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Old December 26th 03, 05:48 PM
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Len, like any Americans who've shown an interest in the ARS, have a
disincentive. It is the Morse requirement for HF access.

Your claim might ring true if Len had bothered to obtain a code-free
ticket at some point. He hasn't.

Of whom are you speaking, old man?


Your name is Len, isn't it, grizzled older man?

I've had HF access several times in the last half century, all legal,
all involving actual communications. No amateur license was
required at any time. No morse skill needed whatsoever.


Your memory must be failing in your dotage. Amateur radio is the topic.


It is?!?!?

I thought it was all about vehicle codes under the subject heading
of "Is Michael Jackson Innocent."


Why would you comment about having had HF access several times in the
past half century to someone's post concerning Michael Jackson? That
wouldn't make sense.

I thought it was all about national economy, presidential politics,
the antics of State, and general subjects that must be dear to
hamhearts everywhere that do NOT touch on amateur radio in
all those other threads.


Why would you insert comments concerning having HF access several times
in the past half century to posts about the national economy,
presidential politics, the Department of State and such? That wouldn't
make sense.

Your HF access of the past isn't an issue this time around.


Neither is the HF access I had from a Ventura marina a few
months ago...again (for at least the 5th time) without requiring
any amateur radio license or knowing morse code.


See, you're oscillator is drifting again. Your HF operation from a
marina had nothing to do with amateur radio, did it? Why did you think
those here would be interested? You seem to have a one-track mind.

The discussion should be about the federal regulations for an amateur
radio license regulation, not the individual "motivations" of any
aspirant to an avocational radio activity.


Maybe you feel that's what it should be about....but it isn't.


It seems to be about ANYTHING EXCEPT amateur radio. It seems
to be all about Kolonel Klunk wanting retribution for some imaginary
wrongs done to his psyche in here.


It does? Do you mean those exchanges where you knew more about State
Department embassy communications operations, practices and objectives
than those who were actually employed to do the work? Do you mean your
antics regarding Key Officers Lists? You came off looking as silly in
those as you do in attempting to set the agenda for amateur radio ops.

You constantly insist on personalizing everything about those who do
not share your holy and illustrious viewpoints.


I neither do it constantly nor with all others. You personalize many
discussions here. How do you explain that away?


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Yes, I copy down the screen name of the individual
I am replying to...call that "personalizing?" :-)


I call it an example of your dodging a question because a truthful
answer would have embarrassed you.

That is your problem
and you continually foul this newsgroup with arrogant remarks against
the person of those of opposite opinions. Not my problem but
certainly yours in attitude.


It doesn't seem to be a problem for me, Len. At the moment, judging
from your reply, it is one for you. Deal with it.


I did already. You got what you deserve. Be happy with that.

Amateur radio is supposed to be a recreation, a fun activity involving
radio, licensing required only because of physics of EM waves and
federal regulation.


It is all of that and more, old gent.


Yes, to you. To you, amateur radio is a wondrous experience where
you may have title, rank, privileges beyond your wildest dreams, of
doing things that mundane professionals could never do by constantly
recreating the past in the future and pioneering the HF airways. It is
your Lifestyle.


Yes, to me. That's because I am a licensed radio amateur. It is
obviously less than that to you. You aren't a licensed radio amateur.

Ho hum.


You can feign boredom. If amateur radio bores you, why do you persist
in haunting a newsgroup which discusses amateur radio?

Instead, you've turned it into a battleground of
your own, arrogantly demanding adherence to your personal view-
points.


No, I've not turned amateur radio into any battlegrounds nor did I note
your presence on any of the ham bands this past week.


Is it now a requirement to "have presence" on ham bands in order
to even speak of amateur radio?


You've spoken of amateur radio here but you are unable to participate in
amateur radio. you said I've turned amateur radio into a battleground.
I haven't. You know nothing of what I do, have done or am likely to do
in, for or about amateur radio except for what you can glean here or
from a number of web pages.

Is the FCC requiring all Wireless Bureau staffers to have amateur
radio licenses in order to regulate U.S. amateur radio?


That matters not at all. You aren't one of them.

You join several others in here in so doing, some past, some
present. That's counter to the original purpose of "the service," isn't
it? Or is it?


Are you confusing amateur radio with this newsgroup? Is it your opinion
that I'm required to quietly accept your guff?


If I have to "accept" your guff, then you have to accept mine.


That is pretty evident. I'll continue to point out that you have no
stake in amateur radio. You're a bystander.

YOU deal with it. [in your own quaint SS manner, of course]


Well, Foghorn Lenhorn, it pains me to no end that you've again resorted
to your usual tactics.

Perhaps you embody modern amateur radio, a constant striving for
leading the pack in competitive activity? A competition complete
with taunts and jibes and outright insults against those who
"challenge" your arrogant expertise? If so, there is no wonder that
amateur radio has not increased in number commensurate with
the growth in population.


Well, old chap, it looks as if you're wrong in your assumptions yet
again.


No, old chop, I don't "assume" anything. I tell it like it is.


You'd first have to *know* how it is. You plainly don't know.

You are
just another arrogant control-freak wanting others to be subservient
to your viewpoints. You can't accept a damn thing if it isn't in line
with your holy opinions.


The statement above is more likely to be true of:

1) one who has been a licensed radio amateur for four decades,
interested in the well-being of the service?

or

2) one who has never been a radio amateur but who claims that his ideas
for amateur radio licensing are the right way?

It is a cinch that you don't embody any of amateur radio--past,
present or future.


Absolutely TRUE. I've been a professional for over a half
century.


Spiffy! Be as professional as you like. You're still on the outside of
amateur radio.

Herr Robust must think that professionals are not required to have
any recreation. Is it that way in your SS?


Watch TV. Play Canasta. Listen to a scanner. Take a drive in the
countryside. You professionals need all the recreation you can get.

of which you accuse others. You are--what is it you call
it?..."beligerant" toward radio amateurs who tire of your tales of life
at ADA a half century ago.


So...if the U.S. Army hasn't been using OOK CW on HF for six
decades, that is "tiring?"


C-O-M-P-R-E-H-E-N-S-I-O-N. Noooooo, you tales of it are tiring. Your
belligerence toward radio amateurs is tiring.

You must not be tired. You must be in coma. You are not
conscious of anything that has happened in the last six decades.


Because I'm not up to date on what happened at ADA fifty years ago? I
can't quite remember the full six decades, Len. Then again, I'm not
quite 55.

Enjoy your little clique of morse code uber alles in amateur radio
where the "bands" are only on HF. Feel superior that you've met all
the criteria and standards established by long-gone amateurs of past
times. You are important, superior, vital, and that is all that

matters.

I enjoy morse code, SSB, FM, RTTY, Pactor and several other modes on MW,
HF, VHF and UHF. My "little clique" numbers hundreds of thousands in
this country alone. I haven't noted your presence.


You wouldn't note anything. All you can see is your own glorious,
glowing presence radiating back at you.


But I *have* noted it, Len. I've been a part of it. You haven't.

No problem. YOUR presence hasn't been noted in any professional
writings or periodicals.


Do you subscribe to all professional writings and periodicals?

You should be demanding that ALL test for high rates of morse in
order to become fully FDA licensed as a ham. Condemn all those
who cannot learn, will not learn, nor share your opinions.


Morse or no morse, consider yourself condemned.


"Condemned" only to calling an asshole an asshole.


Do you use a cellphone to communicate with your opposite end?

Not very holiday-like but it is true.


I don't see you a very "holiday-like" kind of guy, Len.

May Santa bring you an irrepairable intermittent in your favorite HF
transceiver along with a truckload of dusty, high-sulphur-content
coal in your stocking. Merry Christmas.


Do you really know of any irrepairable intermittents?


Yourself.


....and you think I'm an HF transceiver?

Dave K8MN
 
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