On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:23:43 -0500, ARRL Sucks wrote:

The ARRL is a Yankee organization, run by Yankees
who think the center of the universe is New England.

Hams in Hawaii have been asking for years to have
QST bulk air-mailed to Hawaii, the same as all other
publishers do to ensure timely delivery. ARRL has
been farting off Hawaii hams for years. Screw the
League!

This issue has been kicking around the ARRL Pacific Division
"cabinet" for almost 15 years that I know of (I was in same until 4
years ago). The problem is that the Postal Service wants a big hunk
of money for air mail to individual subscribers - the League would
have to assess a healthy surcharge to Pacific Section members to
make up the difference. You don't want that sort of "special
treatment".

Conversely, contracting bulk-shipping and local mailing out to a
third party is not cheap either - same surcharge problem, same "you
don't want to have to pay it".

The third option that major periodicals take is to electronically
ship the copy to Honolulu and print it there. That works only
for large volume - not for the several thousand ARRL members in the
Section.

I wish there was a better solution.

The glories of living in Paradise, eh?

Aloha

M'halo.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 04:10:35 GMT, "Phil Kane"
wrote:

This issue has been kicking around the ARRL Pacific Division
"cabinet" for almost 15 years that I know of (I was in same until 4
years ago). The problem is that the Postal Service wants a big hunk
of money for air mail to individual subscribers - the League would
have to assess a healthy surcharge to Pacific Section members to
make up the difference. You don't want that sort of "special
treatment".

No doubt, every annual paying member, no matter where they are, would
be feeling the bite of higher member and subscription fees. It would
be the feasible thing to do to give "special treatment" to those in
the Pacific Division. This may in fact be another reason why the
Pacific Division isn't given "special treatment"

Stacey/AA7YA

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 04:24:18 -0700, S. Hanrahan wrote:

This issue has been kicking around the ARRL Pacific Division
"cabinet" for almost 15 years that I know of (I was in same until 4
years ago). The problem is that the Postal Service wants a big hunk
of money for air mail to individual subscribers - the League would
have to assess a healthy surcharge to Pacific Section members to
make up the difference. You don't want that sort of "special
treatment".

No doubt, every annual paying member, no matter where they are, would
be feeling the bite of higher member and subscription fees. It would
be the feasible thing to do to give "special treatment" to those in
the Pacific Division. This may in fact be another reason why the
Pacific Division isn't given "special treatment"

Huh? "feasible thing to do to give "special treatment" to those in
the Pacific Division" ?? Do you mean "not feasible thing to do"?

Also, you are confusing the Pacific Division (Northern California,
Nevada, and Hawaii and other US territory in the Pacific) with the
Pacific Section which covers Hawaii and the other US territory in
the Pacific. The portion of the Pacific Division exclusive of the
Pacific Section does not need and has not asked for "special treatment".

The new Pacific Division Director, Bob Vallio, is a long-time friend
of mine who does not stand for any nonsense. We will see what will
happen, and anyhow I'm not in that Division any more so I have
no say in what will happen except to relay the history of this issue.


Stacey/AA7YA

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
(ARRL Northwestern Division, Oregon Section)