"charlesb" wrote


Just for fun: Try to "Google" "freeband echolink". Lots of interesting
links there.


Just for fun, I did. Results below. Maybe I used the wrong Google?

73, Hans



Your search - "freeband echolink" - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:
- Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
- Try different keywords.
- Try more general keywords.
Also, you can try Google Answers for expert help with your search.

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"charlesb" wrote


Just for fun: Try to "Google" "freeband echolink". Lots of interesting
links there.


Just for fun, I did. Results below. Maybe I used the wrong Google?


Probably just don't know how to use it. My ten-year old son just managed it
just fine. Perhaps you should try again.

Charles Brabham, N5PVL

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"charlesb" wrote


Just for fun: Try to "Google" "freeband echolink". Lots of interesting
links there.


Just for fun, I did. Results below. Maybe I used the wrong Google?

I just managed to duplicate your results. Hans. I had to leave the quotes
around the two words, in order to get it to mess up.

Charles Brabham, N5PVL

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"K0HB" wrote in message
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"charlesb" wrote


Just for fun: Try to "Google" "freeband echolink". Lots of
interesting
links there.


Just for fun, I did. Results below. Maybe I used the wrong Google?

Hans, you appear to disagree with my post about echolink, but you do not
offer any counterpoint to the arguements I made... Instead, you seem to be
going into "insult and mindless nit-pick" mode. You decided to Troll.

In the future, when you respond to rational, reasonable arguement with a
kindergarten level response, I will ignore you, and just figure that you
have no arguement. That's pretty well the case here, isn't it Hans?

Charles Brabham, N5PVL

"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message
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Good grief, Charles. All Hans did was tell you that he tried a search and
posted the results he got. If you can extrapolate a disagreement from the
post that Hans submitted, I suggest to you that you were dearly searching
for one...

Kim W5TIT

Yes, it's true. I have come to know Hans over the years.

Charles, N5PVL

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

No surprise there Mike. No calls, no decency, no license. Access available
to anyone that can lie their way in. Yep....what a system.


And someone can obtain a ham radio rig and go on the air with a bootleg
call.
Same difference.

Not really!

First off, once you get beyond the HT or magmount-on-the-filing-cabinet stage,
it's a lot more trouble to set up a ham station.

Second (and this is the biggie) the only way for a bootlegger to avoid lots of
negative attention from other hams is to act legitimate.

73 de Jim, N2EY

First to blame are the offenders obviously, Second to blame are the Control
Operators that are supposed to be monitoring the damned thing to catch it
before it gets out of hand. It's just that simple.



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"Hans K0HB" wrote in message
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"Mike Coslo" wrote

Hans, would you want your children or grandchildren to listen to that
filth on your radio? It doesn't have any place in the ARS, but it's what
I'm hearing.

Of course foul language has no place in the ARS!!!! DUH!!!!!

So you blame EchoLink, FM, repeaters, or do you blame the creeps who
commit the offense?

Good luck on this one now!

73, de Hans, K0HB





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Mike,

I do believe it does serve some purpose...... I have a friend that goes to
Arizona every winter due to him and his wife's health issues and he does not
have much there to use for equipment. He and I chat via Echolink on a
regular basis on the link point connected where he is at. I also have
developed some friendships with the people that frequent that access point
(simplex access point, not a repeater one) as well. He is a 30+ year Extra
class licensee so he CAN operate just about anywhere but only has 2m/70cm
access when he goes there.

In this case it is a very productive use of the system. In this particular
circumstance we would never be able to communicate if it wasn't for the
system. Other than a little experimentation with it at first, I have not
used it for much more than to communicate with him though.


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And even though I have tried to look into Echolink with an open mind,
in the end, I just don't think of it as a ham type sport - except for
those that just want to talk. And I'm more into the hobby to build
things, contest, and try to stretch my radio legs - not just talk.

- Mike KB3EIA -

"Ryan, KC8PMX" wrote in message
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Mike,

I do believe it does serve some purpose...... I have a friend that goes to
Arizona every winter due to him and his wife's health issues and he does
not
have much there to use for equipment. He and I chat via Echolink on a
regular basis on the link point connected where he is at. I also have
developed some friendships with the people that frequent that access point
(simplex access point, not a repeater one) as well. He is a 30+ year
Extra
class licensee so he CAN operate just about anywhere but only has 2m/70cm
access when he goes there.

In this case it is a very productive use of the system. In this
particular
circumstance we would never be able to communicate if it wasn't for the
system. Other than a little experimentation with it at first, I have not
used it for much more than to communicate with him though.

You could say the same things if your friend had been using a cell-phone or
regular telephone, Ryan.

You most especially could say the same things if they had been using ICQ or
any other form of Internet chat.

The fact that people use Echolink to successfully communicate does not
magically make the Internet connection "ham radio". An important
distinction to keep in mind is that our hobby is not called "Amateur
Communication", where any form of communication will serve but rather
"Amateur Radio", where the focus is solely upon radio communications.

The ARRL inadvertently created some confusion about this with thier
"communicator" promotions, a few years back.

The fact that your friends have decided to slow down and reduce the audio
quality of thier Internet chat by hanging a radio on one end or the other
does not make that Internet communication "Ham Radio"... It just means that
they are willing to put up with reduced performance in thier chat
activities, in order to have a "ham radio simulator" at one end or the
other.

In the end, Echolink serves as an excuse not to use radio to communicate "as
a ham", as in the case with your friends. It also very often serves as an
excuse not to learn more about the hobby and upgrade, as in the case of the
hundreds, perhaps thousands of hams who instantly dropped plans to upgrade,
or even to buy a radio upon discovering Echolink. Echolink devotees are just
brimming over with excuses, but none of those excuses change the fact that
Echolink is an Internet chat, not ham radio.

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Just for fun: Remember "Hands across America"? It was some kind of a wierd
promotion where they tried to get people to join hands in a solid chain,
coast to coast! There were some unexpected difficulties in mountanous and
desert areas that could have easily been foreseen, but anyway:

Imagine a chain of people, coast to coast, passing along a note like we used
to do in school, but this note goes from New York to Los Angeles,
California!

The original note is written down from a message heard on a handy-talky from
a New York repeater.

They pass the note, thousands of people passing it hand-to-hand across the
whole U.S. and finally at the end, the note is read into the microphone of
another H/T, tuned to a repeater in Los Angeles.

Headline: "Hams use handy-talkies to communicate from New York to Los
Angeles!"

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I believe it would be stretching things just a bit too much to call it an
"amateur radio" communication, don't you?

Charles Brabham, N5PVL

Au Contraire
Echolink is an Internet chat FOR Amateur Radio Operators
And anything that allows communication between Hams gotta be OK.
Just another communication vehicle
Get over it!

I never use it but can easily understand why it can be of value to others.
And that from a 25 Year extra class ham.
Hey CW, SSB, RTTY, PSK31, Packet, NTS, IRLP, EchoLink, Phone Patch, et al --
communicate communicate is da word.

Signal In The Noise But MDS
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SNIP Da Rationale
Echolink devotees are just
brimming over with excuses, but none of those excuses change the fact that
Echolink is an Internet chat, not ham radio.