The ARRL leaves that up to the local Public Information Officers. These are
un-elected positions within the section.

The ball was dropped apparantly, or they were just too busy to bother.
Then after the event, the press isn't interested.

It's been like that for years. I agree...we need to start blowing our own
horns.

Dan/W4NTI

"Ryan, KC8PMX" wrote in message
...
I am gonna stab myself in the foot for this one before any of you all want
to, but what I think Lennie is trying to get at, is that nowhere in the
media has amateur radio taken any form of the spotlight on this event. I
was sick for the past six or seven days and spent alot of time home
watching
tv between resting. Nowhere did I see anything mentioned about ham radio.

On a positive note, this would have been a great example of showing how
valuable ham radio is supposed to be. It wouldn't cost the arrl much to
send
press releases of this to the major networks, Hell, I chip in for the
stamps
if that is the case!!!!!! Remember, a good defense is a good offense!
(
arrl claims to "defend" amateur radio)


This is one of those one in a million times I would even vaguely come
close
to agreeing with Lennie the License-less. I think I am gonna have
nightmares now!



--
Ryan KC8PMX

Some people are like Slinkies . . . not really good for anything, but you
still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
link.net...

"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
"Dan/W4NTI"
w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

All the ARRL news seems to be AFTER-the-fact "reporting,"

LHA

Thats what makes the ARRL a legitimate news source for Amateur Radio
information.

So...you are saying that ALL amateur radio information is always
late?

Whatever happened to the National Traffic System? You know,
those dittyboppers still thinking that "CW" is the bestest thing
since sliced bread?

CNN, Fox, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC are covering the California
Firestorms in real time, "live" as you civilian non-broadcasters
call it. Have ANY of those TV news services "covered" anything of
amateur radio emergency/disaster teams heroically working to
aid the public? When and where did they "work" that scene?

Feel free to report all tha news in a month, long after
containment.

Not like CNN, which I am SURE you watch, that makes it up as
they go.

17 dead, over 1500 homes destroyed, over a million acres burned
(over 800 square miles), over $2 Billion in damages, and
firestorms
are still raging in two major areas. One of NBC's remote vans got
caught in the fire and destroyed, crew (Chuck Henry at the mike)
saved by a fire crew. Live, on-air courtesy of another TV crew.

Hardly "making it up as they go along."

...and all you can do is mean-mouth individuals that don't love,
honor, and cherish morsemanship?

LHA

Poor Poor Lennie, he is getting worse and worse. He fails to
comprehend
that professional news reporters get paid, and by golly, its their job.

The ARRL is more interested in compilling the events and accuratly
reporting
the information to the amateur community. Not you Lennie, since you
not
a
licensed operator.

And of course the ham operators are not in the news. They hardly ever
are.
Real emergency operators don't seek publicity. They are there to do a
job
and don't have time for talking with paid reporters. They are much too
busy
trying to save lives.

As for your 'swipe' at the National Traffic System. It is fine and
going
strong Lennie. I operate both SSB and CW sessions on a nightly basis.
Not
to mention my Military Affiliate Radio System networks.

Tell me Lennie....what do you contribute to your community and nation?

Dan/W4NTI

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
k.net...
The ARRL leaves that up to the local Public Information Officers. These
are
un-elected positions within the section.

The ball was dropped apparantly, or they were just too busy to bother.
Then after the event, the press isn't interested.

It's been like that for years. I agree...we need to start blowing our
own
horns.

Dan/W4NTI


We all can work with our local (within state) media outlets as either a club
function or as an individual when our local groups are doing cool stuff or
good things. We still could use the positive exposure when it comes to
larger scale events like the wildfires or similar from the larger media
outlets such as the press, and of course the large networks like CBS, ABC,
NBC, FOX, MSNBC, CNN (and whatever other initials we can come up with.
There inlies the need for a group, large in scale, allegedly like the Arrl,
to do press releases or build contacts within the media etc. Groups like
the arrl have the alleged clout and size to catch the attention of the
larger media outlets.

Doing a comparison with another group that I am guessing that a good
percentage of the group here is eligible for..... AARP! More people know a
heck of alot more about the AARP than the ARRL..... And both are important
to both groups.



--
Ryan KC8PMX

Some people are like Slinkies . . . not really good for anything, but you
still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.






"Ryan, KC8PMX" wrote in message
...
I am gonna stab myself in the foot for this one before any of you all
want
to, but what I think Lennie is trying to get at, is that nowhere in the
media has amateur radio taken any form of the spotlight on this event.
I
was sick for the past six or seven days and spent alot of time home
watching
tv between resting. Nowhere did I see anything mentioned about ham
radio.

On a positive note, this would have been a great example of showing how
valuable ham radio is supposed to be. It wouldn't cost the arrl much to
send
press releases of this to the major networks, Hell, I chip in for the
stamps
if that is the case!!!!!! Remember, a good defense is a good offense!
(
arrl claims to "defend" amateur radio)


This is one of those one in a million times I would even vaguely come
close
to agreeing with Lennie the License-less. I think I am gonna have
nightmares now!



--
Ryan KC8PMX

Some people are like Slinkies . . . not really good for anything, but
you
still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
link.net...

"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
"Dan/W4NTI"
w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

All the ARRL news seems to be AFTER-the-fact "reporting,"

LHA

Thats what makes the ARRL a legitimate news source for Amateur
Radio
information.

So...you are saying that ALL amateur radio information is always
late?

Whatever happened to the National Traffic System? You know,
those dittyboppers still thinking that "CW" is the bestest thing
since sliced bread?

CNN, Fox, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC are covering the California
Firestorms in real time, "live" as you civilian non-broadcasters
call it. Have ANY of those TV news services "covered" anything
of
amateur radio emergency/disaster teams heroically working to
aid the public? When and where did they "work" that scene?

Feel free to report all tha news in a month, long after
containment.

Not like CNN, which I am SURE you watch, that makes it up as
they go.

17 dead, over 1500 homes destroyed, over a million acres burned
(over 800 square miles), over $2 Billion in damages, and
firestorms
are still raging in two major areas. One of NBC's remote vans
got
caught in the fire and destroyed, crew (Chuck Henry at the mike)
saved by a fire crew. Live, on-air courtesy of another TV crew.

Hardly "making it up as they go along."

...and all you can do is mean-mouth individuals that don't love,
honor, and cherish morsemanship?

LHA

Poor Poor Lennie, he is getting worse and worse. He fails to
comprehend
that professional news reporters get paid, and by golly, its their
job.

The ARRL is more interested in compilling the events and accuratly
reporting
the information to the amateur community. Not you Lennie, since you
not
a
licensed operator.

And of course the ham operators are not in the news. They hardly ever
are.
Real emergency operators don't seek publicity. They are there to do a
job
and don't have time for talking with paid reporters. They are much
too
busy
trying to save lives.

As for your 'swipe' at the National Traffic System. It is fine and
going
strong Lennie. I operate both SSB and CW sessions on a nightly basis.
Not
to mention my Military Affiliate Radio System networks.

Tell me Lennie....what do you contribute to your community and nation?

Dan/W4NTI