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"Keyboard In The Noise" wrote in message news:%a6yc.37193$tI2.19197@fed1read07...
The police and other civil entities used many different variants across country From URL: http://www.bckelk.uklinux.net/phon.full.html Used by police in New York City: Adam Boy Charlie David Edward Frank George Henry Ida John King Lincoln Mary Nora Ocean Peter Queen Robert Sam Tom Union Victor William X-ray Young Zebra [Variants: Eddie Larry Nancy Thomas Yankee Yellow] Used by police in Nassau County, Long Island, New York: Adam Boston Chicago Denver Edward Frank George Henry Ida John King Lincoln Mary Nancy Ocean Peter Queen Robert Sam Thomas Union Victor William X-ray Young Zebra Used by police in San Diego, California: Adam Boy Charles David Edward Frank George Henry Ida John King Lincoln Mary Nora Ocean Paul Queen Robert Sam Tom Unit Victor William Xray Yellow Zebra -- Keyboard In The Noise Opinions are the cheapest commodities in the world. Author unknown but "right on" ------------------------------------- Don't the police and other services use the APCO phonetics? "In 1956 the International Telecommunications Union (ITU) adopted the ICAO phonetic alphabet. Today it is THE worldwide standard for military, naval, civilian aeronautical and maritime, search and rescue groups, public safety, (law enforcement being an exception); and...the A.R.R.L." http://www.emcomm.org/svares/trainin...10_30_2001.htm http://vatusa.org/training/study_guides/voc1.html w3rv |
Alun wrote in message . ..
"Keyboard In The Noise" wrote in news:%a6yc.37193$tI2.19197 @fed1read07: The police and other civil entities used many different variants across country From URL: http://www.bckelk.uklinux.net/phon.full.html Used by police in New York City: Adam Boy Charlie David Edward Frank George Henry Ida John King Lincoln Mary Nora Ocean Peter Queen Robert Sam Tom Union Victor William X-ray Young Zebra [Variants: Eddie Larry Nancy Thomas Yankee Yellow] Used by police in Nassau County, Long Island, New York: Adam Boston Chicago Denver Edward Frank George Henry Ida John King Lincoln Mary Nancy Ocean Peter Queen Robert Sam Thomas Union Victor William X-ray Young Zebra Used by police in San Diego, California: Adam Boy Charles David Edward Frank George Henry Ida John King Lincoln Mary Nora Ocean Paul Queen Robert Sam Tom Unit Victor William Xray Yellow Zebra -- Keyboard In The Noise Opinions are the cheapest commodities in the world. Author unknown but "right on" ------------------------------------- Don't the police and other services use the APCO phonetics? There's only one correct international set of phonetics - Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliet Kilo Lima Mike Novenber Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whisky X- ray Yankee Zulu I have a P at the end of my US call, and that is the one letter that causes me problems. Papa is supposed to be pronounced the British way, not the American way, so as to be correct (don't blame me, all the phonetics have only one official pronounciation, and that happens to be it). As a Brit operating from America, I find that when I do so, people copy it as 'Japan', hence converting my call from N3KIP to N3KIJ in the mind of the DX. Now, I understand that anyone is free to use whatever phonetics they like, but 'Japan' is a bad one, as it sounds too much like the official way of saying 'Papa', at least through QRM, although not like the way Americans say it. Unfortunately it is common to use country names as phonetics. No doubt 'Papa' was a bad choice originally, as there is more than one way of saying it, but I can't do much about that. I have tried using 'Pacific' or 'Peter', both of which seem to be common. I have also tried saying 'Papa' the American way, although there is considerable irony in that, i.e. for me that is both putting on a foreign accent and departing from the official way of saying it, which happens to be the way that is natural for me to begin with! I'm going to start a new fenetic alfabet: ahoy boy coy dee eee flew glue hoy igloo joy koi lew moo noy oy poise quoi roy soy toy upper viceroy double upper ex why zee |
Using your fenetics
Ahoy Boy Why Toy with a perfectly good well accepted international phonetic set Quoi Soy Lew Available at all Chinese resturants and B & W Root Beer Stands -- Lamont Cranston The Shadow Knows ------------------------------ Some one wrote I'm going to start a new fenetic alfabet: ahoy boy coy dee eee flew glue hoy igloo joy koi lew moo noy oy poise quoi roy soy toy upper viceroy double upper ex why zee |
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No problem Jim, I am one of those that is required to use the APCO (or
damned close similarity) phonetics in both of what I do for a living. As a ham I am required to use the ITU phonetics....... I am first to admit, every once in a while the two different phonetic groups do get intermingled...... not on purpose though. :) Ryan KC8PMX "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... Yep, Ryan 10 years ago I went for a civil service exam. They asked both phonetic alphabets (alpha bravo charlie delta echo foxtrot ... and adam baker charlie david edward ... etc). I scored 100% with no veterens' points. I wasn't even called. I assumed it had something to do with age. I figured something out. About 1 year ago, a shift supervisor asked me if I could copy one of his report's resume into the computer. As I proceeded to type the resume into the computer he was flabbergasted. "What the heck! You aren't even looking at the monitor!" Yawn. Of course. I have typed 65 words per minute on a manual typewriter and over 90 words per minute on a 100 word per minute teletype machine. I have copied 40 words per minute perfect copy for a number of minutes (a full page of typewritten copy) in the Navy on a manual typewriter (the fastest speed they had on tape at Bainbridge, MD). I was asked when I was looking for a job some years ago if I had ever used a computer. I won't repeat what I said. Well, maybe. I asked "did you read the f*ck*ng resume? I've been programming PCs and mainframes for three years! I walked out on them. I have come to the conclusion that I no longer care. I was even called "elitist", which I am not. I am just fed up with certain things that are happening. I wish we all could just get along .... One guy had a problem on a repeater. He was squawking about the need for CW. So .... I switched to F2 emission (or whatever they want to call it .... I no longer worry about it). I was gentle. I only sent about 40 words per minute. I could have sent 55. Maybe 60, but it wouldn't have been good code at that point. My new attitude is "do whatever you want, just make sure you want it". Raise, call or fold. BTW, I've never heard of "boy" being one of the recognized phonetics. I think I'm developing an attitude ;) BTW, no slam intended. I just would like some of the folks in the newsgroup to understand what is going on with some of us older folks who are still to young to retire. This is absolutely *not* aimed at you. Best regards from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA "Ryan, KC8PMX" wrote in message ... Just for kicks and giggles..... what about those who in their line of work are required to know APCO phonetics?? (Adam, Boy, Charlie/Charles etc.) Ryan KC8PMX Yeah.....something like that belongs in a beginners columb like 'Your Novice Accent' .. Oh excuse me. They cancelled that one years ago. I guess that means most of the readers of QST are novice equivilants ? Hmmmmmmmm Make your own conclusions there. Dan/W4NTI --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/7/04 |
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Alun wrote in message . .. "Keyboard In The Noise" wrote in news:%a6yc.37193$tI2.19197 @fed1read07: The police and other civil entities used many different variants across country From URL: http://www.bckelk.uklinux.net/phon.full.html Used by police in New York City: Adam Boy Charlie David Edward Frank George Henry Ida John King Lincoln Mary Nora Ocean Peter Queen Robert Sam Tom Union Victor William X-ray Young Zebra [Variants: Eddie Larry Nancy Thomas Yankee Yellow] Used by police in Nassau County, Long Island, New York: Adam Boston Chicago Denver Edward Frank George Henry Ida John King Lincoln Mary Nancy Ocean Peter Queen Robert Sam Thomas Union Victor William X-ray Young Zebra Used by police in San Diego, California: Adam Boy Charles David Edward Frank George Henry Ida John King Lincoln Mary Nora Ocean Paul Queen Robert Sam Tom Unit Victor William Xray Yellow Zebra -- Keyboard In The Noise Opinions are the cheapest commodities in the world. Author unknown but "right on" ------------------------------------- Don't the police and other services use the APCO phonetics? There's only one correct international set of phonetics - Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliet Kilo Lima Mike Novenber Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whisky X- ray Yankee Zulu I have a P at the end of my US call, and that is the one letter that causes me problems. Papa is supposed to be pronounced the British way, not the American way, so as to be correct (don't blame me, all the phonetics have only one official pronounciation, and that happens to be it). As a Brit operating from America, I find that when I do so, people copy it as 'Japan', hence converting my call from N3KIP to N3KIJ in the mind of the DX. Now, I understand that anyone is free to use whatever phonetics they like, but 'Japan' is a bad one, as it sounds too much like the official way of saying 'Papa', at least through QRM, although not like the way Americans say it. Unfortunately it is common to use country names as phonetics. No doubt 'Papa' was a bad choice originally, as there is more than one way of saying it, but I can't do much about that. I have tried using 'Pacific' or 'Peter', both of which seem to be common. I have also tried saying 'Papa' the American way, although there is considerable irony in that, i.e. for me that is both putting on a foreign accent and departing from the official way of saying it, which happens to be the way that is natural for me to begin with! I'm going to start a new fenetic alfabet: ahoy boy coy dee eee flew glue hoy igloo joy koi lew moo noy oy poise quoi roy soy toy upper viceroy double upper ex why zee lessee, koi boy three eee igloo ahoy? Howl! This is a darn funny Phonetic, Brian |
"Ryan, KC8PMX" wrote As a ham I am required to use the ITU phonetics....... No you're not. Regardless of the article in QST, there is no requirement for hams to use the ICAO phonetics. You are free to use whatever phonetics you wish, or none at all if that strikes your fancy. 73, de Hans, K0HB -- SOC #291 http://www.qsl.net/soc |
Alun wrote: I have a P at the end of my US call, Me too, sometimes, especially if I've been drinking coffee. - Mike KB3EIA - |
KØHB wrote: "Ryan, KC8PMX" wrote As a ham I am required to use the ITU phonetics....... No you're not. Regardless of the article in QST, there is no requirement for hams to use the ICAO phonetics. You are free to use whatever phonetics you wish, or none at all if that strikes your fancy. I often don't. I don't know about other hams, but I can make out a person's call better if they just SAY it. Of course that only goes for the languages I recognize. - Mike - |
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