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Old September 10th 04, 02:23 PM
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Cecil is off in other newsgroups. I'm sure he got sick and tired
of the PCTA regulars in here. :-)


Welp, he tried to appease them by joining in one of their CW nets, but
they still crapped on him. Then he joined them, but was so distraught
by that action he left the group.



********
BULL**** you lying and utterly inconseqential Putzlet!!!
********

You really do need to pop for that tome on "recovering from assholism"
and read it as many times as it takes to get it's message.

As if . . !

It was Cecil himself who triggered the one-shot RRAP CW net in the
winter of 2001. Cecil posted that Larry Roll failed to show up for a
couple CW skeds they'd arranged since Larry had challenged Cecil's
claim to being CW conversant. I jumped in at that point and tossed out
a proposal for any and all RRAP lurkers able to do so to gather around
7.037 Mhz some night or another so that Cecil could firmy establish
the fact that he's CW-capable. Which he did and we did. In spades.
Cecil suffers a sort of palsy which makes using any sort of keying
widget difficult to operate so he uses a straight key. He showed up on
the freq during a nasty T-storm that nite but never missed a lick.

Net result has been a helluva lot of ongoing respect for Cecil's CW
and technical skills and doggedness amongst us PCTAs.

In refutation of your bull**** the following were posts tossed out by
some well-known hardcore RRAP PCTAs after that net happened.

- - - - -

At 1010PM EST Feb 27 W3RV called the first session of the RRAP CW
Net.

Checking in were;
W3RV Brian- NCS
W0EX Dick
AC6XG Jim
K0HB Hans
N2EY Jim
W6RCA Cecil

All signals were good in spite of considerable QRM and some QRN from
early spring thunderstorms in the South. Cecil W6RCA reported
thunderstorms in his area (southeast Texas), with sparks in the
hamshack! That had to be noisy, and risky too. Gutsy guy, our Cecil.
None of that for me!

Jim AC6XG initially was weak (549 here) and W6RCA wasn't able to copy
through the storm static, but the skip distance on 40 meters changed
and
his signals improved (to 569 here) and all stations made direct
contact
with each other.

The same band change caused N2EY and W3RV (both in E.Pa.) to shift
signal levels. Initially W3RV had been considerably stronger than N2EY
but changing band conditions nearly reversed their signal levels as
received in Missouri. That's a phenomena that occurrs on 40 meters
when
two close stations work a distant station and propagation shifts
occur.

Anyone who thinks that "CW is dead" should have heard the clamor
between 7035 and 7040, with a PACTOR signal occupying 7038-7040 for a
time. I wondered for awhile, before the announced time, whether or not
we would be able to find a free slot in the activity. Fortunately the
PACTOR station left the air and we took that frequency.

Hey Jones, why didn't you check in??? g

(Dick WØEX)
- - - - -

Nope, wasn't me tuning up on frequency.

I think we ought to make the net a regular event, 03:00 UTC WED (TUE
local) 7.038MHz (=/- QRM).

Best signal: W0EX

Best bug: N2EY

Best straight key: W6RCA

Cecil -- if your feedlines are sparking from an electrical storm, it's
time to evacuate the radio room! dit dit 73, de Hans,

K0HB

- - - -

"Brakob, Hans" wrote:

Nope, wasn't me tuning up on frequency.

I think we ought to make the net a regular event,
03:00 UTC WED (TUE local) 7.038MHz (=/- QRM).


The local ham group here meets one Tues night a month, otherwise I'm
in.

Best signal: W0EX


Tnx! I gess we had a pipeline, you were stoutest here as well. You win
the power prize, though. My Icom was barefoot.

Best bug: N2EY


Yes...

Best straight key: W6RCA

ditto

Cecil -- if your feedlines are sparking from an electrical storm,
it's time to evacuate the radio room!


Yep...I'm afraid I would have been AWOL and hust put up with the
flak...But it was good to work you, Cecil. Nice signal, too.

Dick

- - -

w3rv
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Old September 11th 04, 01:23 AM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:

(William) wrote in message
.com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

Cecil is off in other newsgroups. I'm sure he got sick and tired
of the PCTA regulars in here. :-)

Welp, he tried to appease them by joining in one of their CW nets, but
they still crapped on him. Then he joined them, but was so distraught
by that action he left the group.



********
BULL**** you lying and utterly inconseqential Putzlet!!!
********

You really do need to pop for that tome on "recovering from assholism"
and read it as many times as it takes to get it's message.


Ah...another "civil discourse" PCTA extra heard from. :-)


Civil discourse is RAGING throughout the news group!

Kellie seems to have roared after building up more steam in his
mighty catapult!

Tsk.


He should put a whistle on that steam valve.

So, three years ago all of four CW-using-fans made a "net" after
arranging the contact time and frequency through the newsgroup?

Wow. Great "pioneering" of the airwaves...plus awarding "best of"
ratings for the four (or was it five?).


Yep goading an NCI member into operating during a thunderstorm. They
learned nothing from Ben Franklin.

Did the "net" all with CW to show "CW isn't dead!" :-)

Well, that just goes to show everyone that ALL newbies on HF
MUST learn CW in order to be in company with Giants of the Air!

Marvelous "reasoning." Too much seasoning. A broth of frosh oar.

:-)



Len, go easy on them. It's all they know.

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Old September 11th 04, 08:02 PM
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In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
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In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:

(William) wrote in message
.com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

Cecil is off in other newsgroups. I'm sure he got sick and tired
of the PCTA regulars in here. :-)

Welp, he tried to appease them by joining in one of their CW nets, but
they still crapped on him. Then he joined them, but was so distraught
by that action he left the group.


********
BULL**** you lying and utterly inconseqential Putzlet!!!
********

You really do need to pop for that tome on "recovering from assholism"
and read it as many times as it takes to get it's message.


Ah...another "civil discourse" PCTA extra heard from. :-)


Civil discourse is RAGING throughout the news group!


Heh. All they have is RAGE. :-)

Kellie seems to have roared after building up more steam in his
mighty catapult!

Tsk.


He should put a whistle on that steam valve.


Nah. We already heard his boiler blow up some while ago.

So, three years ago all of four CW-using-fans made a "net" after
arranging the contact time and frequency through the newsgroup?

Wow. Great "pioneering" of the airwaves...plus awarding "best of"
ratings for the four (or was it five?).


Yep goading an NCI member into operating during a thunderstorm. They
learned nothing from Ben Franklin.


Ben who? What was his call? Hi hi. :-)

Did the "net" all with CW to show "CW isn't dead!" :-)

Well, that just goes to show everyone that ALL newbies on HF
MUST learn CW in order to be in company with Giants of the Air!

Marvelous "reasoning." Too much seasoning. A broth of frosh oar.

:-)



Len, go easy on them. It's all they know.


I AM being easy on them! :-)

Poor babies can't take return fire in here.

PCTA extra Double Standard has to be invoked to "justify" (rationalize)
their position.

Expect more raging nastygrams from them PCTAs. :-)


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Old September 14th 04, 03:45 AM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:

(William) wrote in message
.com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message

...
In article ,
(William) writes:

Cecil is off in other newsgroups. I'm sure he got sick and tired
of the PCTA regulars in here. :-)

Welp, he tried to appease them by joining in one of their CW nets, but
they still crapped on him. Then he joined them, but was so distraught
by that action he left the group.


********
BULL**** you lying and utterly inconseqential Putzlet!!!
********

You really do need to pop for that tome on "recovering from assholism"
and read it as many times as it takes to get it's message.

Ah...another "civil discourse" PCTA extra heard from. :-)


Civil discourse is RAGING throughout the news group!


Heh. All they have is RAGE. :-)


The running of the bulls. Gore is the result.

Kellie seems to have roared after building up more steam in his
mighty catapult!

Tsk.


He should put a whistle on that steam valve.


Nah. We already heard his boiler blow up some while ago.


Amazing what a little tin whistle will do.

Then there's the guy running around here with a little tin star.

So, three years ago all of four CW-using-fans made a "net" after
arranging the contact time and frequency through the newsgroup?

Wow. Great "pioneering" of the airwaves...plus awarding "best of"
ratings for the four (or was it five?).


Yep goading an NCI member into operating during a thunderstorm. They
learned nothing from Ben Franklin.


Ben who? What was his call? Hi hi. :-)


4BEN

He came along long before all of the K/W hoopla. Originated "spark."
I think he actually communicated with God. God told him to forget the
on/off keying scenario. Original Sin. We've been paying for it ever
since.

Did the "net" all with CW to show "CW isn't dead!" :-)

Well, that just goes to show everyone that ALL newbies on HF
MUST learn CW in order to be in company with Giants of the Air!

Marvelous "reasoning." Too much seasoning. A broth of frosh oar.

:-)



Len, go easy on them. It's all they know.


I AM being easy on them! :-)


I know, I know. But it's just so unfair. Try tying half of your
brain behind your back, or load up on Oxycotin.

Poor babies can't take return fire in here.


Like it or not, th[ie]'re going to get it.

PCTA extra Double Standard has to be invoked to "justify" (rationalize)
their position.

Expect more raging nastygrams from them PCTAs. :-)



All those nastygrams. Th[ie]'re probably running out of USMC Form 1.


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Old September 15th 04, 06:53 PM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message
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(Brian Kelly) writes:

(William) wrote in message
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message
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In article ,
(William) writes:

Cecil is off in other newsgroups. I'm sure he got sick and

tired
of the PCTA regulars in here. :-)

Welp, he tried to appease them by joining in one of their CW nets,

but
they still crapped on him. Then he joined them, but was so

distraught
by that action he left the group.


********
BULL**** you lying and utterly inconseqential Putzlet!!!
********

You really do need to pop for that tome on "recovering from assholism"
and read it as many times as it takes to get it's message.

Ah...another "civil discourse" PCTA extra heard from. :-)

Civil discourse is RAGING throughout the news group!


Heh. All they have is RAGE. :-)


The running of the bulls. Gore is the result.


Tell that to the Florida vote-counters. :-)

Think of this place as "PCTA Pampalona East" with all the bull
running loose...

Kellie seems to have roared after building up more steam in his
mighty catapult!

Tsk.

He should put a whistle on that steam valve.


Nah. We already heard his boiler blow up some while ago.


Amazing what a little tin whistle will do.


Isn't it tweet? :-)

Then there's the guy running around here with a little tin star.


The Sheriff of Nothing Ham.

"Show me your Papers!" Hi hi.

So, three years ago all of four CW-using-fans made a "net" after
arranging the contact time and frequency through the newsgroup?

Wow. Great "pioneering" of the airwaves...plus awarding "best of"
ratings for the four (or was it five?).

Yep goading an NCI member into operating during a thunderstorm. They
learned nothing from Ben Franklin.


Ben who? What was his call? Hi hi. :-)


4BEN


I heard of that Project...

He came along long before all of the K/W hoopla. Originated "spark."
I think he actually communicated with God. God told him to forget the
on/off keying scenario. Original Sin. We've been paying for it ever
since.

Did the "net" all with CW to show "CW isn't dead!" :-)

Well, that just goes to show everyone that ALL newbies on HF
MUST learn CW in order to be in company with Giants of the Air!

Marvelous "reasoning." Too much seasoning. A broth of frosh oar.

:-)



Len, go easy on them. It's all they know.


I AM being easy on them! :-)


I know, I know. But it's just so unfair. Try tying half of your
brain behind your back, or load up on Oxycotin.


I'll contact Canada for a refill...

Poor babies can't take return fire in here.


Like it or not, th[ie]'re going to get it.


They've gotten it...but don't realize their wounds are terminal.

PCTA extra Double Standard has to be invoked to "justify" (rationalize)
their position.

Expect more raging nastygrams from them PCTAs. :-)



All those nastygrams. Th[ie]'re probably running out of USMC Form 1.


"Form 1?"

Must have changed flightline procedure quite a bit since I last walked
a tarmac. :-)

Oops. I didn't stay on-topic of AMATEUR RADIO! The CAP might
pull a dawn raid on my residence! Or "steve and the boys" will
erect a burning ARRL logo on my front lawn...

Tsk.

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Old September 16th 04, 10:52 PM
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In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
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In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
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In article ,


(Brian Kelly) writes:

(William) wrote in message
.com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

Cecil is off in other newsgroups. I'm sure he got sick and

tired
of the PCTA regulars in here. :-)

Welp, he tried to appease them by joining in one of their CW nets,

but
they still crapped on him. Then he joined them, but was so

distraught
by that action he left the group.


********
BULL**** you lying and utterly inconseqential Putzlet!!!
********

You really do need to pop for that tome on "recovering from assholism"
and read it as many times as it takes to get it's message.

Ah...another "civil discourse" PCTA extra heard from. :-)

Civil discourse is RAGING throughout the news group!

Heh. All they have is RAGE. :-)


The running of the bulls. Gore is the result.


Tell that to the Florida vote-counters. :-)

Think of this place as "PCTA Pampalona East" with all the bull
running loose...


Like an open sewer.

Kellie seems to have roared after building up more steam in his
mighty catapult!

Tsk.

He should put a whistle on that steam valve.

Nah. We already heard his boiler blow up some while ago.


Amazing what a little tin whistle will do.


Isn't it tweet? :-)


He was on here just the other day calling names.

Then there's the guy running around here with a little tin star.


The Sheriff of Nothing Ham.

"Show me your Papers!" Hi hi.


Said he took a couple of days off.

So did Darkguard and Quitefeind.

So, three years ago all of four CW-using-fans made a "net" after
arranging the contact time and frequency through the newsgroup?

Wow. Great "pioneering" of the airwaves...plus awarding "best of"
ratings for the four (or was it five?).

Yep goading an NCI member into operating during a thunderstorm. They
learned nothing from Ben Franklin.

Ben who? What was his call? Hi hi. :-)


4BEN


I heard of that Project...


Ben Heard?

He came along long before all of the K/W hoopla. Originated "spark."
I think he actually communicated with God. God told him to forget the
on/off keying scenario. Original Sin. We've been paying for it ever
since.


Bless me Hiram for I have beeped...

Did the "net" all with CW to show "CW isn't dead!" :-)

Well, that just goes to show everyone that ALL newbies on HF
MUST learn CW in order to be in company with Giants of the Air!

Marvelous "reasoning." Too much seasoning. A broth of frosh oar.

:-)



Len, go easy on them. It's all they know.

I AM being easy on them! :-)


I know, I know. But it's just so unfair. Try tying half of your
brain behind your back, or load up on Oxycotin.


I'll contact Canada for a refill...


Get some catgut guitar strings while you're at it.

Poor babies can't take return fire in here.


Like it or not, th[ie]'re going to get it.


They've gotten it...but don't realize their wounds are terminal.


And they won't until the actuarial arrives.

PCTA extra Double Standard has to be invoked to "justify" (rationalize)
their position.

Expect more raging nastygrams from them PCTAs. :-)



All those nastygrams. Th[ie]'re probably running out of USMC Form 1.


"Form 1?"


TP.

Must have changed flightline procedure quite a bit since I last walked
a tarmac. :-)


Not really, not much. But the CAP pilot wants us to think so. Makes him special.

Oops. I didn't stay on-topic of AMATEUR RADIO! The CAP might
pull a dawn raid on my residence! Or "steve and the boys" will
erect a burning ARRL logo on my front lawn...

Tsk.


He's too much of a whiner to have "boys."

They'd probably abuse him for shooting off his mouth allatime.

.

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(William) wrote in message . com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:


Cecil is off in other newsgroups. I'm sure he got sick and tired
of the PCTA regulars in here. :-)


Welp, he tried to appease them by joining in one of their CW nets, but
they still crapped on him. Then he joined them, but was so distraught
by that action he left the group.



********
BULL**** you lying and utterly inconseqential Putzlet!!!
********


I see that civil discourse is raging throughout RRAP. Hi, hi!

You really do need to pop for that tome on "recovering from assholism"
and read it as many times as it takes to get it's message.

As if . . !


As if you're still studying it.

It was Cecil himself who triggered the one-shot RRAP CW net in the
winter of 2001. Cecil posted that Larry Roll failed to show up for a
couple CW skeds they'd arranged since Larry had challenged Cecil's
claim to being CW conversant.


Cecil appeared to be an upstanding guy.

I jumped in at that point and tossed out
a proposal for any and all RRAP lurkers able to do so to gather around
7.037 Mhz some night or another so that Cecil could firmy establish
the fact that he's CW-capable. Which he did and we did. In spades.


But, but, but...

you said that Cecil hisself triggered the net. Then you say you
proposed it.

Hmmmm?

Cecil suffers a sort of palsy which makes using any sort of keying
widget difficult to operate so he uses a straight key. He showed up on
the freq during a nasty T-storm that nite but never missed a lick.


So you figger he was lying about the palsy or what?

Net result has been a helluva lot of ongoing respect for Cecil's CW
and technical skills and doggedness amongst us PCTAs.


You don't make any sense at all. You dogged him for years for not
being a PCTA.

He switches and then he's Golden! with fond, fond memories posted
below.

You ought to stand back and read what you just posted.

In refutation of your bull**** the following were posts tossed out by
some well-known hardcore RRAP PCTAs after that net happened.

- - - - -

At 1010PM EST Feb 27 W3RV called the first session of the RRAP CW
Net.

Checking in were;
W3RV Brian- NCS
W0EX Dick
AC6XG Jim
K0HB Hans
N2EY Jim
W6RCA Cecil

All signals were good in spite of considerable QRM and some QRN from
early spring thunderstorms in the South. Cecil W6RCA reported
thunderstorms in his area (southeast Texas), with sparks in the
hamshack! That had to be noisy, and risky too. Gutsy guy, our Cecil.
None of that for me!

Jim AC6XG initially was weak (549 here) and W6RCA wasn't able to copy
through the storm static, but the skip distance on 40 meters changed
and
his signals improved (to 569 here) and all stations made direct
contact
with each other.

The same band change caused N2EY and W3RV (both in E.Pa.) to shift
signal levels. Initially W3RV had been considerably stronger than N2EY
but changing band conditions nearly reversed their signal levels as
received in Missouri. That's a phenomena that occurrs on 40 meters
when
two close stations work a distant station and propagation shifts
occur.

Anyone who thinks that "CW is dead" should have heard the clamor
between 7035 and 7040, with a PACTOR signal occupying 7038-7040 for a
time. I wondered for awhile, before the announced time, whether or not
we would be able to find a free slot in the activity. Fortunately the
PACTOR station left the air and we took that frequency.

Hey Jones, why didn't you check in??? g

(Dick WØEX)
- - - - -

Nope, wasn't me tuning up on frequency.

I think we ought to make the net a regular event, 03:00 UTC WED (TUE
local) 7.038MHz (=/- QRM).

Best signal: W0EX

Best bug: N2EY

Best straight key: W6RCA

Cecil -- if your feedlines are sparking from an electrical storm, it's
time to evacuate the radio room! dit dit 73, de Hans,

K0HB

- - - -

"Brakob, Hans" wrote:

Nope, wasn't me tuning up on frequency.

I think we ought to make the net a regular event,
03:00 UTC WED (TUE local) 7.038MHz (=/- QRM).


The local ham group here meets one Tues night a month, otherwise I'm
in.

Best signal: W0EX


Tnx! I gess we had a pipeline, you were stoutest here as well. You win
the power prize, though. My Icom was barefoot.

Best bug: N2EY


Yes...

Best straight key: W6RCA

ditto

Cecil -- if your feedlines are sparking from an electrical storm,
it's time to evacuate the radio room!


Yep...I'm afraid I would have been AWOL and hust put up with the
flak...But it was good to work you, Cecil. Nice signal, too.

Dick

- - -

w3rv


You guys dogged the poor ******* so much that he risked his property
and his life to prove that he was Morse Worthy.

You guys ought to be proud.
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