In article k.net, "Bill
Sohl" writes:

Who cares about how we dialog with each other
as long as the parties involved are operating within the
law as per Part 97 rules and regs?

Olde-tyme hammes DO care a great deal, Bill.

They are servicemen in the glory and tradition of the amateur service.

Why they might even serve you up on a Summary Court if you don't
use the "correct" words and phrases and jargon of olde tymes
EXACTLY as ordered!

"You shall key your rig in the service manner, keeping always
on the alert and listening for all CW above noise level." - General
Order #1 in the amateur serviceman's service manual.

Them olde-tymers have been stewing since 1958 when ordinary
civilians could legally use radios on HF without a morse test. A
mere 46 years ago and they've been enforcing the letter of the
unwritten law ever since. :-)

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 wrote:

Them olde-tymers have been stewing since 1958 when ordinary
civilians could legally use radios on HF without a morse test. A
mere 46 years ago and they've been enforcing the letter of the
unwritten law ever since. :-)

I'm not enough of an old timer to remember hams losing the 11m band. It
took place five years before I obtained my first license. I am pleased
that you've been provided a haven for your HF radio activity.

By the way, radio amateurs are "ordinary civilians" who happen to have
passed a license exam.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:

Len Over 21 wrote:


Them olde-tymers have been stewing since 1958 when ordinary
civilians could legally use radios on HF without a morse test. A
mere 46 years ago and they've been enforcing the letter of the
unwritten law ever since. :-)


I'm not enough of an old timer to remember hams losing the 11m band. It
took place five years before I obtained my first license. I am pleased
that you've been provided a haven for your HF radio activity.

By the way, radio amateurs are "ordinary civilians" who happen to have
passed a license exam.

Dave K8MN

I have yet to meet a ham who "stewed" over loosing 11 meters. It was
hardly used, the only thing anyone might "stew" about is how it has
turned into the sewer pit of the radio spectrum by the cbers who refuse
to follow rules.

JJ wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

Len Over 21 wrote:


Them olde-tymers have been stewing since 1958 when ordinary
civilians could legally use radios on HF without a morse test. A
mere 46 years ago and they've been enforcing the letter of the
unwritten law ever since. :-)



I'm not enough of an old timer to remember hams losing the 11m band. It
took place five years before I obtained my first license. I am pleased
that you've been provided a haven for your HF radio activity.

By the way, radio amateurs are "ordinary civilians" who happen to have
passed a license exam.

Dave K8MN


I have yet to meet a ham who "stewed" over loosing 11 meters. It was
hardly used, the only thing anyone might "stew" about is how it has
turned into the sewer pit of the radio spectrum by the cbers who refuse
to follow rules.


And I might add for senior citizen lenny's benefit, that is what happens
when you let civilians legally use radios on HF without a test, Morse or
otherwise.

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

By the way, radio amateurs are "ordinary civilians" who happen to have
passed a license exam.

No. They are self-defined exceptional people who can do things in
their imagination that ordinary civilians cannot or will not.

Some radio amateurs are so self-defined as to be superior to any and
all radio professionals.

Some radio amateurs are - by public display - arrogant control freaks
who like to imagine they prey on ordinary civilians.

So far you are batting 3 for 3. Well done. Not rare.

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

By the way, radio amateurs are "ordinary civilians" who happen to have
passed a license exam.

No. They are self-defined exceptional people who can do things in
their imagination that ordinary civilians cannot or will not.

I've observed no one here defining himself in that manner. What we're
left with is YOU defining someone in that manner.

Some radio amateurs are so self-defined as to be superior to any and
all radio professionals.

I've observed no one here defining himself in that manner. What we have
is just YOU defining someone in that manner.

Some radio amateurs are - by public display - arrogant control freaks
who like to imagine they prey on ordinary civilians.

You seem to have a problem with anyone who has achieved something you
have not. You've surely memorized that N2EY of your likely actions by
now.
All hams are simply ordinary citizens who've passed an amateur radio
license exam. You aren't one of them.

So far you are batting 3 for 3. Well done. Not rare.

I submit that you don't know one end of a bat (baseball-type or the
mammal) from the other.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

So far you are batting 3 for 3. Well done. Not rare.

I submit that you don't know one end of a bat (baseball-type or the
mammal) from the other.

Dave, I think we should take up a collection and send Sir Scumbag
and Puppet Boy some Excederin...they've GOT to have one heck of a
headache from banging thier (diminutive) little heads on the walls
trying to score some points...And failing...

73

Steve, K4YZ

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message om...
Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

So far you are batting 3 for 3. Well done. Not rare.

I submit that you don't know one end of a bat (baseball-type or the
mammal) from the other.

Dave, I think we should take up a collection and send Sir Scumbag
and Puppet Boy some Excederin...they've GOT to have one heck of a
headache from banging thier (diminutive) little heads on the walls
trying to score some points...And failing...

73

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, my only goal is to keep you talking (and thereby convincing
any/every one who accidently stumbles on to one of your rants that
you're completely insane - most probably a future employer).

In article ,
(William) writes:

Dave, I think we should take up a collection and send Sir Scumbag
and Puppet Boy some Excederin...they've GOT to have one heck of a
headache from banging thier (diminutive) little heads on the walls
trying to score some points...And failing...

73

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, my only goal is to keep you talking (and thereby convincing
any/every one who accidently stumbles on to one of your rants that
you're completely insane - most probably a future employer).

He seems to move around a lot and change jobs often... :-)

He only worked a few months as a purchasing agent in a mid-sized
electronics place that made set-top boxes. Must have learned all
about electronic engineering there! He said something to that effect.

He CAN quote from the Physicians' Desk Reference, though. That's
as useful in amateur radio as Kosher dietary laws, religions (outside
of the Church of St. Hiram), and s*x discussions. :-)

Wait! -

Maybe someone HAS put forth a petition in amateur radio similar to
Kosher...establishment of the Orthodox and Mode Laws to be
observed! [Thou shalt use CW on all Orthodox holidays or something
like that...]

Yeah, that's it. Kosher Kode!

Would Morris approve?

LHA / WMD

(William) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message om...
Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

So far you are batting 3 for 3. Well done. Not rare.

I submit that you don't know one end of a bat (baseball-type or the
mammal) from the other.

Dave, I think we should take up a collection and send Sir Scumbag
and Puppet Boy some Excederin...they've GOT to have one heck of a
headache from banging thier (diminutive) little heads on the walls
trying to score some points...And failing...

73

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, my only goal is to keep you talking (and thereby convincing
any/every one who accidently stumbles on to one of your rants that
you're completely insane - most probably a future employer).

Well, Brain, as long as you keep posting obviously erroneous and
intentionally deceptive stuff, I guess I will have something to "talk"
about.

As for "proving" to any potential employer that I am "insane",
how about if I direct YOUR employer to this forum...specifically
selected passages wherein you make assertions you can't/won't back up
ALONG with YOUR expression of admiration for a person publically known
to be dishonest and deceitful...?!?!

We can further direct your employer to literally hundreds of
posts where you refer to third parties by demeaning or belittling
endearments where THEY did not lavish such endearments upon YOU.

Yeah...I got you two twerps by the tail and watching you writhe
around provides a bit of morbid entertainment. If you consider that
"insane", well, go right ahead. But you are, afterall, the source of
my "material".

Thanks.

Steve, K4YZ