From: Robert Casey

I'd think that they would just edit the list of requirements for the
various ham
licenses. The code requirement would just be deleted. It would go from

Tech: element 2
General elements 1, 2 and 3
Extra elements 1, 2, 3 and 4

to

Tech element 2
General elements 2 and 3
Extra elements 2, 3 and 4

Where element 1 is the 5wpm code, 2 is tech written, 3 is general
written, and
4 is the extra written.
Eliminate the code testing requirement for the written license classes.

Yes that's what they should do. Basic integrity in Amateur Radio testing
requires that. The code should not be in the path way in between the written
tests.

Code has nothing to do with the written material. It's a different kind of
skill. And it's a single skill independent of other skills. Just as various
awards are recognized individually, like Worked All States, one can recognize
code skill separately from the written tests.

"D. Stussy" wrote in message
. org...
And adopted July 4, 2003 Independence Day!

....OK, so when do the "no code extras" start? :-)

And it begins...

Kim W5TIT

"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message
...
"D. Stussy" wrote in message
. org...
And adopted July 4, 2003 Independence Day!

....OK, so when do the "no code extras" start? :-)

And it begins...
Kim W5TIT

Is it the end of the beginning; or the beginning of the end?

Larry

On 05 Jul 2003 02:23:29 GMT, N2EY wrote:

You ever need somebody to explain the difference between Advance Approach
Medium and Medium Advance Approach, I'll return the favor....

Doesn't that depend on whether it's under GCOR or NORAC?

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
PNW Milepost 754 -- Tillamook District
"No Defects, No Defects"....

lk wrote:
"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message
...

"D. Stussy" wrote in message
r.org...

And adopted July 4, 2003 Independence Day!

....OK, so when do the "no code extras" start? :-)

And it begins...
Kim W5TIT


Is it the end of the beginning; or the beginning of the end?

It's the beginning of the end of the beginning.

- Mike KB3EIA -

"Kim W5TIT" wrote ...

And it begins...

Kim W5TIT



Let them vent, Kim. If it were the other way around, you would feel the
same way. I knew this was coming for a long time, so I've made peace with
it. The truth be told, it's not going to change the way I operate a bit.
As a bit of an aside, the two "Morse" operators at field day were still the
most popular -- we gave the club the most points and had the most on-lookers
(some things will never change) :-))

v/r

Arnie -
KT4ST
FISTS 2940

"Vshah101" wrote ...

I wrote:

Its Fri 10pm, July 4, Independence Day- Ham. DOH!!!

HaHaHaHaHa!

Sorry, I take that back. Although there are more fitting times when you
did
deserve it, on this occasion it does not necessarily deserve a HaHa.

Too bad. Now it has lost its impact. I already said that (HaHaHaHaHa!), so
now
I can't say that again when it truly does apply.


As I see it, your nothing but a big JERK. When the day comes that you need
some help with that antenna, electronics, or building project, remember how
you treated the guys you disagreed with when they tell you to pound sand.

Arnie -
KT4ST

Arnie Macy wrote:
"Vshah101" wrote ...


I wrote:


Its Fri 10pm, July 4, Independence Day- Ham. DOH!!!

HaHaHaHaHa!

Sorry, I take that back. Although there are more fitting times when you

did

deserve it, on this occasion it does not necessarily deserve a HaHa.

Too bad. Now it has lost its impact. I already said that (HaHaHaHaHa!), so

now

I can't say that again when it truly does apply.



As I see it, your nothing but a big JERK. When the day comes that you need
some help with that antenna, electronics, or building project, remember how
you treated the guys you disagreed with when they tell you to pound sand.

Remember Arnie, we're talking about the same guy who says he'll help
fellow amateurs put an antenna up, but not take it down because he isn't
learning anything doing that.

He doesn't realize that *he* is his own worst enemy.

- Mike KB3EIA -

"D. Stussy" wrote in message
. org...
On Sat, 5 Jul 2003, N2EY wrote:
In article , "Bill Sohl"
writes:

"Steve Robeson, K4CAP" wrote in message
. com...
Alun Palmer wrote in message
...
Yes it's true. The final report of WRC 2003 is he-

http://www.iaru.org/rel030703.html

Easy there fellas...The TREATY requirement may be negated, but
we
are still under FCC regulation...let's give them a day or two to
see
how they are going to handle this.
Steve, K4YZ

No one said otherwise.

Actually, didn't the FCC say back in 2000 that the ONLY reason they kept a
code
element in the requirements was the International Treaty requirement,
which has
now disappeared?

That's how most of us read the R&O.

Look at the thread title, Bill. "CW Requirement Abolished" - not "Treaty
No
Longer Requires Code Test" or "S25.5 Revised" or anything like that. The
casual
observer would think the code test is gone. Not yet,

Clearly the issue of code testing now becomes
a country by country decision.

Only once the new treaty is accepted by the various countries.

There is no global vote of acceptance. It is NOW a country
by country decision. Some countries probably have no formal
ratification at all and simply accept the new treaty as of 7/5/03.

The USA goes through a "ratification" of the treaty which takes
some time...but it will be ratified because to not ratify leaves
the USA totally out of the agreement. If the USA didn't
ratify the new treaty, the old treaty isn't "resurrected", but
rather the USA would simply not be a party to the treaty
at all.

Simple: Congress ratifies it and the next day, the FCC creates the "no
code
extra."

Works for me.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK

"Mike Coslo" wrote ...

Remember Arnie, we're talking about the same guy who says he'll help
fellow amateurs put an antenna up, but not take it down because he isn't
learning anything doing that.

He doesn't realize that *he* is his own worst enemy.

Doesn't surprise me, Mike. Based on what I've read of his posts.

Arnie -