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If Pro CW Testing Amateurs a

Feet firmly planted in the past folks and elitist snobs......



Why wouldn't they WANT the Morse code testing eliminated so that they
could get on the air and only associate with like minded individuals?


Removing the test would be the ultimate filter.

- Mike KB3EIA -



We do that now. Those of us who did our element 1C are just a tiny bit
peeved that people got upgraded to Extra and didn't have to take the
test.

I needle a buddy of mine about it all the time. He got his 'extra' when
the rules changed, having already passed the 4B test. I got my extra in
1993.

In article , Mike Coslo writes:

If Pro CW Testing Amateurs a

Feet firmly planted in the past folks and elitist snobs......

Why wouldn't they WANT the Morse code testing eliminated so that they
could get on the air and only associate with like minded individuals?

Because then they couldn't call themselves "Pro CW Testing
Amateurs." :-)

Removing the test would be the ultimate filter.

I disagree. It would be Removal of Amateur Radio As They Know It
and they won't, can't have that. Blasphemy against the Church
of St. Hiram.

Liken this period of time to the Dark Days of the Catholic Church.
The late Don Stoner (the "S" in SGC Corporation*, makers of the
SG-2020 HF transceiver) may be the counterpart of a Martin Luther
from his editorial (quoted by Hans Brakob many times) in nailing
"theses" to the "church door...or the NECVEC petition (RM-10870)
may be part of that also.

"Tradition" of always having a code test for amateurism is so firmly
implanted (or brain-washed into) in minds that any suggestion of
removal of the code test is considered by those PCTA as heresy,
almost an abomination to some god.

Amateur radio = radiotelegraphy is an equation which those
stubborn soles of see-double-you require all to walk on.


* The "G" of SGC, Pierre Goral, passed on several months ago.

LHA / WMD

In article , Mike Coslo writes:

If Pro CW Testing Amateurs a

Feet firmly planted in the past folks and elitist snobs......

Why wouldn't they WANT the Morse code testing eliminated so that they
could get on the air and only associate with like minded individuals?

Because then they couldn't call themselves "Pro CW Testing
Amateurs." :-)

Removing the test would be the ultimate filter.

I disagree. It would be Removal of Amateur Radio As They Know It
and they won't, can't have that. Blasphemy against the Church
of St. Hiram.

Liken this period of time to the Dark Days of the Catholic Church.
The late Don Stoner (the "S" in SGC Corporation*, makers of the
SG-2020 HF transceiver) may be the counterpart of a Martin Luther
from his editorial (quoted by Hans Brakob many times) in nailing
"theses" to the "church door...or the NECVEC petition (RM-10870)
may be part of that also.

"Tradition" of always having a code test for amateurism is so firmly
implanted (or brain-washed into) in minds that any suggestion of
removal of the code test is considered by those PCTA as heresy,
almost an abomination to some god.

Amateur radio = radiotelegraphy is an equation which those
stubborn soles of see-double-you require all to walk on.


* The "G" of SGC, Pierre Goral, passed on several months ago.

LHA / WMD

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...
If Pro CW Testing Amateurs a

Feet firmly planted in the past folks and elitist snobs......



Why wouldn't they WANT the Morse code testing eliminated so that they
could get on the air and only associate with like minded individuals?


Removing the test would be the ultimate filter.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Because we can do that right now Mike. I don't consider it being elitist to
want to continue with a known effective mode. Those that want to get rid of
it are world class fools.

Dan/W4NTI

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"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

Removing the test would be the ultimate filter.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Because we can do that right now Mike. I don't consider it being elitist to
want to continue with a known effective mode. Those that want to get rid of
it are world class fools.

The REST OF THE RADIO WORLD GOT RID OF TELEGRAPHY.

Are all those other radio services "fools" that they got rid of
radiotelegraphy?

I guess you think so. shrug

How's your therapy coming along?

LHA / WMD

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article . net,
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

Removing the test would be the ultimate filter.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Because we can do that right now Mike. I don't consider it being elitist to
want to continue with a known effective mode. Those that want to get rid of
it are world class fools.

The REST OF THE RADIO WORLD GOT RID OF TELEGRAPHY.

"THE REST OF THE RADIO WORLD" is NOT "Amateur Radio"

The purpose, practice and applications are NOT the same.

Are all those other radio services "fools" that they got rid of
radiotelegraphy?

Those "other radio services" are NOT "Amateur Radio".

I guess you think so. shrug

How's your therapy coming along?

Why is it that everyone who disagrees with you allegedly needs
"therapy"..?

It might be because YOU need it and are trying to deny it by
alledging everyone BUT you needs it.

Naaaaaaa...you're just a putz. Proven.

Steve, K4YZ

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(Stevie the gunnery nurse) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article . net,
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

Removing the test would be the ultimate filter.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Because we can do that right now Mike. I don't consider it being elitist
to
want to continue with a known effective mode. Those that want to get rid
of
it are world class fools.

The REST OF THE RADIO WORLD GOT RID OF TELEGRAPHY.

"THE REST OF THE RADIO WORLD" is NOT "Amateur Radio"

That's what I wrote. You got it. Finally.

The purpose, practice and applications are NOT the same.

Yes, quite. The rest of the radio world isn't anal-retentive about
radiotelegraphy. They've gone beyond that. :-)


Are all those other radio services "fools" that they got rid of
radiotelegraphy?

Those "other radio services" are NOT "Amateur Radio".

Okay, so where are all the "fools" that Dan was talking about?

Could it be that the "fools" are those IN amateur radio who are
championing radiotelegraphy?

[oh, my, what a disturbing thought THAT is! :-) ]

I guess you think so. shrug

How's your therapy coming along?

Why is it that everyone who disagrees with you allegedly needs
"therapy"..?

Dan wants me to go elsewhere and DIE! That's serious mental
aberation.

It might be because YOU need it and are trying to deny it by
alledging everyone BUT you needs it.

So far, only yourself and Danny Boy have wanted me DEAD. :-)

I'm far from that...but I'm not wishing that on anyone else.

Primitive sociopaths want all who disagree with them to die or
otherwise disappear. They cannot abide opposite opinions.
Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Naaaaaaa...you're just a putz. Proven.

The gunnery nurse is back off his tranqs into abusive,
uncivil behavior. Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk! :-)

LHA / WMD

Yes,

Dan/W4NTI

"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

Removing the test would be the ultimate filter.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Because we can do that right now Mike. I don't consider it being elitist
to
want to continue with a known effective mode. Those that want to get rid
of
it are world class fools.

The REST OF THE RADIO WORLD GOT RID OF TELEGRAPHY.

Are all those other radio services "fools" that they got rid of
radiotelegraphy?

I guess you think so. shrug

How's your therapy coming along?

LHA / WMD

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message link.net...
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...
If Pro CW Testing Amateurs a

Feet firmly planted in the past folks and elitist snobs......



Why wouldn't they WANT the Morse code testing eliminated so that they
could get on the air and only associate with like minded individuals?


Removing the test would be the ultimate filter.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Because we can do that right now Mike. I don't consider it being elitist to
want to continue with a known effective mode. Those that want to get rid of
it are world class fools.

Dan/W4NTI

DAN, Dan, dan, it is the -EXAM- that we are getting rid of. If we got
rid of the psk practical exam, would you think we are trying to get
rid of the mode?

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(William) writes:

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
hlink.net...
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...
If Pro CW Testing Amateurs a

Feet firmly planted in the past folks and elitist snobs......



Why wouldn't they WANT the Morse code testing eliminated so that they
could get on the air and only associate with like minded individuals?


Removing the test would be the ultimate filter.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Because we can do that right now Mike. I don't consider it being elitist
to
want to continue with a known effective mode. Those that want to get rid
of
it are world class fools.

Dan/W4NTI

DAN, Dan, dan, it is the -EXAM- that we are getting rid of. If we got
rid of the psk practical exam, would you think we are trying to get
rid of the mode?

He doesn't understand that or cannot comprehend it. :-)

Everyone is a "fool" who is not a radiotelegrapher...

He needs therapy to understand the modern world.

LHA / WMD