Many of my ancestors met the "real" Nazis and never survived. I think too
many people (including Clint) use the term without really knowing what
implication it truly has. As to me admitting defeat, he is just
exercising
wishful thinking.

Arnie -
KT4ST


well, this argument, like all of the PCTA arguments, is easy to knock over
the fence and make a home run out of... right out of the ballpark, so here
goes...

if you want to claim knowledge and right of discussion on a matter due to
your lineage OR your association proximity to somebody that actually
MET a person/group/insert noun of choice, then allow me to
inform you that I had an uncle that actually served in the european theater
as well as one that served in the south pacific against the japanese.
A little closer to me in age than a grandfather, greatgrandfather, or third
cousin twice removed on your mother's side sevearl generations back
by marriage to the local meat butcher or whatever. Until the passing
of my uncle who served in europe (and god bless, didn't get killed),
I was able to speak directly to him on the matter and got first hand
knowledge.

And know for one more bit of educational matter, if your cranium has
the capacity to absorb data at this rate..... if the learning process
of the human race were limited to contemporary times, and there
were no history books (as socialists would love dream of), and
there were no processes by which a person could be educated
to more than his 5 senses could teach him, than civilization could
not exist; we would never advance to one digree, to the nth degree,
to NO point whatsoever if the learning process weren't available
to us to discover that which we haven't found to be true
with our own experience. You would not be aware that this is
but one planet in a 9-planet solar system; that one hundred
million plus one hundred million equals TWO hundred million...
or any other fact or detail that could not be learned in a single
solatary person's lifetime on thier own.

So don't try to claim that a person can't know anything unless
he or she saw it for themselves, and couldn't learn it through
thier elders. It quickly makes you appear as though you don't
understand the process of education and, therefore, must
have NONE yourself.

Clint
KB5ZHT