In article , Robert Casey
writes:

Len, just get the damm license.

Just for the purpose of settling a very few newsgrope irregulars
who are irritated by controversy? :-)

Not a good reason "for the service!" :-)

It ain't that hard.

I'm aware of that. So is anyone in the public who cares to look.

:-)

Hell even 5wpm.

So, learning a useless skill is considered "important?"

I've never had to learn or use any manual telegraphy in 51 years of
actual communicating on HF.

Morse code skill is an anachronism. Only amateurs use it with any
regularity and then those are only a few amateurs, a minority.

I did it and I'm no good at sort of "motor skill" kind of thing.

Not a good reason for me to waste my time trying to re-enact
the past.

Then get on the air some.

Been there, done that, from LF on up to microwaves.

Did it earlier this year using an SGC SG-2020 on HF. :-)
[also late last year, same rig...both times very legal!]

Then you can speak with some creditability
here and other forums on ham radio.

Impossible! "Those without an amateur license have zero-point-
zero experience, don't know nuthin, etc., etc., etc., etc." :-)

Ham radio works by different principles than all other radios.
That's what I'm told. I don't believe them, but lots of hams do.

As far as morseodism is concerned, I'm an atheist. I don't
worship at the Church of St. Hiram. Put away your collection
plate and Him books.

Look to yourself and contemporaries. Improve your own standing
within the "amateur community." Foster more myths and legends
of the Power of Morse, use either a Wayback or Tyme Mashine
and concentrate on 80 to 100 years ago happenings, idolize the
Pioneers of Hamateur Raddio (well over all others in radio), and
treasure the icon of icons, the amateur license certificate. Don't
bother to look towards the future...except to note the next ham
club date and time so you can continue to Spread The Word.

Live your proper lifestyle of amateurism. Be an ascetic. Toss
around more acetic acid. [stop bath in darkrooms...fitting]

"Ohm, mane padme Ohm..."



BTW, it's not a DAMN license. :-)

It's an official federal merit badge. Makes you invincible? :-)

LHA / WMD

Subject: FCC Morse testing at 16 and 20 WPM
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 7/19/2004 12:18 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

Len, just get the damm license.

Just for the purpose of settling a very few newsgrope irregulars
who are irritated by controversy?

What controversy?

Not a good reason "for the service!"

There's never a good reason with you, Lennie, including, it seems, your
own inisistance that you were going to do it.

Not that you've ever developed a reputation for being truthful...

It ain't that hard.

I'm aware of that. So is anyone in the public who cares to look.

But it still eludes you.

I say you just can't do it. You're afraid.

Hell even 5wpm.

So, learning a useless skill is considered "important?"

Who says it's useless?

You?

I've never had to learn or use any manual telegraphy in 51 years of
actual communicating on HF.

You've never been a licensed Amateur Radio operator.

Morse code skill is an anachronism. Only amateurs use it with any
regularity and then those are only a few amateurs, a minority.

Your definition of "a few" is interesting.

Especially when actually LISTENING to the bottom end of the HF
allocations.

I did it and I'm no good at sort of "motor skill" kind of thing.

Not a good reason for me to waste my time trying to re-enact
the past.

You can't "re-enact" the present.

Morse Code has not been required for access to over 97% of all US Amateur
allocations for over 13 years.

Then get on the air some.

Been there, done that, from LF on up to microwaves.

But not as an Amateur.

On discreet channels under someone else's station license and with modes
dictated by that license.

Did it earlier this year using an SGC SG-2020 on HF.
[also late last year, same rig...both times very legal!]

Uh huh. Big time operator.

Then you can speak with some creditability
here and other forums on ham radio.

Impossible! "Those without an amateur license have zero-point-
zero experience, don't know nuthin, etc., etc., etc., etc."

With or without a license, you STILL have zero-point-zero experience in
Amateur Radio matters.

Ham radio works by different principles than all other radios.
That's what I'm told. I don't believe them, but lots of hams do.

Then you've uttered yet another lie.

NO ONE in this forum has even remotely suggested that Amateur Radio
equipment operates by "different principles".

Thank-you for substantiating my assertion that you are a liar. Again.

As far as morseodism is concerned, I'm an atheist. I don't
worship at the Church of St. Hiram. Put away your collection
plate and Him books.

"I am only here to civillly debate the Morse Code test issue".

Look to yourself and contemporaries. Improve your own standing
within the "amateur community." Foster more myths and legends
of the Power of Morse, use either a Wayback or Tyme Mashine
and concentrate on 80 to 100 years ago happenings, idolize the
Pioneers of Hamateur Raddio (well over all others in radio), and
treasure the icon of icons, the amateur license certificate. Don't
bother to look towards the future...except to note the next ham
club date and time so you can continue to Spread The Word.

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"

Live your proper lifestyle of amateurism. Be an ascetic. Toss
around more acetic acid. [stop bath in darkrooms...fitting]

"Ohm, mane padme Ohm..."

I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue".

BTW, it's not a DAMN license.

For once you're right about SOMEthing concerning Amateur Radio, the typo
notwithstanding.

It's an official federal merit badge. Makes you invincible?

Ooooops...slipped back to being a putz. Bad Lennie. Not that we expected
anything less, though. You wouldn't be "you" any other way. Some
"professional".

Steve, K4YZ

It ain't that hard.

I'm aware of that. So is anyone in the public who cares to look.


But it still eludes you.

I say you just can't do it. You're afraid.



I'll cut Len a break in that if he does go for testing and
fails, he doesn't have to tell anyone. But he has to
go to the next session and try again. Only when he passes
does he have to tell us. And he doesn't have to get his
extra in one sitting...

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

I'll cut Len a break in that if he does go for testing and
fails, he doesn't have to tell anyone. But he has to
go to the next session and try again. Only when he passes
does he have to tell us. And he doesn't have to get his
extra in one sitting...

Yes I do. I HAVE to get an "extra out of the box!"

Once posted in here, such a thing will hang on for the LIFE
of the sayer. It's like Posting Bans!

I haven't taken my first amateur test yet. [took my last
commercial operator's test in front of the FCC in Chicago in
1956].

Maybe I'm not up to it? After all, it's such a Ruff and Tuff
session and I'm told there's a wash-out rate that is high.
Will there be any blood shed? Injuries during the test? Do
the VEC have standard obstacle courses or they individual?

Will my amateur service uniform be fitted right there if I pass?
Will there be a parade ceremony for all who pass later? Can
I get a commemorative photo taken if I pass? Can my wife
attend the ceremony? Friends? Neighbors?

Is there a clergyman there at the test session for counseling
all who fail? [hope it's a good Lutheran pastor] Will there be
a weapons search before a test session? Can't have anyone
despondent failure offing themselves.

BIG EVENT! Most important day of anyone's life!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

Sorry, Bobbie, that got away again... :-)

Open bands, old timer, wipe the back of those very wet ears...

LHA / WMD

Subject: FCC Morse testing at 16 and 20 WPM
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 7/20/2004 1:43 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

I'll cut Len a break...(SNIP)

Funny that Robert has always addressed Lennie Anderson as "Len" and has
never, to my recollection, misaddressed or otherwise refered to Lennie as
anything OTHER than his prefered given name.

So...how does Lennie treat Robert...?!?!

Sorry, Bobbie, that got away again...

Thanks, Lennie, for once again (three times this week alone!) proving my
assertion that you are a two-faced lying scumbag.

Not that I had any doubts.

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

I'll cut Len a break in that if he does go for testing and
fails, he doesn't have to tell anyone. But he has to
go to the next session and try again. Only when he passes
does he have to tell us. And he doesn't have to get his
extra in one sitting...

Yes I do. I HAVE to get an "extra out of the box!"

Only because you shot off your mouth in a fit of braggadocio.

Once posted in here, such a thing will hang on for the LIFE
of the sayer. It's like Posting Bans!

No, it isn't. It's like having your words come back to bite you in the
ass after you've issued a foolish boast.

I haven't taken my first amateur test yet.

No kidding!

... [took my last
commercial operator's test in front of the FCC in Chicago in
1956].

Irrelevant.

Maybe I'm not up to it?

Maybe not.

After all, it's such a Ruff and Tuff
session...

It isn't the Ruff or the Tuff. It's getting Len off of his Duff.

...and I'm told there's a wash-out rate that is high.
Will there be any blood shed? Injuries during the test? Do
the VEC have standard obstacle courses or they individual?

All of this is just a tap dance to lead us away from your boastful
claim, right?

Will my amateur service uniform be fitted right there if I pass?
Will there be a parade ceremony for all who pass later? Can
I get a commemorative photo taken if I pass? Can my wife
attend the ceremony? Friends? Neighbors?

You're another Gregory Hines.

Is there a clergyman there at the test session for counseling
all who fail? [hope it's a good Lutheran pastor] Will there be
a weapons search before a test session? Can't have anyone
despondent failure offing themselves.

BIG EVENT! Most important day of anyone's life!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

Sorry, Bobbie, that got away again... :-)

Always go for the diminuitive name tactic to make you appear superior,
grizzled old timer.

Open bands, old timer, wipe the back of those very wet ears...

Excuse me, Leonard. He already HAS an amateur ticket.

LHA / WMD

Gotta love that "Weapons of Mass Distraction" sig.

Dave K8MN

Subject: FCC Morse testing at 16 and 20 WPM
From: Dave Heil
Date: 7/20/2004 6:26 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

Yes I do. I HAVE to get an "extra out of the box!"

Only because you shot off your mouth in a fit of braggadocio.

Exactly...but this is different from any other Lenover21 post...How...???

Once posted in here, such a thing will hang on for the LIFE
of the sayer. It's like Posting Bans!

No, it isn't. It's like having your words come back to bite you in the
ass after you've issued a foolish boast.

Lennie accuses others of railing aginst him, but it's his own words and
deeds that constantly undermine his "credibility".

I haven't taken my first amateur test yet.

No kidding!

Coward. Just no other explanation for it, Dave.

... [took my last
commercial operator's test in front of the FCC in Chicago in
1956].

Irrelevant.

Maybe I'm not up to it?

Maybe not.

Definately not.

After all, it's such a Ruff and Tuff
session...

It isn't the Ruff or the Tuff. It's getting Len off of his Duff.

And there's a lot to get off of...

...and I'm told there's a wash-out rate that is high.
Will there be any blood shed? Injuries during the test? Do
the VEC have standard obstacle courses or they individual?

All of this is just a tap dance to lead us away from your boastful
claim, right?

"Obfuscation"..?!?! "Misdirection"...?!?! Not OUR Lennie!

Will my amateur service uniform be fitted right there if I pass?
Will there be a parade ceremony for all who pass later? Can
I get a commemorative photo taken if I pass? Can my wife
attend the ceremony? Friends? Neighbors?

You're another Gregory Hines.

He's dead...?!?! Shall we inform the next-of-kin...???

Is there a clergyman there at the test session for counseling
all who fail? [hope it's a good Lutheran pastor] Will there be
a weapons search before a test session? Can't have anyone
despondent failure offing themselves.

BIG EVENT! Most important day of anyone's life!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

Sorry, Bobbie, that got away again... :-)

Always go for the diminuitive name tactic to make you appear superior,
grizzled old timer.

Of course.

Lennie has always made a "big deal" about being subjected to the same
thing, but "HE" never does such things...

Of course we know this to be a lie since neither Robert Casey nor Jim
Miccolis refer to him by anything other than "Len" or "Mr. Anderson", yet we
have a dozen different belittling names Lennie uses against Jim.

Now he's started in with "Bobbie" on Mr Casey despite the fact that
Robert has ALWAYS treated Anderscum with respect.

Open bands, old timer, wipe the back of those very wet ears...

Excuse me, Leonard. He already HAS an amateur ticket.

Of course.

And other than his GROL, which he allegedly allowed to expire (still can't
figger out how an alleged "radio professional" could say he let a lifetime
license "expire" without himself expiring...) Lennie has NO license....No
operators permits, no station licenses, nada.

LHA / WMD

Gotta love that "Weapons of Mass Distraction" sig.

(L)iar (H)arboring (A)ntagonism / (W)antonly (M)isleads and (D)eceives

Steve, K4YZ

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Gotta love that "Weapons of Mass Distraction" sig.

Incorrect.

Weapon of MORSE Destruction. :-)

Said so quite a while ago.

Pamper up, old timer. Time for you to get regular.

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Gotta love that "Weapons of Mass Distraction" sig.

Incorrect.

Weapon of MORSE Destruction. :-)

If that is the case, aren't you embarrassed at being seen as a puny and
ineffective weapon?

Dave K8MN

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

Len, just get the damm license.

Just for the purpose of settling a very few newsgrope irregulars
who are irritated by controversy? :-)

No, Len, to satisfy your several decades of self-declared interest in
amateur radio and to be able to hold your head up after your "Extra
right out of the box" boast.

Not a good reason "for the service!" :-)

It ain't that hard.

I'm aware of that. So is anyone in the public who cares to look.

:-)

Don't just read about it, Len. Experience it first hand.

Hell even 5wpm.

So, learning a useless skill is considered "important?"

If you want an HF amateur license, it is considered important. You
could always tackle a code free ticket though.

I've never had to learn or use any manual telegraphy in 51 years of
actual communicating on HF.

Then again, you've never held an amateur radio license.

Morse code skill is an anachronism.

Sure it is, Leonard. So is AM. So is SSB. So is baudot RTTY.

Only amateurs use it with any
regularity and then those are only a few amateurs, a minority.

Only a few amateurs using morse? You're as wrong about that as you were
about Fessenden.

I did it and I'm no good at sort of "motor skill" kind of thing.

Not a good reason for me to waste my time trying to re-enact
the past.

You have to get out more. Thousands and thousands of radio amateurs use
morse in the present.

Then get on the air some.

Been there, done that, from LF on up to microwaves.

Not as a radio amateur, you haven't.

Did it earlier this year using an SGC SG-2020 on HF. :-)
[also late last year, same rig...both times very legal!]

:-) :-) :-)

Then you can speak with some creditability
here and other forums on ham radio.

Impossible! "Those without an amateur license have zero-point-
zero experience, don't know nuthin, etc., etc., etc., etc." :-)

My friend Jack has a license and experience. You don't know Jack.

Ham radio works by different principles than all other radios.
That's what I'm told. I don't believe them, but lots of hams do.

Operating principles are not the sum total of amateur radio.

As far as morseodism is concerned, I'm an atheist. I don't
worship at the Church of St. Hiram. Put away your collection
plate and Him books.

I get it. Because you don't find anything in which to believe, the rest
of us aren't supposed to take part for fear of offending you. How very
PC.

Dave K8MN