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Old September 20th 03, 01:32 AM
Clint
 
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"Robert" wrote in message
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"Dick Carroll" wrote

which I learned as a requirement of my licensure as a
ham radio operator. There is no reason for you to be exempted from the
same.


Well, at least you finally admit that it's "I had to do it, you
should too."



well i'll beeee..... , you're RIGHT!

Didn't figure he had the guts.

Clint
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Old September 20th 03, 01:43 AM
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AH!

we've finally gotten to the personal character attacks.

You must have already conceded defeat. That's the only
thing one can conclude when the ideas and facts stop
flowing and the insults start flying.

Clint
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"Arnie Macy" wrote in message
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"Len Over 21" wrote ...

Macy, almost ALL your arguments are superfluous, denigratory, and without

a
shred of merit in here. All you do is promote myths of "CW" as if this

was
still the 1930s.
__________________________________________________ _______

Are you Clint's Daddy? I was hoping that *he* would answer the question.

I
will say this, though. He sure does admire you. Are you sure y'all

aren't
related?

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Old September 20th 03, 02:04 AM
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"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote in message
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The scary bit is if you keep applying logic to this argument, it
just keeps getting wierder.


no, you just keep getting angrier because the modern-world hams
in here and elsewhere refute your (non)logic and continue to work
toward eliminating CW testing


Uhm, we're on the same side on that matter. I was pointing out how
the PCTA argument devolves.


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Old September 20th 03, 04:39 AM
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Bill Sohl wrote:

Most emergency operations don't even need or use HF.
All of yesterday's activity for Hurricane Isabel was VHF/UHF
for local and county operations.


Think beyond local and county operations, Bill. Here in West Virginia
there were HF operations on both 40 and 75m.

Dave K8MN
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Old September 20th 03, 05:51 AM
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In article , "Arnie Macy"
writes:

"Len Over 21" wrote in part ...

I care less what you do. You've made so much BS in here about your
professional amateurism that there's no believing what you say. I doubt you
were ever an Army civilian doing criminal investigation.
_________________________________________________ _____________

Actually I think you care a great deal about what I do since you mention it
in every one of your replies to me.


I just think you are one of the usual morseman BS artists in here.

It must really frost you that I've been
successful at everything I've ever done -- including Emergency Management
(apparently you've failed at many things along the way)


You've been "successful at everything you've done?"

What have you "done" other than acquiring titles?

What have I "failed at many times along the way?"

I started out working as an industrial illustrator, then switched to
electronics engineering in 1958. Did engineering full time until
retirement. I have a nice income, a wonderful wife (who was my steady
girl friend in high school), a fully-paid-for house in Southern California
and another, also fully-paid-for house in Washington state (that one on
5 acres).

I've never tried to "get" any amateur radio license. Had a commercial
radio license since 1956. Having done 3 years of Big Time long-distance
24/7 HF communications in the military, I have no interest in "working DX
from my home station."


If you doubt my
credentials, feel free to read the article on my web site that was done by
the local paper when I was appointed as director for EM.


I'm sure you can get all sorts of "credentials." :-)

But, what have you DONE besides acquire credentials?

Then verify the
sources. As for you -- since you *still* can't reply without being the
insulting obnoxious petty bore you've always been, its back to the killfile.


So, you think it is "okay" to be the insulting obnoxious petty bore
who has an amateur license but you object to all of us who don't
have an amateur license?

Sure looks that way to me and many others, Ah-nold.

To be honest, I'd much rather exchange views with Bill Sohl -- at least he
makes cogent debatable arguments from his side of the isle.


When I see "cogent debate" from yourself, sans the snarly sarcasm of
the codified royal classes attitude from yourself, I'll be more than happy
to do REAL debate with you, Ah-nold.

You can't do it. Have never done it.

Surprise us with a first for yourself and lay off the "morsemen are
superior beings" bull**** and you can get some "cogent debate."

Happy credentialism.

LHA


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Old September 20th 03, 06:02 AM
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"Dave Heil" wrote in message
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Bill Sohl wrote:

Most emergency operations don't even need or use HF.
All of yesterday's activity for Hurricane Isabel was VHF/UHF
for local and county operations.


Think beyond local and county operations, Bill. Here in West Virginia
there were HF operations on both 40 and 75m.


So be it then. This issue is about
a CW test requirement anyway...not whether you want to use
CW in your local area for emergency comms.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK



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Old September 20th 03, 06:23 AM
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"Dick Carroll" wrote in message
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Brian wrote:

Dick Carroll wrote in message

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Robert wrote:

"Dick Carroll" wrote

I am capable of passing any sort of radio traffic by way of
radiotelgraphy,

I'd like to see you pass a weather satellite photo fax via
radiotelegraphy....

Uh,, Bob, that isn't traffic, It's *data*. I guess if you were really
familiar with radio
you;d know that, wouldn't you?


Uhhh, DICK, you should know that weather data can be passed via many
modes, and that satellite imagery is referred to as wefax or wxsat.

Typically, what is called "DATA" is RTTY.


No, Brian, digital information that is not analog voice is generally known

as data
tansmission.


Not true. There is an incredible amount of digital "traffic" that is
actually
voice. Voice over IP, Voice over ATM, traditional PCM encoded voice, etc.
Once digitized, voice traffic isn't any different than any other digital
information (i.e. data).

Additionally, the term "traffic" is generic as to type/content and
does include any/all types of information transfer...voice, text, video,
image, etc.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK



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Old September 20th 03, 12:02 PM
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"Clint" wrote ...

AH! we've finally gotten to the personal character attacks. You must have
already conceded defeat. That's the only thing one can conclude when the
ideas and facts stop flowing and the insults start flying.
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Don't flatter yourself, Clint. The comment was directed to Len. You, OTOH,
haven't responded to the comment except for making some superfluous remark
about defeat where there is none. In doing so, you make my point for me.

Arnie -
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Old September 20th 03, 12:11 PM
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"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote in message ...

And that many a PCTA behave as if they were.


BINGO!
along with people who live in the past.

Clint
KB5ZHT


They just don't get it. They don't get much at all.
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Old September 20th 03, 12:21 PM
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Dick Carroll wrote in message ...
Well, Brainiac, here it is, straight from the horses a....er. .....mouth-

Keith sed...
On 16 Sep 2003 02:46:25 GMT,
Alun Palmer in wrote:
EI is the 7th country to abolish code testing by my reckoning


Don't fret Alun, by the time the USA approves of no
more morse code testing the bands will be destroyed
by BPL. You can quote me on that.



So I guess you guys will get your code free bands just in time.
Gee, things have a way of evening out.......for decades you "wouldn't",
now you "couldn't"...Poor baby!


DICK, I've always been a coded ham. You're statements do noting but
reveal your dementia.
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