who says all hams are fat and that no EE with self-respect would use Morse code? How about one who insults others' employment, technical knowledge, education, ethnicity, appearance, age, and name? 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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In article , Dwight Stewart
writes: I don't know if Larry thinks he's being funny or if he really believes the hatred he spews. Whatever the case, I'm getting real darn tired of it. If he continues with ridicule that includes me as a target, I'm not going to continue to sit back and say nothing. Dwight: By all means, feel free to say something about it. We're waiting... If the majority of respondents in this newsgroup side with him, making him the de facto spokesperson for ham radio and the higher license classes, then perhaps this isn't an activity I wish to continue participating in. Hey, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out! 73 de Larry, K3LT |
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