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[email protected] December 20th 05 04:35 AM

ARS License Numbers
 
From: Dave Heil on Dec 19, 10:50 am


wrote:
From: on Dec 18, 5:08 pm



It's understandable that Jim doesn't want to discuss the circumstances
of why he didn't serve. But he sure is a interested in military
history. Knows all about it.


Jimmie seems to "know all about anything" he babbles about.


He's read some and can search the Internet (like anyone else)
and then is a wannabe guru on the anything. :-(


Since all who have access to a computer and the internet can search (not
like *everyone else*), what then accounts for your frequent and numerous
factual inaccuracies?


My "frequent and numerous factual inaccuracies?!?" :-)

Davie boy, you will have to do much better than that little
INACCURATE statement of yours. :-)

Let's look at the PCTA "side" and check out some really big MISTAKES
written by The Chosen Ones:

Who wrote, on 10 December in he

"The FCC doesn't license radio amateurs."

Or, a year to two years ago, frequently:

"MARS IS amateur radio."

Davie, you just settle down and don't spazz so much on certain
folks. You only make yourself look pompous, arrogant and you
WILL wind up the target of lots of uncomplimentary-to-you
comments...as have already happened in here. shrug




[email protected] December 20th 05 04:45 AM

why is Jim allowed an unsupervised count and not len
 
On 17 Dec 2005 11:46:34 -0800, wrote:


wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
wrote:
These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals
on the stated dates, and the percentage of
the total number of active licenses that
class contains:

As of May 14, 2000:
simple question care to explain or not


Mark,

Who says "len" is not allowed to count the number of
current, unexpired amateur radio licenses held by
individuals?


Jim, I put on my thnking cap, reread Marks new thread subject, and his
question in the body of his post, and nowhere do I see words to the
effect, "Who says "len" is not allowed to count the number of current,
unexpired amateur radio licenses held by individuals?"

Why do you change the context of Mark's question?


becuase he has not valid answer but you knew that of course

Who says he can't post it here?


That question was not asked either. Marks speaks on "unsupervised
counting."

Why do you change the context of Mark's question?

Not me.


Yes you. You protest "unsupervised counting."


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[email protected] December 22nd 05 05:53 PM

ARS License Numbers
 

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Dec 19, 10:50 am


wrote:
From: on Dec 18, 5:08 pm



It's understandable that Jim doesn't want to discuss the circumstances
of why he didn't serve. But he sure is a interested in military
history. Knows all about it.


Jimmie seems to "know all about anything" he babbles about.


He's read some and can search the Internet (like anyone else)
and then is a wannabe guru on the anything. :-(


Since all who have access to a computer and the internet can search (not
like *everyone else*), what then accounts for your frequent and numerous
factual inaccuracies?


My "frequent and numerous factual inaccuracies?!?" :-)

Davie boy, you will have to do much better than that little
INACCURATE statement of yours. :-)

Let's look at the PCTA "side" and check out some really big MISTAKES
written by The Chosen Ones:

Who wrote, on 10 December in he

"The FCC doesn't license radio amateurs."


They don't? I guess the FCC has no regulatory authority over civil
radio in the US of A.

Or, a year to two years ago, frequently:

"MARS IS amateur radio."


It's starting to make sense. Jims says the FCC fined some idiot for
jamming MARS nets. So although the FCC no longer has regulatory
authority over civil radio, they've taken up enforcing military radio
and MARS nets. Sheesh!

Davie, you just settle down and don't spazz so much on certain
folks. You only make yourself look pompous, arrogant and you
WILL wind up the target of lots of uncomplimentary-to-you
comments...as have already happened in here. shrug



I especially liked him self-identifying as a DXer who works out of band
Frenchmen on 6 meters.


[email protected] December 22nd 05 08:03 PM

ARS License Numbers
 
From: on Dec 22, 9:53 am

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Dec 19, 10:50 am
wrote:
From: on Dec 18, 5:08 pm



It's understandable that Jim doesn't want to discuss the circumstances
of why he didn't serve. But he sure is a interested in military
history. Knows all about it.


Jimmie seems to "know all about anything" he babbles about.


He's read some and can search the Internet (like anyone else)
and then is a wannabe guru on the anything. :-(


Since all who have access to a computer and the internet can search (not
like *everyone else*), what then accounts for your frequent and numerous
factual inaccuracies?


My "frequent and numerous factual inaccuracies?!?" :-)


Davie boy, you will have to do much better than that little
INACCURATE statement of yours. :-)


Let's look at the PCTA "side" and check out some really big MISTAKES
written by The Chosen Ones:


Who wrote, on 10 December in he


"The FCC doesn't license radio amateurs."


They don't? I guess the FCC has no regulatory authority over civil
radio in the US of A.


Depends on which Alternate Universe Jimmie is inhabiting at the
moment. In ours they DO have regulatory authority. In others
they probably don't. :-)


Or, a year to two years ago, frequently:


"MARS IS amateur radio."


It's starting to make sense. Jims says the FCC fined some idiot for
jamming MARS nets. So although the FCC no longer has regulatory
authority over civil radio, they've taken up enforcing military radio
and MARS nets. Sheesh!


Those Alternate Universes are tough areas to inhabit!

I wish those folks would leave their imaginary Universes and
re-enter reality.

Davie, you just settle down and don't spazz so much on certain
folks. You only make yourself look pompous, arrogant and you
WILL wind up the target of lots of uncomplimentary-to-you
comments...as have already happened in here. shrug


I especially liked him self-identifying as a DXer who works out of band
Frenchmen on 6 meters.


Davie explained that he was not responsible, cannot regulate
others' use of the ham bands. Then he turns right around and
tries to bully others in newsgroups. shrug Oh, well...

Maybe he's been spending too much time at "the lodge" by the
fire, sipping rum with the rest of his "out-of-banders'"
banterers? :-)




[email protected] December 24th 05 05:13 PM

ARS License Numbers
 

wrote:
From: on Dec 22, 9:53 am

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Dec 19, 10:50 am
wrote:
From: on Dec 18, 5:08 pm



It's understandable that Jim doesn't want to discuss the circumstances
of why he didn't serve. But he sure is a interested in military
history. Knows all about it.


Jimmie seems to "know all about anything" he babbles about.


He's read some and can search the Internet (like anyone else)
and then is a wannabe guru on the anything. :-(


Since all who have access to a computer and the internet can search (not
like *everyone else*), what then accounts for your frequent and numerous
factual inaccuracies?


My "frequent and numerous factual inaccuracies?!?" :-)


Davie boy, you will have to do much better than that little
INACCURATE statement of yours. :-)


Let's look at the PCTA "side" and check out some really big MISTAKES
written by The Chosen Ones:


Who wrote, on 10 December in he


"The FCC doesn't license radio amateurs."


They don't? I guess the FCC has no regulatory authority over civil
radio in the US of A.


Depends on which Alternate Universe Jimmie is inhabiting at the
moment. In ours they DO have regulatory authority. In others
they probably don't. :-)


In another thread, he's talking about how hard the FCC exams were when
he tested. As if the FCC licenses amateur radio.

Or, a year to two years ago, frequently:


"MARS IS amateur radio."


It's starting to make sense. Jims says the FCC fined some idiot for
jamming MARS nets. So although the FCC no longer has regulatory
authority over civil radio, they've taken up enforcing military radio
and MARS nets. Sheesh!


Those Alternate Universes are tough areas to inhabit!


The atmospheres are low in oxygen, high in methane.

I wish those folks would leave their imaginary Universes and
re-enter reality.


Are you kidding? They're more entertaining than HBO. Cheaper, too.

Davie, you just settle down and don't spazz so much on certain
folks. You only make yourself look pompous, arrogant and you
WILL wind up the target of lots of uncomplimentary-to-you
comments...as have already happened in here. shrug


I especially liked him self-identifying as a DXer who works out of band
Frenchmen on 6 meters.


Davie explained that he was not responsible, cannot regulate
others' use of the ham bands. Then he turns right around and
tries to bully others in newsgroups. shrug Oh, well...


He chastises other folks for not knowing as much about DX as he does,
then he pulls a stunt like that.

Maybe he's been spending too much time at "the lodge" by the
fire, sipping rum with the rest of his "out-of-banders'"
banterers? :-)



Sipping branchwater. Prolly sippin it when those Frenchmen were
calling him. He could have moved it to their legal authorization, you
know.


Dave Heil December 24th 05 06:19 PM

ARS License Numbers
 
wrote:
wrote:
From: on Dec 22, 9:53 am


I especially liked him self-identifying as a DXer who works out of band
Frenchmen on 6 meters.

Davie explained that he was not responsible, cannot regulate
others' use of the ham bands. Then he turns right around and
tries to bully others in newsgroups. shrug Oh, well...


He chastises other folks for not knowing as much about DX as he does,
then he pulls a stunt like that.

Maybe he's been spending too much time at "the lodge" by the
fire, sipping rum with the rest of his "out-of-banders'"
banterers? :-)


Sipping branchwater. Prolly sippin it when those Frenchmen were
calling him. He could have moved it to their legal authorization, you
know.


Pass along Christmas greetings to your pal, the California Grinch.

I'll leave a little something in your tin cup. Maybe you'll do a tap
dance for us. I love your red hat.

Dave K8MN


[email protected] December 25th 05 03:09 AM

ARS License Numbers
 

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
From: on Dec 22, 9:53 am


I especially liked him self-identifying as a DXer who works out of band
Frenchmen on 6 meters.
Davie explained that he was not responsible, cannot regulate
others' use of the ham bands. Then he turns right around and
tries to bully others in newsgroups. shrug Oh, well...


He chastises other folks for not knowing as much about DX as he does,
then he pulls a stunt like that.

Maybe he's been spending too much time at "the lodge" by the
fire, sipping rum with the rest of his "out-of-banders'"
banterers? :-)


Sipping branchwater. Prolly sippin it when those Frenchmen were
calling him. He could have moved it to their legal authorization, you
know.


Pass along Christmas greetings to your pal, the California Grinch.

I'll leave a little something in your tin cup. Maybe you'll do a tap
dance for us. I love your red hat.

Dave K8MN


Dave, I'll gladly pass along your Christmas greetings, no charge. Len
has started a new thread where you can give your wishes to Len or
anyone else, but if you can't make the trip, I'll understand. Merry
Christmas. bb


[email protected] January 1st 06 01:01 PM

ARS License Numbers
 
These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals
on the stated dates, and the percentage of
the total number of active licenses that
class contains:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329 (7.3%)
Technician - 205,394 (30.4%)
Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%)
General - 112,677 (16.7%)
Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%)
Extra - 78,750 (11.7%)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%)

Total General/Advanced/Extra - 291,209 (43.2%)

Total all classes - 674,792


As of December 31, 2005:

Novice - 26,746 (4.0%) [decrease of 22,583]
Technician - 275,144 (41.5%) [increase of 69,750]
Technician Plus - 43,921 (6.7%) [decrease of 84,939]
General - 135,059 (20.4%) [increase of 22,382]
Advanced - 74,220 (11.2%) [decrease of 25,562]
Extra - 107,436 (16.2%) [increase of 28,686]

Total Tech/TechPlus - 318,459 (48.1%) [decrease of 15,795]

Total General/Advanced/Extra - 316,444 (47.8%) [increase of 25,235]

Total all classes - 662,526 (decrease of 13,162)

Note that these totals do not include licenses
that have expired but are in the grace period.
They also do not include club, military, RACES
or other station-only licenses.

Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new
Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses
are no longer issued.

Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing
Technician Plus licenses as Technician. It is therefore
informative to consider the totals of the two classes,
since the Technician class includes a significant
number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as
Technician.

73 de Jim, N2EY


[email protected] January 1st 06 01:12 PM

ARS License Numbers
 
These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals
on the stated dates, and the percentage of
the total number of active licenses that
class contains:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329 (7.3%)
Technician - 205,394 (30.4%)
Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%)
General - 112,677 (16.7%)
Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%)
Extra - 78,750 (11.7%)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%)

Total General/Advanced/Extra - 291,209 (43.2%)

Total all classes - 674,792


As of December 31, 2005:

Novice - 26,746 (4.0%) [decrease of 22,583]
Technician - 275,144 (41.6%) [increase of 69,750]
Technician Plus - 43,921 (6.6%) [decrease of 84,939]
General - 135,059 (20.4%) [increase of 22,382]
Advanced - 74,220 (11.2%) [decrease of 25,562]
Extra - 107,436 (16.2%) [increase of 28,686]

Total Tech/TechPlus - 319,065 (48.2%) [decrease of 15,189]

Total General/Advanced/Extra - 316,715 (47.8%) [increase of 25,506]

Total all classes - 662,526 (decrease of 12,266)


Note that these totals do not include licenses
that have expired but are in the grace period.

They also do not include club, military, RACES
or other station-only licenses.

Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new
Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses
are no longer issued.

Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing
Technician Plus licenses as Technician. It is therefore
informative to consider the totals of the two classes,
since the Technician class includes a significant
number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as
Technician.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Dee Flint January 1st 06 02:27 PM

ARS License Numbers
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals
on the stated dates, and the percentage of
the total number of active licenses that
class contains:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329 (7.3%)
Technician - 205,394 (30.4%)
Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%)
General - 112,677 (16.7%)
Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%)
Extra - 78,750 (11.7%)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%)

Total General/Advanced/Extra - 291,209 (43.2%)

Total all classes - 674,792


As of December 31, 2005:

Novice - 26,746 (4.0%) [decrease of 22,583]
Technician - 275,144 (41.6%) [increase of 69,750]
Technician Plus - 43,921 (6.6%) [decrease of 84,939]
General - 135,059 (20.4%) [increase of 22,382]
Advanced - 74,220 (11.2%) [decrease of 25,562]
Extra - 107,436 (16.2%) [increase of 28,686]

Total Tech/TechPlus - 319,065 (48.2%) [decrease of 15,189]

Total General/Advanced/Extra - 316,715 (47.8%) [increase of 25,506]

Total all classes - 662,526 (decrease of 12,266)


It might also be instructive to look at the totals MINUS the Novice class as
I believe we are now at a point that pretty much all the Novices who would
have updgraded have done so. Of the remaining pool of Novices, we are
losing them by attrition now as they are mainly inactive, not upgrading, and
not renewing.

Total Minus Novice May 14, 2000 = 625,463
Total Minus Novice Dec 31, 2005 = 635,780 (increase of 10,317 or 1.65%).

Perhaps, once the Novice class has died out or come close to it, the
"decline" in the numbers of amateur radio operators will cease (although
1.85% total or 1/3 of 1% per year is barely a decline).

Personally, I believe that we are simply stabilizing our numbers. I.e. the
"market" for ham radio is "saturated" and so we will not experience
significant growth and, so long as we do a decent job of recruiting, will
not experience a significant decline.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE




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