Larry Roll K3LT wrote:
In article , Mike Coslo writes:


Mike:

You and your NPTI are just like all the other NPPTA (No Parallel Parking
Test Agenda) whiners. You just want to dumb-down the driving test so
that any dummy who is fed up with riding his bicycle can just knock off
a simple, multiple-guess written test, then get into a Buick and hit the
road just like us Real Drivers(tm).

We have never said anything like that! We support the rest of the
testing procedures. Besides, we must be inclusive, and not turn
potential drivers away because of basic skills.


Mike:

Without basic skills like PP, drivers will become mere appliance operators,
totally dependent on the technology in their cars to do their parking for them,
rather than being able to do it themselves under severe, emergency
conditions. PP is a very practical, effective, efficient, and universal way
to park an automobile, but we can't make use of this technique unless
drivers know how to do it. Only a testing requirement will give them the
incentive they need to learn.

Wrong, you are wrong! And your trying to repress my beliefs is only a
symptom of the great perfidy of the PHISTS conspiracy.

Years ago, I operated vehicles 24/7. I have great experience in
vehicles, more so than the mighty parkmen, the Gods of driving, who
would force theor will on the rest of us! ;^) ;^) ;^)



I think that not only should Parallel Parking be a requirement on the road
test for a driver's license, but Parallel Parking Proficiency should be
demonstrated at a rate of at least 12 Parallel Parkings per hour (pph).
After all, if you cannot Parallel Park time after time, in a variety of

driving

conditions, then you cannot expect to be able to operate a motor vehicle
successfully in the typical urban driving environment.

Ha! you and your ilk are always trying to keep people off the roads.
Hazing ritual is all this is.


Ah, stick it in your ear, you NPTI loser! You're just taking driving
One Step Closer To Extinction. Next thing you're going to do is paint
a big set of boobs on your car, so everyone will be looking at them,
instead of noticing the fact that you're double parked in a yellow zone!
Anyway, I had to do it, so everyone should!

HAH! ;^) What I do with my car is my own business!


I hold a Class B Commercial Driver's License, and to pass my road test,
I had to parallel park a 30-foot long bus. I passed my test on the first
attempt, with a perfect score. Any driver who can't park at least as well
as I can is nothing more than a lazy, unmotivated, dumbed-down whiner
who wants the world handed over to him or her on a silver platter, since
all they have to do is parallel park a Dodge Neon or something similar.
Of course, now that Toyota has eliminated the need for most drivers to
parallel park, they'll probably be sending PRM's to the DOT and, with
enough whining, will get the Parallel Parking test reduced or eliminated
in the next "restructuring" of the driver's test.

That's what NPTI is working toward. Why should people have to learn an
outdated skill like PP? Heck, the next thing you'll want is for people
to want to know how to drive a standard transmission or to know how to
use buggy whips. All you anachronistic types are just holding driving back.


Hey, I'll go one further than that. I think they should be tested in the
proper
procedures for changing a tyre on the highway under severe emergency
conditions.


I'm going to start a new organisation called PHISTS -- Parking Has
Important Status To Safety. We will encourage the use of Parallel
Parking by sponsoring awards programs for drivers who participate in
local parallel parking demonstration events. Attending 100 such events
will earn you your PHISTS Century Award. Other awards programs
will be announced in the future.

As far as I'm concerned, you NPTI/NPPTA whiners can go fly a kite.
You will never achieve the status of us Parallel Parking Tested drivers.
We're better than you, and we can prove it! You couldn't park a Prius
on a football field!


Oh yeah? Oh yeah? Oh yeah?


Izzat so??? Yeah, zat's so!!!


- Mike KB3EIA -

President of NPTI

Taking driving into the future


You mean, taking driving one step closer to extinction, Loser Putz.

Sure, sure, Larragh. The mighty Parkman runs out of arguments, so
starts the insults! ;^) ;^) ;^) ;^)


73 de Larry, CDL-B
President, PHISTS (Parking Has Important Status To Safety)

- Mike KB3EIA -

President, NPTI

Taking Driving into the future

In article , "Ryan, KC8PMX"
writes:

As one PP'er to another, it is an honor to know you! It's nice to know
that
we're morally and intellectually superior to the dumbed-down, unwashed,
non-PP'ing hoardes of inferior drivers.

Should we form an official club, pay some dues, wear a ton of
patches/buttons etc.?? lol

Ryan:

All of the above! I propose that we also have Parallel Parking contests
and sponsor awards programs. A person who PP's 100 times would
get the basic Century Award; then 500 PP's would qualify you for the
Silver PP Award, then Gold, then Platinum, then Diamond, etc. etc.
Naturally, we'll have the official club with dues, a Board of Directors,
Officers, Executive Committee meetings, a web site, and an entire
range of Official PP Club Men's and Ladie's wear.

Michigan still has "Chauffeur's" licenses? Which class of CDL is that
equivalent to? Here in Delaware, I'm told that Emergency Vehicle
operators don't require anything more than a standard Class D Driver's
license. They do, however, have to be a card-carrying member of
the "Emergency Service" (usually a local volunteer FD) to which
the emergency vehicle is registered.

The MI Chauffers is one step down from the National CDL thingy as I believe
if I remember correctly it allows you to drive any vehicle 25,999Lbs and
under, as well as tow any trailer under that same weight. For passenger
vehicles, up to 15, otherwise that would require the CDL-C if memory serves
correctly. It also is the same license that covers a "driver for hire" from
anything from a pizza or other delivery person, limo driver etc. I had a
CDL a while back but have not elected to get it again.

Michigan has a specific class, which entails a 6 hour classroom
instruction, a skills driving course (1-2 hours depending on the course,
instructor etc.) and 8 hours driving with your chief to qualify for the
permit. As long as you pass the requirements for this, you can drive
emergency vehicles under emergency and non-emergency official department
business within the state of Michigan. Exception would be if you are
transporting the vehicle across state lines such as if your department were
buying a used pumper from another department in a different state, that
would require a CDL license.......

OK, that's pretty much what I expected. I was just surprised to hear
the term "Chauffeur's License" used again! Thanks for the info.

73 de Larry, K3LT