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"Mike Coslo" wrote I often don't. I don't know about other hams, but I can make out a person's call better if they just SAY it. Absolutely! Under most conditions the use of phonetics isn't much needed. Interestingly, in the amateur radio activities where speed and readability under marginal conditions count the most (contesting and dx'ing), the predominate phonetic set mostly uses international place names. A......AMERICA B......BRAZIL C......CANADA D......DENMARK E......ENGLAND F......FRANCE G.....GERMANY H.....HONOLULU I.......ITALY J......JAPAN K......KILOWATT L......LONDON M......MEXICO N......NORWAY O......ONTARIO P......PORTUGAL Q......QUEBEC R......RADIO S......SANTIAGO T......TOKYO U......UNITED V...... VICTORIA W......WASHINGTON X......X-RAY Y......YOKOHAMA Z...... ZANZIBAR 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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: William wrote: Alun wrote in message . .. "Keyboard In The Noise" wrote in news:%a6yc.37193$tI2.19197 @fed1read07: The police and other civil entities used many different variants across country From URL: http://www.bckelk.uklinux.net/phon.full.html Used by police in New York City: Adam Boy Charlie David Edward Frank George Henry Ida John King Lincoln Mary Nora Ocean Peter Queen Robert Sam Tom Union Victor William X-ray Young Zebra [Variants: Eddie Larry Nancy Thomas Yankee Yellow] Used by police in Nassau County, Long Island, New York: Adam Boston Chicago Denver Edward Frank George Henry Ida John King Lincoln Mary Nancy Ocean Peter Queen Robert Sam Thomas Union Victor William X-ray Young Zebra Used by police in San Diego, California: Adam Boy Charles David Edward Frank George Henry Ida John King Lincoln Mary Nora Ocean Paul Queen Robert Sam Tom Unit Victor William Xray Yellow Zebra -- Keyboard In The Noise Opinions are the cheapest commodities in the world. Author unknown but "right on" ------------------------------------- Don't the police and other services use the APCO phonetics? There's only one correct international set of phonetics - Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliet Kilo Lima Mike Novenber Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whisky X- ray Yankee Zulu I have a P at the end of my US call, and that is the one letter that causes me problems. Papa is supposed to be pronounced the British way, not the American way, so as to be correct (don't blame me, all the phonetics have only one official pronounciation, and that happens to be it). As a Brit operating from America, I find that when I do so, people copy it as 'Japan', hence converting my call from N3KIP to N3KIJ in the mind of the DX. Now, I understand that anyone is free to use whatever phonetics they like, but 'Japan' is a bad one, as it sounds too much like the official way of saying 'Papa', at least through QRM, although not like the way Americans say it. Unfortunately it is common to use country names as phonetics. No doubt 'Papa' was a bad choice originally, as there is more than one way of saying it, but I can't do much about that. I have tried using 'Pacific' or 'Peter', both of which seem to be common. I have also tried saying 'Papa' the American way, although there is considerable irony in that, i.e. for me that is both putting on a foreign accent and departing from the official way of saying it, which happens to be the way that is natural for me to begin with! I'm going to start a new fenetic alfabet: ahoy boy coy dee eee flew glue hoy igloo joy koi lew moo noy oy poise quoi roy soy toy upper viceroy double upper ex why zee lessee, koi boy three eee igloo ahoy? Howl! This is a darn funny Phonetic, Brian noy three koi igloo poise |
Mike Coslo wrote in news:e96dna0OaelVrlfdRVn-
: Alun wrote: I have a P at the end of my US call, Me too, sometimes, especially if I've been drinking coffee. - Mike KB3EIA - Or beer |
"KØHB" wrote in news:7Aryc.2100$Wr.1723
@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net: "Mike Coslo" wrote I often don't. I don't know about other hams, but I can make out a person's call better if they just SAY it. Absolutely! Under most conditions the use of phonetics isn't much needed. Interestingly, in the amateur radio activities where speed and readability under marginal conditions count the most (contesting and dx'ing), the predominate phonetic set mostly uses international place names. A......AMERICA B......BRAZIL C......CANADA D......DENMARK E......ENGLAND F......FRANCE G.....GERMANY H.....HONOLULU I.......ITALY J......JAPAN K......KILOWATT L......LONDON M......MEXICO N......NORWAY O......ONTARIO P......PORTUGAL Q......QUEBEC R......RADIO S......SANTIAGO T......TOKYO U......UNITED V...... VICTORIA W......WASHINGTON X......X-RAY Y......YOKOHAMA Z...... ZANZIBAR 73, de Hans, K0HB I already explained that Japan is suceptible of confusion with Papa. Jamaica would be better. |
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writes: there is no requirement for hams to use the ICAO phonetics. You are free to use whatever phonetics you wish, or none at all if that strikes your fancy. That's true as long as the phonetics used don't obscure the meaning of words or the actual callsign. 73 de Jim, November Two Echo Yankee |
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"Alun" wrote in message ... "KØHB" wrote in news:7Aryc.2100$Wr.1723 @newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net: "Mike Coslo" wrote I often don't. I don't know about other hams, but I can make out a person's call better if they just SAY it. Absolutely! Under most conditions the use of phonetics isn't much needed. Interestingly, in the amateur radio activities where speed and readability under marginal conditions count the most (contesting and dx'ing), the predominate phonetic set mostly uses international place names. A......AMERICA B......BRAZIL C......CANADA D......DENMARK E......ENGLAND F......FRANCE G.....GERMANY H.....HONOLULU I.......ITALY J......JAPAN K......KILOWATT L......LONDON M......MEXICO N......NORWAY O......ONTARIO P......PORTUGAL Q......QUEBEC R......RADIO S......SANTIAGO T......TOKYO U......UNITED V...... VICTORIA W......WASHINGTON X......X-RAY Y......YOKOHAMA Z...... ZANZIBAR 73, de Hans, K0HB I already explained that Japan is suceptible of confusion with Papa. Jamaica would be better. But it hasn't ever been confused with Portugal. You are free to use Jamaica if you wish, but most experienced contesters will have to do a mental double-clutch to copy you. There goes your Q-rate spiraling down the crapper. 73, de Hans, K0HB Hamming for 45 years this month, and it just keeps getting better. |
"N2EY" wrote That's true as long as the phonetics used don't obscure the meaning of words or the actual callsign. Thank you, Captain Obvious. 73, de Hans, Kilowatt-Zero-Handsome Boy |
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