"N2EY" wrote in message
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"Ryan, KC8PMX" wrote in message
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"N2EY" wrote in message
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In article , Mike Coslo
writes:


But you guys have training sessions, right?

Twice a month as required by law, and also sometimes more than that.

Well, there you go. For a lot of hams, Field Day is their only and/or
first training.

You can't simulate all of them by any means, but FD simulates some of
them.

I wasn't saying that we can simulate all but I do think we should be
simulating in more realistic locations. That is provided that we can
get
permission to set up there, as it is not actually during an emergency.

The question is, what constitutes a "realistic" location? Depending on
the type of emergency, all sorts of sites are realistic.

For example, look at the search for shuttle parts. People were spread
out over a large area, and needed communications over relatively short
paths but in many directions - in rural areas, mostly.

One of the biggest challenges of FD has become finding a site.
Consider what we want to do:

- Make noise all night long

- Put wires and tubing high in the air during a time of year when
thunderstorms are common

- Pound things into the ground, set up tents, cook food, etc.

- Be away from noise generators like power lines.

Plus there's the whole liability question...

I agree with ya on the liability issue.... There is a clear difference
between gaining access in a true emergency versus gaining access to a
property for an alleged "training exersize." In a real emergency, especially
one involved under that marshall law concept, you could be placed anywhere
the command structure wants you to set up, regardless of property owner's
permission or not.

I do have to base the next line or two by stating it to be relating to where
I live locally, but I beleive that logically we as ARES/RACES would most
likely be set up in or at places like county/city owned
properties/buildings, quite possibly hospitals, law enforcement/fire/ems
buildings, the red cross etc. Logic would dictate to me that as a reasonable
guess as to where we personally would most likely set up in a real
emergency. (as one larger group OR as individual smaller stations)

Ryan KC8PMX

In article , "Ryan, KC8PMX"
writes:

I agree with ya on the liability issue.... There is a clear difference
between gaining access in a true emergency versus gaining access to a
property for an alleged "training exersize." In a real emergency, especially
one involved under that marshall law concept, you could be placed anywhere
the command structure wants you to set up, regardless of property owner's
permission or not.

Yep.

The problem of getting a site varies all over the place. In some areas all you
need do is ask. In others there's all sorts of paperwork. A club with active
ARES folks obvioulsy has an edge over one that doesn't, but even that
connection is no guarantee.

There's also the very real factor of do you go for visibility, convenience or
radio performance in a site? (Rare are the sites that combine all three).

I do have to base the next line or two by stating it to be relating to where
I live locally, but I beleive that logically we as ARES/RACES would most
likely be set up in or at places like county/city owned
properties/buildings, quite possibly hospitals, law enforcement/fire/ems
buildings, the red cross etc. Logic would dictate to me that as a reasonable
guess as to where we personally would most likely set up in a real
emergency. (as one larger group OR as individual smaller stations)

Even then, it's subject to wide variation depending on the nature of the
emergency.

73 de Jim, N2EY