As a member of NCI, I have used land-line Morse as well as international
Morse. You wouldn't understand. It's a ham radio thing.

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


"shephed" wrote in message
...
If your not a retarded mouth breeding NCI member, there is a CW contest
going one right now.

If you are a retarded mouth breeding NCI member, then never mind, it's a
Ham
Radio thing. You would not understand.

10-73's!




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"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
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As a member of NCI

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

Say it ain't so, Jim. ;-)

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WA2SI

"shephed" wrote in message . ..
If your not a retarded mouth breeding NCI member, there is a CW contest
going one right now.

If you are a retarded mouth breeding NCI member, then never mind, it's a Ham
Radio thing. You would not understand.

10-73's!

Rev. Jim is going to chastise you for your dirty mouth. Oh, never
mind, it's a PCTA thing.

In article ,
(Brian) writes:

"shephed" wrote in message
...
If your not a retarded mouth breeding NCI member, there is a CW contest
going one right now.

If you are a retarded mouth breeding NCI member, then never mind, it's a
Ham
Radio thing. You would not understand.

10-73's!

Rev. Jim is going to chastise you for your dirty mouth.

Who are you talking about, Brian?

Oh, never mind, it's a PCTA thing.

You mean like the way you never censure Len or Carl (or anybody else who
happens to oppose code tests), no matter what they say or how they say it?

Oh, never mind, it's an NCTA double standards thing.

In article , "Steve Stone"
writes:

I think anyone who is a train engineer should pass a test for operating a
coal fired steam locomotive

The term usually used is "locomotive engineer"

If the railroad they intend to work for uses coal fired steam locomotives,
learning how to run them would be a good idea.

73 de Jim, N2EY

If the railroad they intend to work for uses coal fired steam locomotives,
learning how to run them would be a good idea.


yes, exactly.

I guess it's too bad that there aren't that many coal fired steam
locomotives
being used anymore.

Clint
KB5ZHT

In article , "Clint"
rattlehead@computronDOTnet writes:

If the railroad they intend to work for uses coal fired steam locomotives,
learning how to run them would be a good idea.

yes, exactly.

Then you agree that the skills tested for should be those actually used.

I guess it's too bad that there aren't that many coal fired steam
locomotives being used anymore.

They had their good and bad features.

The main reason most US railroads stopped using them in the 1950s was simple
economics, nothing more. The total operating cost of diesel electric
locomotives, in terms of ton-miles per locomotive operating dollar, was simply
better. The diesels themselves were more expensive to buy, and so was their
fuel. Parts were also more expensive. But the diesel-electrics did not require
water, did not generate ashes or cinders, and could be left idling in cold
weather without much attention.

US railroads then were (and most still are) private companies whose purpose is
to make a profit.

Ham radio is completely different.

73 de Jim, N2EY

(N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article , "Steve Stone"
writes:

I think anyone who is a train engineer should pass a test for operating a
coal fired steam locomotive

The term usually used is "locomotive engineer"

If the railroad they intend to work for uses coal fired steam locomotives,
learning how to run them would be a good idea.

Ya can't operate any locomotive if yer not certified "in type" per
(+/-) the FAA regs for being licensed in type of A/C. I forget who
issues the certifications, the states or the feds. Plus the ASME also
gets into the act in the case of steamers because of requirments on
certification of boiler operators. Which is not the case with diesels
and full-scale Lionels.

73 de Jim, N2EY

w3rv

In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes:

"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote in message
...


The youngsters today still tell me that they must learn to use a pencil
and
learn to write script. Typing and word processing are taught AFTER they
have learned to write manually. Enough said.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


yes, if we were talking about a degree in literature from a school or
college,
which we are not.

Clint
KB5ZHT


This is elementary school, middle school, and high school. Perhaps I should
have used the word cursive instead of script as you seem to have totally
misinterpreted my statement to mean something else.

Students must learn printing and writing in cursive before they are taught
typing and word processing.

Yep. And they must learn to do basic arithmetic *by hand* even though
calculators and computers are inexpensive and widely available.

73 de Jim, N2EY

In article , "Clint"
rattlehead@computronDOTnet writes:

sending and receiving CW isn't a building block
to anything else.....

Yes, it is.

First, it's a building block to the use of the mode on the air. Although other
services have pretty much stopped using Morse Code, hams use it extensivley,
and an amateur license is permission to operate an amateur station, not a
station in another service. Note that the Morse Code tests are at a very basic
level. They're entry-level, nothing more.

Second, if someone wants to actually design and build radio equipment, having
skill in Morse Code permits them to use almost anything from very simple to
very sophisticated equipment to good advantage. Would you expect a newcomer to
radio to build an SSB transceiver as a first project?

now, the electrical principals of what a CW
transmission is, and a knowledge test of that is a good idea, but
that's comparing apples and oranges.

Why should there be *any* written test on theory if all a person wants to do is
operate manufactured radios? If someone doesn't want to build a rig, why should
they have to memorize all those symbols, diagrams and formulas?

I think most of the PCTA
is being disingenuous when they come up with "good reasons"
to keep CW testing alive;

Why?

I think the true deeper reason lies
somewhere in the "I had to do it so everybody should" relm,
as i've stated before.

You can think what you want, but you're mistaken on that account.

73 de Jim, N2EY