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ARRL has no FIRE for sale?
As of 1300 EST on 27 Oct 03, the ARRL news page has not one
word about the many fires in California which have consumed a quarter million acres (half the land area of Rhode Island), over 500 homes destroyed, over 11 dead, now in its 5th day. Over 5000 firemen are deployed and personnel and equipment from six western states are arriving to help firefighters in an area from Ventura County to the Mexican border. Where are all the "emergency ham teams" who are supposed to jump like minutemen into all the disaster work? All the ARRL news page has on it are a single "In Brief" squib about "Montana hams receive recognition" for the long-past Montana wildfires. PAST news. The nice comfy northereasterners apparently don't recognize much of the western states of the USA, hardly have in the past. They only consider hurricanes and floods as emergencies...because those things happen in the east. Nice "representation of all" by the League? Yup, there's the premier amateur radio communications outfit sitting up there in Newington with the Internet at its disposal (not to mention W1AW) and can't get the word out. Too busy being "representative for all amateurs?" Lots of nice newsy stuff elsewhere, especially localized along the east coast. Center of population for the USA is well WEST of the Mississippi and California has the greatest population of any state in the Union and on par in population with all of Canada. Apparently "6-land" doesn't exist in the thinking of new englanders. LHA |
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
As of 1300 EST on 27 Oct 03, the ARRL news page has not one word http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2003/10/27/2/?nc=1 as of 1640 EST. Rest of Len's typical ARRL bashing snipped. |
"Len Over 21" wrote in message ... Apparently "6-land" doesn't exist in the thinking of new englanders. I'm sure they are like the rest of the country... We all know that California is there - but we try not to dwell on it too much. Most likely, you are not hearing news reports by hams in the west because they are currently too busy doing something useful. One pattern I've noted over the years is that reporting of ham involvement in emergencies generally has a significant time-lag. I'm not saying that this is good or bad; I'm just saying that that's how it generally goes. P.S. Is it really true that they call California the "cereal bowl state" because once you get past all the fruits and nuts, the only thing left are the flakes? Charles ( No Texas jokes, please! ) Brabham, N5PVL |
"ARRL Sucks" wrote in message ... The ARRL is a Yankee organization, run by Yankees who think the center of the universe is New England. Hams in Hawaii have been asking for years to have QST bulk air-mailed to Hawaii, the same as all other publishers do to ensure timely delivery. ARRL has been farting off Hawaii hams for years. Screw the League! Aloha The ARRL has contracted their publishing and do not do it themselves. Perhaps you should contact the publisher/printer ? Dan/W4NTI |
Jim,
Len should subscribe to our newspaper. Late sports info is printed *two* days later. He may not understand that it takes time for information to be collected and printed (even if only on the internet). I only wish that my worst problems were the ARRL and CW vs no code. LOL. These guys are going to drop from coronaries or stroke long before their time. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA "N2EY" wrote in message om... (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... As of 1300 EST on 27 Oct 03, the ARRL news page has not one word http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2003/10/27/2/?nc=1 as of 1640 EST. Rest of Len's typical ARRL bashing snipped. |
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote:
"ARRL Sucks" wrote in message ... The ARRL is a Yankee organization, run by Yankees who think the center of the universe is New England. Hams in Hawaii have been asking for years to have QST bulk air-mailed to Hawaii, the same as all other publishers do to ensure timely delivery. ARRL has been farting off Hawaii hams for years. Screw the League! Aloha The ARRL has contracted their publishing and do not do it themselves. Perhaps you should contact the publisher/printer ? The ARRL is ultimately responsible for the production and delivery of their magazine, however much they may choose to contract out; the printer will do whatever the ARRL will pay them to do, within reasonable limits. It's the ARRL's decision. -- Jack Hamilton If men are to wait for liberty until they become wise and good in slavery, they may indeed wait for ever. - Lord MacCaulay |
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N2EY wrote:
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ... As of 1300 EST on 27 Oct 03, the ARRL news page has not one word http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2003/10/27/2/?nc=1 as of 1640 EST. This leaves Len munching his brogans once again. Rest of Len's typical ARRL bashing snipped. Hasn't Len made it clear on any number of occasions that he is not anti-ARRL? Dave K8MN |
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In article , "charlesb"
writes: "Len Over 21" wrote in message ... Apparently "6-land" doesn't exist in the thinking of new englanders. I'm sure they are like the rest of the country... We all know that California is there - but we try not to dwell on it too much. More than one tenth of ALL Americans live in California, dumbass. It's the most populous state in the Union. Or did you think Tay-hass seceeded from the Union again? Most likely, you are not hearing news reports by hams in the west because they are currently too busy doing something useful. Such as? While I can't get much reach outside of NVIS' 300 km radius from these hills, I didn't hear anything on any HF ham band nets. They are "doing something useful" just like they did in the 1994 Northridge quake...getting the hell out...MOST LIKELY. One pattern I've noted over the years is that reporting of ham involvement in emergencies generally has a significant time-lag. I'm not saying that this is good or bad; I'm just saying that that's how it generally goes. Radio waves propagate at faster than 180 thousand miles per second, dumbass. Are all these "emergency workers" getting organized by mean old telephone landline? Don't they know that "telephones always fail during emergencies and disasters?" [they are always saying that in here] P.S. Is it really true that they call California the "cereal bowl state" because once you get past all the fruits and nuts, the only thing left are the flakes? No. California has a tremendous agribusiness that feeds most of the western, mountain, and middle western states. Texas couldn't possibly do near as well...they try with steer and say that their steer manure is "manna." Charles ( No Texas jokes, please! ) Brabham, N5PVL Don't have a cow, dumbass. LHA |
In article , Dave Heil
writes: N2EY wrote: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... As of 1300 EST on 27 Oct 03, the ARRL news page has not one word http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2003/10/27/2/?nc=1 as of 1640 EST. This leaves Len munching his brogans once again. Shut the hell up, you little USMC feldwebel. Learn to READ English. As of 1 PM EST on the 27th of October the ARRL website news page had NOTHING about the California wildfires. NOTHING. Go "munch" someone else's shoes, preferrably some CROW as dessert. Rest of Len's typical ARRL bashing snipped. Hasn't Len made it clear on any number of occasions that he is not anti-ARRL? ARRL is an EASTERN headquartered organization, more specifically in the northeastern USA. ARRL doesn't seem to recognize that MOST of the USA lives WEST of the Mississippi...including licensed US radio amateurs. I'm not "anti-ARRL." I'm just showing what they are and what they are NOT. What they are NOT is NOT "representing ALL amateurs." ARRL is eastern-oriented, almost obsessively so in concentration east of the Mississippi. Not my problem. It's ARRL's problem. Maybe that's why ARRL membership remains a minority of all licensed US radio amateurs (only a quarter). All the ARRL "represents" is its membership...but mostly it is the executives and staff and board of directors of the ARRL that is represented. Membership has to fall in line with that or be excommunicated. To bad about your demotion in the United States Morse Codists (USMC). You deserved it, though. Enjoy. LHA |
Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Dave Heil writes: N2EY wrote: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... As of 1300 EST on 27 Oct 03, the ARRL news page has not one word http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2003/10/27/2/?nc=1 as of 1640 EST. This leaves Len munching his brogans once again. Shut the hell up, you little USMC feldwebel. Learn to READ English. As of 1 PM EST on the 27th of October the ARRL website news page had NOTHING about the California wildfires. NOTHING. Go "munch" someone else's shoes, preferrably some CROW as dessert. Rest of Len's typical ARRL bashing snipped. Hasn't Len made it clear on any number of occasions that he is not anti-ARRL? ARRL is an EASTERN headquartered organization, more specifically in the northeastern USA. ARRL doesn't seem to recognize that MOST of the USA lives WEST of the Mississippi...including licensed US radio amateurs. I'm not "anti-ARRL." I'm just showing what they are and what they are NOT. What they are NOT is NOT "representing ALL amateurs." ARRL is eastern-oriented, almost obsessively so in concentration east of the Mississippi. Not my problem. It's ARRL's problem. Maybe that's why ARRL membership remains a minority of all licensed US radio amateurs (only a quarter). All the ARRL "represents" is its membership...but mostly it is the executives and staff and board of directors of the ARRL that is represented. Membership has to fall in line with that or be excommunicated. To bad about your demotion in the United States Morse Codists (USMC). You deserved it, though. Enjoy. LHA Len, to kern an old phrase, "you don't know **** from Shinola". Now why don't you go over to the cb group where you might find folks more down on your lever? |
"Len Over 21" wrote in message ... In article , "charlesb" writes: "Len Over 21" wrote in message ... Apparently "6-land" doesn't exist in the thinking of new englanders. I'm sure they are like the rest of the country... We all know that California is there - but we try not to dwell on it too much. More than one tenth of ALL Americans live in California, dumbass. Sorry, but you cannot count California's illegal immigrant population as "Americans", though technically they are. Moron. Charles Brabham, N5PVL |
"Jack Hamilton" wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote: "ARRL Sucks" wrote in message ... The ARRL is a Yankee organization, run by Yankees who think the center of the universe is New England. Hams in Hawaii have been asking for years to have QST bulk air-mailed to Hawaii, the same as all other publishers do to ensure timely delivery. ARRL has been farting off Hawaii hams for years. Screw the League! Aloha The ARRL has contracted their publishing and do not do it themselves. Perhaps you should contact the publisher/printer ? The ARRL is ultimately responsible for the production and delivery of their magazine, however much they may choose to contract out; the printer will do whatever the ARRL will pay them to do, within reasonable limits. It's the ARRL's decision. -- Jack Hamilton If men are to wait for liberty until they become wise and good in slavery, they may indeed wait for ever. - Lord MacCaulay No it is not. The major problem is the Hawaii hams want first class service and not have to pay for it. The block is actually with the postal service who has contracted have all bulk mail to Hawaii sent by boat. Dan/W4NTI |
In article , JJ
writes: Len, to kern an old phrase, "you don't know **** from Shinola". Now why don't you go over to the cb group where you might find folks more down on your lever? "Kern?!?" Who the hell are YOU, "JJ?" You one of them "knuckle-dragging CB-plussers?" You can REPEAT a phrase (write it verbatim) or make subtle changes to PARAPHRASE it or you can invent a new phrase as if to COIN it. "Kern" refers to particulars in the shape of type fonts...you can kern a character's appearance but you CANNOT kern a phrase. ARRL doesn't pretend to represent any Citizens Band Radio Service users. There's no license for CB in the USA. There has NEVER been any test for CB ever, not once since it was created 45 years ago. Morse code was never, ever required in USA CB...and CB does exist IN the HF spectrum. ARRL pretends to "represent" all radio amateurs but all it REALLY represents is the opinion of a minority in control of a minority membership that has not exceeded a quarter of all licensed U. S. radio amateurs. LHA |
Len under 21 wet his pants and wrote:
In article , JJ writes: Len, to kern an old phrase, "you don't know **** from Shinola". Now why don't you go over to the cb group where you might find folks more down on your lever? "Kern?!?" Who the hell are YOU, "JJ?" You one of them "knuckle-dragging CB-plussers?" You can REPEAT a phrase (write it verbatim) or make subtle changes to PARAPHRASE it or you can invent a new phrase as if to COIN it. "Kern" refers to particulars in the shape of type fonts...you can kern a character's appearance but you CANNOT kern a phrase. ARRL doesn't pretend to represent any Citizens Band Radio Service users. There's no license for CB in the USA. There has NEVER been any test for CB ever, not once since it was created 45 years ago. Morse code was never, ever required in USA CB...and CB does exist IN the HF spectrum. ARRL pretends to "represent" all radio amateurs but all it REALLY represents is the opinion of a minority in control of a minority membership that has not exceeded a quarter of all licensed U. S. radio amateurs. LHA I have been a ham for over 40 years, so how long have you been one? "Kern" is the word Ed Norton use for coin in the "Honeymooners". My use of it is just a valid as you saying "one of them" instead of "one of those". Good grief you are dumb. Why should the ARRL pretend to represent the CB Radio Service? It was established to represent the Amateur operators long before CB ever came into being. Who would want to represent the sewer pit of communication that CB has become? Why would they want to represent a bunch of idiots who haven't a clue as how to properly use radio communication, that operate in a number of illegal ways and cause general havoc on the radio spectrum. The ARRL should not touch CB with a 10 foot pole. Morse code was never, ever required in USA CB...and CB does exist IN the HF spectrum And there are a lot of other users of the HF spectrum that do not require knowledge of Morse code. When it comes to the code issue the subject is Amateur radio not the chicken band. So what's you point? So who in the hell are you? Just another knuckle dragging dumb cber I suppose. As I said, "you don't know **** from Shinola". |
In article , JJ
writes: I have been a ham for over 40 years, so how long have you been one? I was on HF legally beginning in February 1953, a 1 KW BC-339, one of 36 total transmitters at Army station ADA...increased to 43 by 1956. I got my first radio operator license from a single test at an FCC field office in Chicago in March, 1956 (First Class Radiotelephone). I've never had, or tried to get, any amateur radio license. Mostly because I've been a professional in radio-electronics for a half century. You know what? The FCC doesn't require any commissioners or staff to have amateur radio licenses in order to MAKE regulations concerning amateur radio. How about that!? "Kern" is the word Ed Norton use for coin in the "Honeymooners". My use of it is just a valid as you saying "one of them" instead of "one of those". Good grief you are dumb. The "Honeymooners" went OFF the air long ago. Jackie Gleason left this world a long time ago. Not everyone was a fan of a New York based TV show on CBS during the black and white years. DOS Tip: Not everyone speaks in New Yorkese or Jerseyish or buys "gaz" for his auto while in Philly. And there are a lot of other users of the HF spectrum that do not require knowledge of Morse code. When it comes to the code issue the subject is Amateur radio not the chicken band. So what's you point? The subject is NOT old black-and-white broadcast television, either. So who in the hell are you? Just another knuckle dragging dumb cber I suppose. As I said, "you don't know **** from Shinola". Leonard H. Anderson You want my mailing address? Look in the FCC ECFS for the 14 petitions for and against amateur radio code testing. You will find my name and address and comments in there, at least two documents per RM. I don't work with feces and I don't make shoe polish. I'm a professional in radio-electronics who has not hidden his identity. YOU on the other hand, HIDE behind a couple letters and act tuff. No USA database lists any "JJ" as the name of any licensed radio amateur. Perhaps a foreign country might have it? :-) Insufficient courage to reveal your identity "JJ?" Or are you going to rationalize your gutless fear somehow? LHA |
Why should the ARRL pretend to represent the CB Radio Service? It was established to represent the Amateur operators long before CB ever came into being. Who would want to represent the sewer pit of communication that CB has become? Why would they want to represent a bunch of idiots who haven't a clue as how to properly use radio communication, that operate in a number of illegal ways and cause general havoc on the radio spectrum. The ARRL should not touch CB with a 10 foot pole. I wouldn't touch it with an 11 meter pole. :-) Morse code was never, ever required in USA CB...and CB does exist IN the HF spectrum CB is not amateur, and one of the rules of the CB service is no international comms. Not that it's enforced...... "you don't know **** from Shinola". Well, you can't polish a turd...... ;-) |
Len over 21 wet his pants again and blathered:
In article , JJ writes: I have been a ham for over 40 years, so how long have you been one? I was on HF legally beginning in February 1953, a 1 KW BC-339, one of 36 total transmitters at Army station ADA...increased to 43 by 1956. I got my first radio operator license from a single test at an FCC field office in Chicago in March, 1956 (First Class Radiotelephone). And that has nothing to do with amateur radio. There were/are lots of military radio operators operating military HF gear. I've never had, or tried to get, any amateur radio license. Mostly because I've been a professional in radio-electronics for a half century. You know what? The FCC doesn't require any commissioners or staff to have amateur radio licenses in order to MAKE regulations concerning amateur radio. How about that!? And your point is? "Kern" is the word Ed Norton use for coin in the "Honeymooners". My use of it is just a valid as you saying "one of them" instead of "one of those". Good grief you are dumb. The "Honeymooners" went OFF the air long ago. Jackie Gleason left this world a long time ago. Not everyone was a fan of a New York based TV show on CBS during the black and white years. DOS Tip: Not everyone speaks in New Yorkese or Jerseyish or buys "gaz" for his auto while in Philly. And there are a lot of other users of the HF spectrum that do not require knowledge of Morse code. When it comes to the code issue the subject is Amateur radio not the chicken band. So what's you point? The subject is NOT old black-and-white broadcast television, either. So who in the hell are you? Just another knuckle dragging dumb cber I suppose. As I said, "you don't know **** from Shinola". Leonard H. Anderson You want my mailing address? Look in the FCC ECFS for the 14 petitions for and against amateur radio code testing. You will find my name and address and comments in there, at least two documents per RM. I don't work with feces and I don't make shoe polish. I'm a professional in radio-electronics who has not hidden his identity. A turd is a turd is a turd. YOU on the other hand, HIDE behind a couple letters and act tuff. No USA database lists any "JJ" as the name of any licensed radio amateur. Perhaps a foreign country might have it? :-) Insufficient courage to reveal your identity "JJ?" Or are you going to rationalize your gutless fear somehow? LHA Since you do not hold an amateur radio operator's license nor seem to care about ever getting one, what business is it of yours if the amateur service has code testing or not? So what is your purpose for all the petitions on amateur testing? You seem to think it is strange that the FCC does not require those making rules concerning amateur radio to hold an amateur license, yet you, without holding an amateur radio license, can file petitons concerning amateur radio. How about that? Since you seem to have such a hard on about the amateur radio service, of which you are not even a member, why do you even bother? Why does it bother you about what the ARRL is doing, or if the hams are or aren't handling emergency comms in Calif. Perhaps you are just one of those types who sticks your nose into things that don't concern you just to stir the pot, or perhaps you can't pass the test for a license. |
SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX010
ARLX010 Amateurs Aid Agencies in California Fire Emergency ZCZC AX10 QST de W1AW Special Bulletin 10 ARLX010 From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT October 28, 2003 To all radio amateurs SB SPCL ARL ARLX010 ARLX010 Amateurs Aid Agencies in California Fire Emergency Amateur Radio Emergency Service (ARES) and Radio Amateur Civil Emergency Service (RACES) teams are assisting local authorities and relief organizations as fire has burned more than 500,000 acres in southern California. Authorities report 11 separate fires have erupted and more than a dozen people have died. ARRL San Diego Section Manager Kent Tiburski, K6FQ, estimated that about 100 ham ARES and RACES volunteers are participating in his section, where most of the fatalities took place. Amateurs are supporting the Red Cross and The Salvation Army and staffing six shelters throughout San Diego county. Additional hams have deployed to San Diego-area emergency management offices and hospitals. Communication is mainly taking place on VHF. The San Diego ARES Net has been activated on 7.233 MHz with 3.905 MHz as a backup. The Salvation Army Team Emergency Radio Network (SATERN) also has been using 7.233 MHz as a coordinating frequency. San Diego-Area SATERN Coordinator Paul Cook, N6RPF, reports that SATERN has helped with communication for a number of busy canteens in the San Diego area. In San Bernardino County, Orange SM Carl Gardenias, WU6D, said ARES volunteers have been supporting emergency communication in the county. ARRL Los Angeles SM Phineas Icenbice, W6BF, reports ARES members from his section have been assisting volunteers in the Orange and San Diego Sections. Los Angeles SEC Dennis Smith, KA6GSE, says ARES volunteers from the section also are helping at Red Cross shelters in LA. NNNN /EX |
"JJ" wrote in message ... Len over 21 wet his pants again and blathered: In article , JJ writes: I have been a ham for over 40 years, so how long have you been one? I was on HF legally beginning in February 1953, a 1 KW BC-339, one of 36 total transmitters at Army station ADA...increased to 43 by 1956. I got my first radio operator license from a single test at an FCC field office in Chicago in March, 1956 (First Class Radiotelephone). And that has nothing to do with amateur radio. There were/are lots of military radio operators operating military HF gear. I've never had, or tried to get, any amateur radio license. Mostly because I've been a professional in radio-electronics for a half century. You know what? The FCC doesn't require any commissioners or staff to have amateur radio licenses in order to MAKE regulations concerning amateur radio. How about that!? And your point is? "Kern" is the word Ed Norton use for coin in the "Honeymooners". My use of it is just a valid as you saying "one of them" instead of "one of those". Good grief you are dumb. The "Honeymooners" went OFF the air long ago. Jackie Gleason left this world a long time ago. Not everyone was a fan of a New York based TV show on CBS during the black and white years. DOS Tip: Not everyone speaks in New Yorkese or Jerseyish or buys "gaz" for his auto while in Philly. And there are a lot of other users of the HF spectrum that do not require knowledge of Morse code. When it comes to the code issue the subject is Amateur radio not the chicken band. So what's you point? The subject is NOT old black-and-white broadcast television, either. So who in the hell are you? Just another knuckle dragging dumb cber I suppose. As I said, "you don't know **** from Shinola". Leonard H. Anderson You want my mailing address? Look in the FCC ECFS for the 14 petitions for and against amateur radio code testing. You will find my name and address and comments in there, at least two documents per RM. I don't work with feces and I don't make shoe polish. I'm a professional in radio-electronics who has not hidden his identity. A turd is a turd is a turd. YOU on the other hand, HIDE behind a couple letters and act tuff. No USA database lists any "JJ" as the name of any licensed radio amateur. Perhaps a foreign country might have it? :-) Insufficient courage to reveal your identity "JJ?" Or are you going to rationalize your gutless fear somehow? LHA Since you do not hold an amateur radio operator's license nor seem to care about ever getting one, what business is it of yours if the amateur service has code testing or not? So what is your purpose for all the petitions on amateur testing? You seem to think it is strange that the FCC does not require those making rules concerning amateur radio to hold an amateur license, yet you, without holding an amateur radio license, can file petitons concerning amateur radio. How about that? Since you seem to have such a hard on about the amateur radio service, of which you are not even a member, why do you even bother? Why does it bother you about what the ARRL is doing, or if the hams are or aren't handling emergency comms in Calif. Perhaps you are just one of those types who sticks your nose into things that don't concern you just to stir the pot, or perhaps you can't pass the test for a license. JJ, In a language LHA can understand (assuming he actually was in the military).......He is a DIP****, or in Naval speak....he is a BLIVIT. Dan/W4NTI |
Poor Lennie....caught in ANOTHER LIE.
Dan/W4NTI "charlesb" wrote in message .. . SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX010 ARLX010 Amateurs Aid Agencies in California Fire Emergency ZCZC AX10 QST de W1AW Special Bulletin 10 ARLX010 From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT October 28, 2003 To all radio amateurs SB SPCL ARL ARLX010 ARLX010 Amateurs Aid Agencies in California Fire Emergency Amateur Radio Emergency Service (ARES) and Radio Amateur Civil Emergency Service (RACES) teams are assisting local authorities and relief organizations as fire has burned more than 500,000 acres in southern California. Authorities report 11 separate fires have erupted and more than a dozen people have died. ARRL San Diego Section Manager Kent Tiburski, K6FQ, estimated that about 100 ham ARES and RACES volunteers are participating in his section, where most of the fatalities took place. Amateurs are supporting the Red Cross and The Salvation Army and staffing six shelters throughout San Diego county. Additional hams have deployed to San Diego-area emergency management offices and hospitals. Communication is mainly taking place on VHF. The San Diego ARES Net has been activated on 7.233 MHz with 3.905 MHz as a backup. The Salvation Army Team Emergency Radio Network (SATERN) also has been using 7.233 MHz as a coordinating frequency. San Diego-Area SATERN Coordinator Paul Cook, N6RPF, reports that SATERN has helped with communication for a number of busy canteens in the San Diego area. In San Bernardino County, Orange SM Carl Gardenias, WU6D, said ARES volunteers have been supporting emergency communication in the county. ARRL Los Angeles SM Phineas Icenbice, W6BF, reports ARES members from his section have been assisting volunteers in the Orange and San Diego Sections. Los Angeles SEC Dennis Smith, KA6GSE, says ARES volunteers from the section also are helping at Red Cross shelters in LA. NNNN /EX |
In article . net, "Dan/W4NTI"
w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes: Poor Lennie....caught in ANOTHER LIE. Dan/W4NTI No Dannie boy, NOT a "lie." Go back a day to message that started this thread. ARRL had NO mention of the already- widespread California firestorms up to 1 PM EST. Have you learned to READ yet? Or are you still unable to cope with reality? LHA |
In article . net, "Dan/W4NTI"
w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes: JJ, In a language LHA can understand (assuming he actually was in the military).......He is a DIP****, or in Naval speak....he is a BLIVIT. Dan/W4NTI Poor Dan. We still haven't found the right replacement parts to fix his stupid. You need confirmation of my U. S. military service, Dannie? Contact NARA in St. Louis (National Archives and Records Agency). It's all there. Have them search for Army serial number RA16408336 beginning March 13, 1952. LHA |
In article , "charlesb"
writes: SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX010 ARLX010 Amateurs Aid Agencies in California Fire Emergency ZCZC AX10 QST de W1AW Special Bulletin 10 ARLX010 From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT October 28, 2003 To all radio amateurs That "news copy" was on the ARRL website opening page. There is NO corroboration of that information with any other commercial news service. ARRL is NOT a news service despite play-acting as if they were. If the ARRL was a news service, they would have put that information out at least four days before the 27th of October, AFTER the wildfires had begun and weather reports indicating ideal wildfire conditions. All the ARRL news seems to be AFTER-the-fact "reporting," LHA |
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"Len Over 21" wrote in message ... That "news copy" was on the ARRL website opening page. There is NO corroboration of that information with any other commercial news service. Gee, what an ignorant asshole! Charles Brabham, N5PVL |
Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , (N2EY) writes: http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2003/10/27/2/?nc=1 as of 1640 EST. Rest of Len's typical ARRL bashing snipped. Tsk, tsk, tsk. 5 1/2 days. Then, suddenly, "news" appears on ARRL that Something Is Happening Out West...a bit over two hours after I posted a No News Statement. It is obvious that someone from HQ--probably that pesky Ed Hare--saw your post and quickly threw something together for the ARRL web site, just to make you look silly. Dave K8MN |
Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Dave Heil writes: N2EY wrote: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... As of 1300 EST on 27 Oct 03, the ARRL news page has not one word http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2003/10/27/2/?nc=1 as of 1640 EST. This leaves Len munching his brogans once again. Shut the hell up, you little USMC feldwebel. Learn to READ English. Temper, temper, kindly old timer. What are you, some kind of CONTROL freak? As of 1 PM EST on the 27th of October the ARRL website news page had NOTHING about the California wildfires. NOTHING. That's right. They had NOTHING. Yet a could of hours later, they had SOMETHING. SOMETHING. Go "munch" someone else's shoes, preferrably some CROW as dessert. I'm not the one who took the potshot at amateur radio and the ARRL only to have it blow up in his face. Rest of Len's typical ARRL bashing snipped. Hasn't Len made it clear on any number of occasions that he is not anti-ARRL? ARRL is an EASTERN headquartered organization, more specifically in the northeastern USA. There are many WESTERN headquartered organizations. Is it your opinion that all organizations should be headquartered near the center of population? If not, why the fuss? ARRL doesn't seem to recognize that MOST of the USA lives WEST of the Mississippi...including licensed US radio amateurs. It doesn't seem that way to me. Directors are representative of the areas in which they live. Why should you be concerned? You aren't involved with the ARRL. I'm not "anti-ARRL." Your frequent statements about the League would indicate otherwise. Would you care to see a few of them googled up? I'm just showing what they are and what they are NOT. What they are NOT is NOT "representing ALL amateurs." How are you "showing" anything? You aren't involved. ARRL is eastern-oriented, almost obsessively so in concentration east of the Mississippi. Not my problem. It's ARRL's problem. No, your errors are your problem. You've gone from making statements about an EASTERN headquarted organization to stating that the ARRL is eastern-oriented. You keep trying to make an issue of something which is not an issue. Maybe that's why ARRL membership remains a minority of all licensed US radio amateurs (only a quarter). Only a quarter? What other amateur radio organization has more than a fraction of that number making up its membership? All the ARRL "represents" is its membership...but mostly it is the executives and staff and board of directors of the ARRL that is represented. AARP claims to represent retirees. The American Legion claims to represent veterans. Labor unions claim to represent workers. The NAACP claims to represent colored people. Membership has to fall in line with that or be excommunicated. If those words came from anyone else, I'd say that they were an error. Since they come from you, I say they're a deliberate untruth. To bad about your demotion in the United States Morse Codists (USMC). You deserved it, though. Enjoy. Take your lithium. Dave K8MN |
"Len Over 21" wrote in message ... In article . net, "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes: Poor Lennie....caught in ANOTHER LIE. Dan/W4NTI No Dannie boy, NOT a "lie." Go back a day to message that started this thread. ARRL had NO mention of the already- widespread California firestorms up to 1 PM EST. Have you learned to READ yet? Or are you still unable to cope with reality? LHA Poor Lennie, not only caught in a lie, but now trying to cover it up. Not good for a Electronical Mechanic there Lennie. Dan/W4NTI |
"Len Over 21" wrote in message All the ARRL news seems to be AFTER-the-fact "reporting," LHA Thats what makes the ARRL a legitimate news source for Amateur Radio information. Not like CNN, which I am SURE you watch, that makes it up as they go. Dan/W4NTI |
"charlesb" wrote in message m... "Len Over 21" wrote in message ... That "news copy" was on the ARRL website opening page. There is NO corroboration of that information with any other commercial news service. Gee, what an ignorant asshole! Charles Brabham, N5PVL A world class DIP****. Dan/W4NTI |
"Len Over 21" wrote in message ... In article . net, "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes: JJ, In a language LHA can understand (assuming he actually was in the military).......He is a DIP****, or in Naval speak....he is a BLIVIT. Dan/W4NTI Poor Dan. We still haven't found the right replacement parts to fix his stupid. You need confirmation of my U. S. military service, Dannie? Contact NARA in St. Louis (National Archives and Records Agency). It's all there. Have them search for Army serial number RA16408336 beginning March 13, 1952. LHA Why bother Lennie? You know full well they were burned up in that fire. Or don't you? Dan/W4NTI |
"Dave Heil" wrote in message ... Len Over 21 wrote: In article , (N2EY) writes: http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2003/10/27/2/?nc=1 as of 1640 EST. Rest of Len's typical ARRL bashing snipped. Tsk, tsk, tsk. 5 1/2 days. Then, suddenly, "news" appears on ARRL that Something Is Happening Out West...a bit over two hours after I posted a No News Statement. It is obvious that someone from HQ--probably that pesky Ed Hare--saw your post and quickly threw something together for the ARRL web site, just to make you look silly. Dave K8MN Could be Dave, but I think not. Lennie does a great job of showing how silly he is all by himself. He must be a lonely old man. With nothing to do in life but wait around to die. And in the meantime annoy as many folks as possible. He obviously hates ham radio. Probably because his 'higher' in the military was a ham and made Lennie look silly......you think so? Dan/W4NTI |
Dave Heil wrote:
It is obvious that someone from HQ--probably that pesky Ed Hare--saw your post and quickly threw something together for the ARRL web site, just to make you look silly. Dave K8MN Len can look silly enough on his own without any help from the ARRL web site. |
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
He obviously hates ham radio. Probably because his 'higher' in the military was a ham and made Lennie look silly......you think so? Dan/W4NTI More likely because he couldn't pass the test for a ham licnese. |
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w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes: You need confirmation of my U. S. military service, Dannie? Contact NARA in St. Louis (National Archives and Records Agency). It's all there. Have them search for Army serial number RA16408336 beginning March 13, 1952. LHA Why bother Lennie? You know full well they were burned up in that fire. Or don't you? Not mine. Some, yes. Never had any problems with FBI, IRS, etc. on any government agency corroborations of past service records. Tsk, tsk, tsk, you should read ALL the pages at NARA's website, not just the headlines. Give yourself another title again. LHA |
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writes: He obviously hates ham radio. Probably because his 'higher' in the military was a ham and made Lennie look silly......you think so? Dan/W4NTI More likely because he couldn't pass the test for a ham licnese. Yes. True. I went to the FDA and they could only certify me as beef. :-) I traveled 85 miles by rail to Chicago back in '56 (no snow that March, kept my shoes on, no significant hills) and took a REAL test ONCE. At an FCC field office in the Federal Building there. Passed a First Phone test in one session. Only one of the four parts of the test was multiple choice. I'd send you a digitized image of that first First Phone license if you had a real Internet address. But, you have no identity. LHA |
In article . net, "Dan/W4NTI"
w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes: A world class DIP****. Dan/W4NTI Don't give yourself titles...even if you deserve it. LHA |
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