a past where men told women what they could and could not
do.

You mean you dont, you little sissy

What would be interesting is to find out from KIM WHY she choose that
Callsign, what was her motivation.

"WA8ULX" wrote:

What would be interesting is to find out
from KIM WHY she choose that Callsign,
what was her motivation.


Actually, I believe she has explained that before. So, perhaps you should
search through the message archives for the answer. As for myself, since
it's really none of my business, I'm not really interested in the reason.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/

In article , Dwight Stewart
writes:

Actually, I believe she has explained that before. So, perhaps you should
search through the message archives for the answer. As for myself, since
it's really none of my business, I'm not really interested in the reason.

Dwight:

Actually, it most certainly is the business of any radio amateur who
is properly concerned with the image of the ARS. This is supposed
to be a family-oriented hobby/service. Mr. Hollingsworth said it most
succinctly in his response to Kim when he raised the issue of the
possible negative reaction of a parent/grandparent/aunt/uncle who may
be considering this hobby for a young child in their life. Kim's callsign
most certainly could cause such a person to question the judgment,
if not the personal integrity and morality, of radio amateurs in general,
through this one bad example.

Throughout my adult life, I've been told that "perception is reality."
While I would personally make some allowances for poor choices based
on the immature judgment of younger people, Kim is certainly of an
age and station in life where such poor judgment is much less likely
to be excused. She is the only one who can make this controversy
go away. Should she choose not to, she leaves herself open to the
criticism of those of us who *are* offended and *do* object to her choice
of a Vanity call sign.

73 de Larry, K3LT

"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote:

Actually, it most certainly is the business
of any radio amateur who is properly concerned
with the image of the ARS. This is supposed
to be a family-oriented hobby/service. Mr.
Hollingsworth said it most succinctly in his
response to Kim when he raised the issue of
the possible negative reaction of a parent/
grandparent/aunt/uncle who may be considering
this hobby for a young child in their life.
Kim's callsign most certainly could cause such
a person to question the judgment, if not the
personal integrity and morality, of radio
amateurs in general, through this one bad
example. (snip)


Who's really seeking the lowest common denominator, Larry? You seem to be
saying that nothing should be mentioned on Ham Radio that might offend or
confuse a young child. If we accept that position, all we'd be allowed to
talk about is Barney and the Sesame Street characters.

Regardless, most adults today know what a "tit" is and are not offended or
confused by the simple mention of it. If a child is, the parent should
consider a discussion with them about human sexuality. If they're too young
for that discussion, they're probably too young to be talking with adults on
the radio or most other places.

If you're offended by Kim's callsign, you need to grow up. The adults of
this world are not going to censor their discussions simply to cater to your
unusually delicate sensitivities. And, to be honest with you, I wouldn't
want to see Ham Radio go in that direction.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/

"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message
.. .
"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote:

Actually, it most certainly is the business
of any radio amateur who is properly concerned
with the image of the ARS. This is supposed
to be a family-oriented hobby/service. Mr.
Hollingsworth said it most succinctly in his
response to Kim when he raised the issue of
the possible negative reaction of a parent/
grandparent/aunt/uncle who may be considering
this hobby for a young child in their life.
Kim's callsign most certainly could cause such
a person to question the judgment, if not the
personal integrity and morality, of radio
amateurs in general, through this one bad
example. (snip)


Who's really seeking the lowest common denominator, Larry?


GRIN Larry *is* the lowest common denominator here, Dwight...LOL Know
that saying, "can't see the forest for the trees?"


You seem to be
saying that nothing should be mentioned on Ham Radio that might offend or
confuse a young child. If we accept that position, all we'd be allowed to
talk about is Barney and the Sesame Street characters.


I get the oddest vision in my mind when I think of Larry and his incessant
whining about such puritanical thoughts. Know the vision? You know the
one: where a spanking is more the pleasure of the person touching the butt
than anything else? "I'm doing this for your own good" kind of thinking?


Regardless, most adults today know what a "tit" is and are not offended
or
confused by the simple mention of it.


We are dealing here, with someone who is not--no where near--most adults.


If a child is, the parent should
consider a discussion with them about human sexuality.


Man, you got that right.


If they're too young
for that discussion, they're probably too young to be talking with adults
on
the radio or most other places.


More like if they're too young for that discussion, they probably wouldn't
be able to decipher W5TIT into the word tit.


If you're offended by Kim's callsign, you need to grow up. The adults of
this world are not going to censor their discussions simply to cater to
your
unusually delicate sensitivities. And, to be honest with you, I wouldn't
want to see Ham Radio go in that direction.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/


Growing up won't be done any time soon. We all know that. Let him have his
fun--that's all this is to him. I can guarantee you that Larry doesn't mind
my callsign one bit. He just likes having the topic to throw around once in
a while. I don't mind it at all; in fact, I may be saving the poor wretch
from complete and awesome boredom!

Kim W5TIT

"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message
...
"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message
.. .
"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote:

Actually, it most certainly is the business
of any radio amateur who is properly concerned
with the image of the ARS. This is supposed
to be a family-oriented hobby/service. Mr.
Hollingsworth said it most succinctly in his
response to Kim when he raised the issue of
the possible negative reaction of a parent/
grandparent/aunt/uncle who may be considering
this hobby for a young child in their life.
Kim's callsign most certainly could cause such
a person to question the judgment, if not the
personal integrity and morality, of radio
amateurs in general, through this one bad
example. (snip)


Who's really seeking the lowest common denominator, Larry?


GRIN Larry *is* the lowest common denominator here, Dwight...LOL Know
that saying, "can't see the forest for the trees?"


You seem to be
saying that nothing should be mentioned on Ham Radio that might offend
or
confuse a young child. If we accept that position, all we'd be allowed
to
talk about is Barney and the Sesame Street characters.


I get the oddest vision in my mind when I think of Larry and his incessant
whining about such puritanical thoughts. Know the vision? You know the
one: where a spanking is more the pleasure of the person touching the butt
than anything else? "I'm doing this for your own good" kind of thinking?


Regardless, most adults today know what a "tit" is and are not
offended
or
confused by the simple mention of it.


We are dealing here, with someone who is not--no where near--most adults.


If a child is, the parent should
consider a discussion with them about human sexuality.


Man, you got that right.


If they're too young
for that discussion, they're probably too young to be talking with
adults
on
the radio or most other places.


More like if they're too young for that discussion, they probably wouldn't
be able to decipher W5TIT into the word tit.


If you're offended by Kim's callsign, you need to grow up. The adults
of
this world are not going to censor their discussions simply to cater to
your
unusually delicate sensitivities. And, to be honest with you, I wouldn't
want to see Ham Radio go in that direction.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/


Growing up won't be done any time soon. We all know that. Let him have
his
fun--that's all this is to him. I can guarantee you that Larry doesn't
mind
my callsign one bit. He just likes having the topic to throw around once
in
a while. I don't mind it at all; in fact, I may be saving the poor wretch
from complete and awesome boredom!

Kim W5TIT



I think most of us on here are adults Kim. We have all heard and all know
what a TIT is. I doubt that most of us think your choice of W5TIT for a
callsigh is offensive. I think most of us believe it is a pathetic attempt
for attention.

I personally believe you are a closet exhibitionist.

Thank you for your time Twit.

Dan/W4NTI

"Kim W5TIT" wrote:

(snip) Growing up won't be done any time
soon. We all know that. Let him have his
fun--that's all this is to him. I can
guarantee you that Larry doesn't mind my
callsign one bit. He just likes having
the topic to throw around once in a while.
I don't mind it at all; in fact, I may be
saving the poor wretch from complete and
awesome boredom!


I'm just having a little fun also, Kim. Periodic "discussions" with Larry
are a great diversion from a boring week. That situation will change this
weekend through most of next week and I'll have to reduce my participation
in this newsgroup. But, until then, this is a fun distraction.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/

In article , Dwight Stewart
writes:


"Kim W5TIT" wrote:

(snip) Growing up won't be done any time
soon. We all know that. Let him have his
fun--that's all this is to him. I can
guarantee you that Larry doesn't mind my
callsign one bit. He just likes having
the topic to throw around once in a while.
I don't mind it at all; in fact, I may be
saving the poor wretch from complete and
awesome boredom!


I'm just having a little fun also, Kim. Periodic "discussions" with Larry
are a great diversion from a boring week. That situation will change this
weekend through most of next week and I'll have to reduce my participation
in this newsgroup. But, until then, this is a fun distraction.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)


I'm glad to see that a good time is being had by all. Have a safe and
happy Labour Day week end, Dwight!

73 de Larry, K3LT

In article , "Kim W5TIT"
writes:

GRIN Larry *is* the lowest common denominator here, Dwight...LOL Know
that saying, "can't see the forest for the trees?"

Kim:

A classic example of the pot calling the kettle black.

You seem to be
saying that nothing should be mentioned on Ham Radio that might offend or
confuse a young child. If we accept that position, all we'd be allowed to
talk about is Barney and the Sesame Street characters.

I get the oddest vision in my mind when I think of Larry and his incessant
whining about such puritanical thoughts. Know the vision? You know the
one: where a spanking is more the pleasure of the person touching the butt
than anything else? "I'm doing this for your own good" kind of thinking?

Kim, YOU'RE the one who just put that image in everyone's mind -- not me.
And in so doing, you've just cemented my position about you and your
call sign firmly into place.

Regardless, most adults today know what a "tit" is and are not offended
or
confused by the simple mention of it.


We are dealing here, with someone who is not--no where near--most adults.


If a child is, the parent should
consider a discussion with them about human sexuality.

Man, you got that right.

Any adult who is attempting to introduce a child to the wonderful world of
amateur radio should properly expect to find an atmosphere which would
not require them to "have a discussion of human sexuality." Moreover, I'm
certain that outside of this newsgroup, you would find more agreement with
that statement than anything you've offered on the subject so far.

If they're too young
for that discussion, they're probably too young to be talking with adults
on
the radio or most other places.


More like if they're too young for that discussion, they probably wouldn't
be able to decipher W5TIT into the word tit.

No "deciphering" is required, Kim -- your call sign spells it out in the clear.

If you're offended by Kim's callsign, you need to grow up. The adults of
this world are not going to censor their discussions simply to cater to
your
unusually delicate sensitivities. And, to be honest with you, I wouldn't
want to see Ham Radio go in that direction.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/


Growing up won't be done any time soon. We all know that. Let him have his
fun--that's all this is to him. I can guarantee you that Larry doesn't mind
my callsign one bit. He just likes having the topic to throw around once in
a while. I don't mind it at all; in fact, I may be saving the poor wretch
from complete and awesome boredom!

I assure you, Kim, that I don't need to pursue this particular subject to
allay my boredom!

73 de Larry, K3LT

In article , Dwight Stewart
writes:


"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote:

With all due respect to your XYL, she is not
qualified to judge me. She has no idea how
I relate to women in person. (snip)


Since you're basing your objection on how it reflects on women ("a vulgar,
sexualized, and demeaning connotation which reflects poorly on YL radio
amateurs everywhere"), she is, as a woman, qualified to judge the weight of
that argument. She has done so, and feels your argument lacks substance. She
is, as a woman, also able to say whether Kim's callsign is offensive to her.
She says it is not.

Dwight:

Well, if that's the case, then I guess my "due respect" for your XYL is no
longer deserved.

Your argument lacks substance, Larry. Three women have disagreed with your
position (my wife, Kim, and Dee). While two of the three have reservations
about Kim's callsign (they wouldn't choose it), none find it outright
offensive.

Men once used shame and ridicule to force women to comply with their
domination. That time has passed, Larry. Women are not ashamed of their
bodies anymore, nor are they embarrassed by the mere mention of some part of
that body. Would we (men) really want it any other way?


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

My intention is hardly to "dominate" Kim or any other woman, Dwight.
However, I'm curious as to why that thought occurred to you! In reality,
Kim's call sign tends to encourage men to think of her in that way, but,
then again, that's undoubtedly her intent. Not the kind of behavior I would
expect from a married woman and/or a mother, assuming she has any
children.

Like all men, I have a very deep appreciation for the female body, and I
enjoy the image of an attractive woman as much as anyone else. However,
I also have very traditional moral values, and know that the proper place
for such demonstrations of sexuality should be confined to the private
lives of committed, monogamous intimate partners. If you think that
sounds hopelessly old-fashioned, then thank you, very much!

73 de Larry, K3LT