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Old November 12th 03, 02:46 PM
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"If ye love wealth better than liberty,
the tranquility of servitude better than the animating conquest of
freedom,
go home from us in peace.

We ask not your counsel or arms.
Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.
May your chains set lightly upon you,
and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

Samuel Adams, speech on 1st August 1776.



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Old November 12th 03, 11:34 PM
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"Bill Sohl" wrote in message hlink.net...
"If ye love wealth better than liberty,
the tranquility of servitude better than the animating conquest of
freedom,
go home from us in peace.

We ask not your counsel or arms.
Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.
May your chains set lightly upon you,
and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

Samuel Adams, speech on 1st August 1776.


Not everyone likes veterans or thinks they are due any particular
thanks.

Concerning the "Bonus Army" of 1932, where veterans of The War to End
All Wars (1917/1918) were due a bonus in 1945, but wanted payment
early because they lost their homes in the Great Depression, Franklin
Roosevelt is to have said:

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In the end, some money was paid to veterans but not without further
difficulties. Within a year of the Bonus Army Incident, President
Roosevelt imposed the Economy Act of 1933 which cut veterans
disability allowances by 25%. In the effort to cut federal expenses,
veterans were viewed as having inordinate special status over
civilians. During the 1932 election campaign, he had publicly
proclaimed: "No one [merely] because he wore a uniform must therefore
be placed in a special class of beneficiaries over and above all other
citizens. The fact of wearing a uniform does not mean that he can
demand and receive from his government a benefit which no other
citizen receives."
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Read all about it at:

http://www.islandnet.com/~citizenx/bonus.html
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Old November 13th 03, 01:43 AM
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"Brian" wrote

Not everyone likes veterans or thinks they are due any particular
thanks.

Concerning the "Bonus Army" of 1932, where veterans of The War to End
All Wars (1917/1918) were due a bonus in 1945, but wanted payment
early because they lost their homes in the Great Depression, Franklin
Roosevelt is to have said:


.....bunch of ancient rhetoric clipped.

Brian, my boy, don't look now but old Franklin, and Eleanor who probably put
those words in his mouth, since Franklin is widely reckoned to have been
more than just a little bit pussy-whipped, are both dead and buried and
rotted now these almost 60 years ago. Do you suggest that these views
should be endorsed by the current Commander in Chief?

73, de Hans, K0HB






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Old November 13th 03, 01:23 PM
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"KØHB" wrote in message thlink.net...
"Brian" wrote

Not everyone likes veterans or thinks they are due any particular
thanks.

Concerning the "Bonus Army" of 1932, where veterans of The War to End
All Wars (1917/1918) were due a bonus in 1945, but wanted payment
early because they lost their homes in the Great Depression, Franklin
Roosevelt is to have said:


....bunch of ancient rhetoric clipped.

Brian, my boy, don't look now but old Franklin, and Eleanor who probably put
those words in his mouth, since Franklin is widely reckoned to have been
more than just a little bit pussy-whipped, are both dead and buried and
rotted now these almost 60 years ago. Do you suggest that these views
should be endorsed by the current Commander in Chief?

73, de Hans, K0HB


Clinton.
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Old November 14th 03, 06:07 AM
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LHA(jg) wrote

Do you suggest that these views
should be endorsed by the current Commander in Chief?


Clinton.


I'm not a democrat, but I must admit that I saw more than one increase in
veterans/retired military benefits during his administration.

With all kind wishes,

de Hans, K0HB






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Old November 13th 03, 05:20 AM
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"Brian" wrote in message
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Concerning the "Bonus Army" of 1932, where veterans of The War to End
All Wars (1917/1918) were due a bonus in 1945, but wanted payment
early because they lost their homes in the Great Depression, Franklin
Roosevelt is to have said:


"Is to have said?" I would think that Roosevelt has pretty well said what
he is going to, by now!

Also: It's not amazing that Roosevelt would short-change veterans. When the
S.F. dockworkers went on strike during WW2, refusing to load ammo and
supplies for our troops, Roosevelt ordered the shipping companies to cave to
the union demands instead of having a few of the union ringleaders
imprisoned, beaten or shot, as any reasonable person would do with socialist
traitors who attempt to extort and undermine the country during a time of
war.

Charles Brabham, N5PVL




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Old November 13th 03, 09:02 PM
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"charlesb" wrote in message y.com...
"Brian" wrote in message
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Concerning the "Bonus Army" of 1932, where veterans of The War to End
All Wars (1917/1918) were due a bonus in 1945, but wanted payment
early because they lost their homes in the Great Depression, Franklin
Roosevelt is to have said:


"Is to have said?" I would think that Roosevelt has pretty well said what
he is going to, by now!


Does FDR still talk to you?

That's very possible, but I was quoting someone elses research, so
have not verified that is what FDR actually said from a direct source.

But thanks for your interest.

Brian
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Old November 14th 03, 04:46 AM
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Brian wrote:

"charlesb" wrote in message y.com...
"Brian" wrote in message
om...

Concerning the "Bonus Army" of 1932, where veterans of The War to End
All Wars (1917/1918) were due a bonus in 1945, but wanted payment
early because they lost their homes in the Great Depression, Franklin
Roosevelt is to have said:


"Is to have said?" I would think that Roosevelt has pretty well said what
he is going to, by now!


Does FDR still talk to you?

That's very possible, but I was quoting someone elses research, so
have not verified that is what FDR actually said from a direct source.

But thanks for your interest.


Your first clue that the quote is not from Roosevelt is that he is
unlikely to have referred to himself as "President Roosevelt".

Dave K8MN
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Old November 14th 03, 11:15 AM
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Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Brian wrote:

"charlesb" wrote in message y.com...
"Brian" wrote in message
om...

Concerning the "Bonus Army" of 1932, where veterans of The War to End
All Wars (1917/1918) were due a bonus in 1945, but wanted payment
early because they lost their homes in the Great Depression, Franklin
Roosevelt is to have said:


"Is to have said?" I would think that Roosevelt has pretty well said what
he is going to, by now!


Does FDR still talk to you?

That's very possible, but I was quoting someone elses research, so
have not verified that is what FDR actually said from a direct source.

But thanks for your interest.


Your first clue that the quote is not from Roosevelt is that he is
unlikely to have referred to himself as "President Roosevelt".

Dave K8MN


Dave, follow the link (i.e., point and click) in the "Armistice Day"
thread and read it yourself.

Good luck on that one now.

Brian
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Old November 14th 03, 06:51 PM
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Brian wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Brian wrote:

"charlesb" wrote in message y.com...
"Brian" wrote in message
om...

Concerning the "Bonus Army" of 1932, where veterans of The War to End
All Wars (1917/1918) were due a bonus in 1945, but wanted payment
early because they lost their homes in the Great Depression, Franklin
Roosevelt is to have said:


"Is to have said?" I would think that Roosevelt has pretty well said what
he is going to, by now!

Does FDR still talk to you?

That's very possible, but I was quoting someone elses research, so
have not verified that is what FDR actually said from a direct source.

But thanks for your interest.


Your first clue that the quote is not from Roosevelt is that he is
unlikely to have referred to himself as "President Roosevelt".



Dave, follow the link (i.e., point and click) in the "Armistice Day"
thread and read it yourself.

Good luck on that one now.


You posted it *here*. If you didn't copy it correctly, say so.
If you did copy it correctly, whoever posted it is likely in error.

Good luck has nothing to do with it. Just use your noggin.

Dave K8MN


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