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"Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... N2EY wrote: "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message hlink.net... "Bert Craig" wrote in message .net... "Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... If Pro CW Testing Amateurs a Feet firmly planted in the past folks and elitist snobs...... Why wouldn't they WANT the Morse code testing eliminated so that they could get on the air and only associate with like minded individuals? Removing the test would be the ultimate filter. - Mike KB3EIA - That'll likely happen, Mike. If and when Element 1 is retained solely for the Extra, I suspect the Extra CW sub-bands will become a pretty crowded place. Kinda silly as those who won't (Not can't.) learn CW won't be on any CW sub-bands. 73 de Bert WA2SI I've been a Extra for 30 years now. I hardly ever operate in the exclusive subbands, either phone or cw. But here lately I have been. I have no problem with leaving 50 khz per band for CW. We don't have that now! On HF/MF, there are *no* CW-only subbands. I think such subbands are a very good idea. Something like this: CW-only subbands: 160 meters: 1800-1850 kHz 80 meters: 3500-3575 kHz 40 meters: 7000-7050 kHz 30 meters: 10100-10120 kHz 20 meters: 14000-14075 kHz 17 meters: 18068-18088 kHz 15 meters: 21000-21075 kHz 12 meters: 24890-24910 kHz 10 meters: 28000-28100 kHz Bottom 25 kHz of 80/40/20/15 reserved for Extras. Rest is available to all other classes of license. CW would still be legal outside these subbands but observance of the subbands would be encouraged as good operating practice. Why not? You'd think that such a move would be offered by at least some of the nocodetest folks... Sorry Jim, they are busy with trying to lower the test requirements right now. After all the Technicians are freebied up to General, they'll turn their attentions to those pesky and annoying gentleman's agreements for CW portions. I'll bet you a pepperoni and cheese pizza that their bandplans will look quite different than yours. Theirs will be much simpler! The rationale will be that it is SO much trouble for people to keep within bandplans that it is a big headache for hams to keep track of where they are supposed to be. And why do those CW people get half our bands anyhow? The most amusing part will be when Carl and Bill show up with their spin on how it *isn't* a spectrum grab. But you know, I suspect that in the brave new world of post-restructuring ARS, that the new hams will simply do squatters rights on the bandplan. It's only an agreement, so what can we do if they decide to work there? I wonder when the first CW segment SSB contest will be held? - Mike KB3EIA - And I wonder how a DSP filter will handle a drifty, chirping CW signal? Dan/W4NTI |
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... N2EY wrote: "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message hlink.net... "Bert Craig" wrote in message . cv.net... "Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... If Pro CW Testing Amateurs a Feet firmly planted in the past folks and elitist snobs...... Why wouldn't they WANT the Morse code testing eliminated so that they could get on the air and only associate with like minded individuals? Removing the test would be the ultimate filter. - Mike KB3EIA - That'll likely happen, Mike. If and when Element 1 is retained solely for the Extra, I suspect the Extra CW sub-bands will become a pretty crowded place. Kinda silly as those who won't (Not can't.) learn CW won't be on any CW sub-bands. 73 de Bert WA2SI I've been a Extra for 30 years now. I hardly ever operate in the exclusive subbands, either phone or cw. But here lately I have been. I have no problem with leaving 50 khz per band for CW. We don't have that now! On HF/MF, there are *no* CW-only subbands. I think such subbands are a very good idea. Something like this: CW-only subbands: 160 meters: 1800-1850 kHz 80 meters: 3500-3575 kHz 40 meters: 7000-7050 kHz 30 meters: 10100-10120 kHz 20 meters: 14000-14075 kHz 17 meters: 18068-18088 kHz 15 meters: 21000-21075 kHz 12 meters: 24890-24910 kHz 10 meters: 28000-28100 kHz Bottom 25 kHz of 80/40/20/15 reserved for Extras. Rest is available to all other classes of license. CW would still be legal outside these subbands but observance of the subbands would be encouraged as good operating practice. Why not? You'd think that such a move would be offered by at least some of the nocodetest folks... Sorry Jim, they are busy with trying to lower the test requirements right now. After all the Technicians are freebied up to General, they'll turn their attentions to those pesky and annoying gentleman's agreements for CW portions. I'll bet you a pepperoni and cheese pizza that their bandplans will look quite different than yours. Theirs will be much simpler! The rationale will be that it is SO much trouble for people to keep within bandplans that it is a big headache for hams to keep track of where they are supposed to be. And why do those CW people get half our bands anyhow? The most amusing part will be when Carl and Bill show up with their spin on how it *isn't* a spectrum grab. But you know, I suspect that in the brave new world of post-restructuring ARS, that the new hams will simply do squatters rights on the bandplan. It's only an agreement, so what can we do if they decide to work there? I wonder when the first CW segment SSB contest will be held? - Mike KB3EIA - And I wonder how a DSP filter will handle a drifty, chirping CW signal? Dan/W4NTI I've never tried it, but I suspect that it might be a great method to make the signal go away? - Mike KB3EIA - |
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