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Old July 22nd 03, 04:48 AM
Radio Amateur KC2HMZ
 
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 11:33:11 -0500, "Dan/W4NTI"
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Came within two questions of passing the Extra without cracking a book.

Further proof of the dumbing down of the ARS.


Huh??

I passed the General class written without cracking a book...it was
the code that took me a long time to learn. The theory I learned
through some 35 years as a radio hobbyist (with some helpful
experience repairing televisions part time shortly after high school)
before finally getting a ham ticket.

In Scott's case, what he's learned prior to taking the tests almost
took him through the Extra class written.

What's the difference whether you got the knowledge from a book or
from practical experience, as long as you have that knowledge? And how
does getting it from practical experience instead of from the book
prove anything at all related to the supposed dumbing down of the ARS?

Try cracking a book on logic, OM...pay special attention to the part
where they talk about non-sequitur. ;-)

73 DE John, KC2HMZ

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Old July 21st 03, 02:29 AM
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Dee D. Flint wrote:
"Vshah101" wrote in message
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From: "Dee D. Flint" deehays


So what do you plan to do to recruit people to Morse code. If want


others

to use it, you have the responsibility


No, what I meant is that its a better situation for me if more Hams use


Morse

code. For one thing, I won't be talking to them. But, I'm not going to go


and

recruit people to use Morse code.



You want other hams to use Morse so you don't have to talk to them. That's
extremely anti-social on your part and totally opposite of your previously
stated desires that you would like to get hams to be more social.


Trolls will say anything to get a response.

- Mike KB3EIA -

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Old July 21st 03, 04:54 AM
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In article , Mike Coslo
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Trolls will say anything to get a response.


Works for you...

LHA
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Old July 22nd 03, 12:37 AM
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From: Dave Heil k8mn

I don't want to talk to some older males. Thats not anti-social.


If we go by your rules, it certainly is.


Its still consistent. Those Hams are on the radio, not in person. For example,
those Hams at the "DXpedition" contacted other (anti-social) Hams on Sat night,
but did not meet anyone in person.

That has nothing to do with the technical part of the hobby. The technical part
occurred during the antenna and equipment setup. There was plenty of operating
during the day, so operating on Sat night more represented the social aspect
more than any technical aspect. Therefore, this is how those Hams spent their
Sat night. Seems anti-social to me.

You didn't go on a DXpedition.


They called it a DXpedition.

Many Hams will work DX. They get a thrill from that. But, they won't talk

to
the person next door or to anyone in person.


Your record is stuck, Vipul. Your claim is simply another tired
stereotype offered without proof of any kind.


I gave an example above where the Hams contacted people through the radio, but
did not meet anyone in person. (Probably avoided it). This was not my local
club. It was a random group of Hams.


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Old July 22nd 03, 04:33 AM
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Vshah101 wrote:

From: Dave Heil k8mn

I don't want to talk to some older males. Thats not anti-social.


If we go by your rules, it certainly is.


Its still consistent. Those Hams are on the radio, not in person. For example,
those Hams at the "DXpedition" contacted other (anti-social) Hams on Sat night,
but did not meet anyone in person.


Fine, Vipul. Then those hams present with you must not have talked to
each other or to you. If they did otherwise, there was social
interaction. I've worked several hams in India any number of times over
the past couple of decades. I've never met them in person nor have I
telephoned them to chat and ask of their families. By your definition,
I'm anti-social.

That has nothing to do with the technical part of the hobby. The technical part
occurred during the antenna and equipment setup. There was plenty of operating
during the day, so operating on Sat night more represented the social aspect
more than any technical aspect. Therefore, this is how those Hams spent their
Sat night. Seems anti-social to me.


Who are you to tell people enjoying their hobby as a group what they
should be doing with their Saturdays?

You didn't go on a DXpedition.


They called it a DXpedition.


They were wrong. You've been corrected several times before but you
continue to put forth the error as fact. You are wrong.

Many Hams will work DX. They get a thrill from that. But, they won't talk

to
the person next door or to anyone in person.


Your record is stuck, Vipul. Your claim is simply another tired
stereotype offered without proof of any kind.


I gave an example above where the Hams contacted people through the radio, but
did not meet anyone in person. (Probably avoided it). This was not my local
club. It was a random group of Hams.


I hope we don't have a QSO, Vipul. I couldn't take the suspense of
waiting for you to show up at my door. Are you familiar with the term
"flakey"?

Dave K8MN
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Old July 22nd 03, 03:37 AM
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"Vshah101" wrote in message
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From: "Dee D. Flint"

You want other hams to use Morse so you don't have to talk to them.

That's
extremely anti-social on your part and totally opposite of your

previously
stated desires that you would like to get hams to be more social.


I don't want to talk to some older males. Thats not anti-social.


Same with me too.... but there are some that I would like to talk to as
well, but I would definitely love to see more women on the air!



And they are there Fri, Sat night on several bands, including 40m, 2m, and

ATV.
I know from the DXpedition in May.

Many Hams will work DX. They get a thrill from that. But, they won't talk

to
the person next door or to anyone in person. Thats why a local Ham's

neighbor
complained that the Ham has too many antennas at his house.


That is something I have observed as well..... kinda like the addage, "I am
a ham operator, I have friends all over the world, but none in my backyard!"
I believe (IMHO) that we should work outward from where we are getting to
know our nieghbors first, and working out like the ripples in a pond after a
rock is thrown into it. My personal preference is to get to know a person
for who they are, what they are passionate and interested about,
likes/dislikes etc., for the times when I am not operating in a public
service/emergency communications setting.


--
Ryan, KC8PMX
FF1-FF2-MFR-(pending NREMT-B!)
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Old July 24th 03, 04:28 AM
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In article , "Ryan, KC8PMX"
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Ryan, KC8PMX
FF1-FF2-MFR-(pending NREMT-B!)
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Ryan:

What about police and the military? Aren't they also doing God's work?

73 de Larry, K3LT
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