"KØHB" wrote in message hlink.net...
"N2EY" wrote

I recall Hans predicting a 15 wpm code test for Extra as part ot the
ARRL
proposal.....

You recall wrong.

You are correct, sir! I was mistaken. Sorry.

You predicted 12-13 wpm.

To see my actual prediction, do a google group search
on "ARRL BoD platitudes" without the quotes.

With all kind wishes,

de Hans, K0HB

And here it is!

73 de Jim, N2EY

The following is a direct copy of Hans' post in original format:

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"N2EY" wrote

Here's an update on various estimates of when Morse code testing will be
eliminated in the US. Note that four predicted dates are in the past.

Given that ARRL likely will lobby for continuing a code test for
Amateur
Extra (12-13WPM?) applicants, I predict that Morse testing will not be
eliminated in this decade.

While it's a cop out, it's probably the only way they can get 15
politicians
to sign up for a "New Amateur Radio Plan" without a palace revolt on
their
hands at the BoD meeting. They'll be able to go back to East
Overshoe, Iowa
and Resume Speed, Arizona and mumble platitudes to their membership
about
how "We've opened HF to non-Morse applicants, but where it really
counts we
actually increased the Morse requirement."

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

73, de Hans, K0HB

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Unfortunately, I overestimated the amount of balls carried by the BoD.
Not only didin't they have the balls to recommend complete elimination
of the Morse exam, but in recommending that Morse testing be continued
for "EXTRA", the speed they recommended was the same count-the-dots 5WPM
which Novices have been passing for over a half-century.

Pathetic!

73, de Hans, K0HB


"N2EY" wrote
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| The following is a direct copy of Hans' post in original format:
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| BEGIN GOOGLE QUOTE:
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| Reply-To: "KØHB"
| From: "KØHB"
| Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy
| References:
|
| Subject: The Pool
| Lines: 23
| Organization: Chaos & Confusion
| X-Priority: 3
| X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
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| Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 00:41:13 GMT
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|
| "N2EY" wrote
|
| Here's an update on various estimates of when Morse code testing
will be
| eliminated in the US. Note that four predicted dates are in the
past.
|
| Given that ARRL likely will lobby for continuing a code test for
| Amateur
| Extra (12-13WPM?) applicants, I predict that Morse testing will not be
| eliminated in this decade.
|
| While it's a cop out, it's probably the only way they can get 15
| politicians
| to sign up for a "New Amateur Radio Plan" without a palace revolt on
| their
| hands at the BoD meeting. They'll be able to go back to East
| Overshoe, Iowa
| and Resume Speed, Arizona and mumble platitudes to their membership
| about
| how "We've opened HF to non-Morse applicants, but where it really
| counts we
| actually increased the Morse requirement."
|
| That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
|
| 73, de Hans, K0HB
|
| END GOOGLE QUOTE

KØHB wrote:

Unfortunately, I overestimated the amount of balls carried by the BoD.
Not only didin't they have the balls to recommend complete elimination
of the Morse exam, but in recommending that Morse testing be continued
for "EXTRA", the speed they recommended was the same count-the-dots 5WPM
which Novices have been passing for over a half-century.



IIRC, most VEs give the code test using farnsworth method. That is, 13
wpm characters
spaced at 5 wpm rate. Harder to count the dahs dots. Idea is that one
can get faster
at code quicker, as you learn the sounds of letters instead of counting
the dots.

Way back when, I had to receive and *send* with an FCC provided straight
key 5wpm.
I think that the FCC found that nobody ever failed sending if they could
receive, so they
dropped the send test.