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Old September 6th 04, 05:13 AM
Dave Heil
 
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Len Over 21 wrote:

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Subject: ARRL to propose subband-by-bandwidth regulation
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Date: 9/2/2004 1:29 PM Central Standard Time
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(William) writes:



Tsk. I have no need for titles, rank, status. I am secure in what I
can do...from practical experience doing it...successfully.


Izzat why you use the ieee.org sig line, remind us periodically of your
membership and bring up your "name on the masthead" of 'Ham Radio'
magazine from time to time? How does your history as a PROFESSIONAL
appear so often?


Amateur radio is a HOBBY. It isn't a job. It isn't a union. It isn't a
guild. It isn't a craft. It is a hobby.


....one in which you are not involved.


Tsk. Irrelevant what I "have" or "don't have."


Actually, in a newsgroup dealing with amateur radio, it would seem quite
relevant that you are not a licensed radio amateur.

If all nursie can argue is about pieces of paper (suitable for framing),
then she is very shallow indeed.


One of those pieces of paper would make you a radio amateur. You
haven't passed any exam which would provide one of those pieces of
paper.


There was NO "GROL" when I took and passed my one test for
a First Class Radiotelephone (Commercial) Operator's license in
1956. Poor nursie just can't stand that someone did something
better than she did long ago. :-)


Better? Naw, just different. Your First Class Radiotelephone ticket
does nothing for you on the ham bands. For a guy who has no need of
status, you certainly bring up your "better than" First Phone often
enough.


Nursie got in. That should say it all... :-)


You didn't get in. That says much more. :-)

League membership is around 170K.


Still? Tsk. Less than a quarter of all licensed U.S. amateurs!

Coincidentally, the membership of the Academy of Model
Aeronautics is also about 170 thousand members.


Isn't that wonderful!

Academy members mostly fly radio-controlled model aircraft.
They lobbied for and got a whole band of VHF frequencies for
such a fun hobby. AMA even has insurance for members and
clubs, sponsors all sorts of competitive meets of flyers.


Wow! Another coincidence! ARRL has insurance for members and sponsors
all sorts of competitive events.


You can hear them "roar" on the bottom ends of the more popular HF
bands.


NOT on the 6, 9, 11, and 15 MHz bands. :-)

Those are "shortwave broadcast" bands...and are the "most popular."


Good listening, kindly old SWL.

Dave K8MN
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Old September 6th 04, 03:20 PM
Steve Robeson K4CAP
 
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Subject: ARRL to propose subband-by-bandwidth regulation
From: Dave Heil
Date: 9/5/2004 11:13 PM Central Standard Time
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Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,

(Mighty
Macho Morseman and Pilot In Command gunnery nurse) writes:

Subject: ARRL to propose subband-by-bandwidth regulation
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 9/2/2004 1:29 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(William) writes:



Tsk. I have no need for titles, rank, status. I am secure in what I
can do...from practical experience doing it...successfully.


Izzat why you use the ieee.org sig line, remind us periodically of your
membership and bring up your "name on the masthead" of 'Ham Radio'
magazine from time to time? How does your history as a PROFESSIONAL
appear so often?


And let us not forget Lennie's frequent appending of his former US Army
service number to the end of his posts...As if anyone care or if it mattered...

Amateur radio is a HOBBY. It isn't a job. It isn't a union. It isn't

a
guild. It isn't a craft. It is a hobby.


...one in which you are not involved.


Thank God...Maybe we can keep the scum in one puddle.

Tsk. Irrelevant what I "have" or "don't have."


Actually, in a newsgroup dealing with amateur radio, it would seem quite
relevant that you are not a licensed radio amateur.


Now DAVE! Why should we assume he'd have any relevent experience or
participation? He's got a big mouth, a bad attitude, and the idea that the
Constitutions guarantees somehow mean it's OK to be an antagonistic twerp.

One day, someone will throw a brick through his windows or flatten his
tires, and "all of a sudden" he will realize that there ARE penalties for
running your mouth off.

If all nursie can argue is about pieces of paper (suitable for framing),
then she is very shallow indeed.


One of those pieces of paper would make you a radio amateur. You
haven't passed any exam which would provide one of those pieces of
paper.


The shallow one is the twit that suggested that framable certificates were
"all (I) can argue".

There was NO "GROL" when I took and passed my one test for
a First Class Radiotelephone (Commercial) Operator's license in
1956. Poor nursie just can't stand that someone did something
better than she did long ago. :-)


Better? Naw, just different. Your First Class Radiotelephone ticket
does nothing for you on the ham bands. For a guy who has no need of
status, you certainly bring up your "better than" First Phone often
enough.


It's not "better than" anything now.

One can have a complete and fulfilling career in radiocommunications
WITHOUT an FCC license anymore.

And Lennie's GROL (nee First Phone) is useless even to him unless he's
operating under the auspices of somone else's STATION license.

Nursie got in. That should say it all...


You didn't get in. That says much more.

League membership is around 170K.


Still? Tsk. Less than a quarter of all licensed U.S. amateurs!

Coincidentally, the membership of the Academy of Model
Aeronautics is also about 170 thousand members.


Isn't that wonderful!


With even MORE potential members to draw from, that places AMA's
membership at even LESS as a total percentage than ARRL's membership
represents.

Academy members mostly fly radio-controlled model aircraft.
They lobbied for and got a whole band of VHF frequencies for
such a fun hobby.


Ooooooohhhhh......

Aaaaaaaaaahhhhhh......

55 DISCREET CHANNELS at 72Mhz and 30 at 75Mhz.

Let's not forget the SIX channels in the 11 meter CB band.

That's 91 channels.

Ooooooooooohhhhhhhhh.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

You can hear them "roar" on the bottom ends of the more popular HF
bands.


NOT on the 6, 9, 11, and 15 MHz bands. :-)

Those are "shortwave broadcast" bands...and are the "most popular."


They are the "most popular" where there is no cable or DISH-TV.

Good listening, kindly old SWL.


Listening, and nothing more...Except for Part 95 and Part 15 and his TV
and garage door remotes.

73

Steve, K4YZ






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Old September 10th 04, 06:35 PM
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In article ,
(Foul-mouthed Role Model of a Modern Ham Extra) writes:

Subject: ARRL to propose subband-by-bandwidth regulation
From:
(William)
Date: 9/8/2004 7:20 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...

Thank God...Maybe we can keep the scum in one puddle.

Now DAVE! Why should we assume he'd have any relevent experience or
participation? He's got a big mouth, a bad attitude, and the idea that

the
Constitutions guarantees somehow mean it's OK to be an antagonistic twerp.

One day, someone will throw a brick through his windows or flatten

his
tires, and "all of a sudden" he will realize that there ARE penalties for
running your mouth off.


So much for "civil discourse."

You're simply incapable of it.

Best of Luck.


There's nothing of what I said that's "uncivil", Brain.


Nearly ALL of nursie's output is uncivil.

Lennie's spent a long time building his foundation of hatred.


No "foundation of hatred" here. That's all in nursie's disordered
imagination and psychosis.

One of these days someone is likely to react. It happens everyday.
Read the papers.


In the Podunk Valley, TN, weekly newspeper?

More likely in this newsgroup. Nursie REACTS like a CB-plusser.

The ones I feel sorry for are Mrs Lennie and thier cats. I doubt she has
a clue as to how he acts in this open, public fourm. She will be the one
terrorized as a result of HIS actions.


Anyone attempting to "terrorize" my wife, me, or this household
will be in for a rude, painful surprise.

Google will, of course, archive this message made in a public venue.
The LAPD can access that. So can the telephone company security
people. So can AOL.

Intimidation "threats" made over a newsgroup are puerile rantings of
a deranged mind. No degrees or certificates needed to verify that.

Oh well.


Nursie is IN a well...one that is of despair, deep, cold and was dug
by herself in the unfertile imagination of her own mind. It has no
water and the bucket is filled with unmentionable waste...

Get help for yourself, nursie.




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Old September 10th 04, 11:17 PM
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: ARRL to propose subband-by-bandwidth regulation
From:
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Date: 9/8/2004 7:20 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Thank God...Maybe we can keep the scum in one puddle.

Now DAVE! Why should we assume he'd have any relevent experience or
participation? He's got a big mouth, a bad attitude, and the idea that the
Constitutions guarantees somehow mean it's OK to be an antagonistic twerp.

One day, someone will throw a brick through his windows or flatten his
tires, and "all of a sudden" he will realize that there ARE penalties for
running your mouth off.


So much for "civil discourse."

You're simply incapable of it.

Best of Luck.


There's nothing of what I said that's "uncivil", Brain.


Bricks through windows and slashed tires is acceptable in your neighborhood?

Lennie's spent a long time building his foundation of hatred.


You have credentials to be making such judgements?

One of these days someone is likely to react. It happens everyday. Read
the papers.


I see a threat in your remarks. A violent threat. Thrown bricks and slashed tires.

The ones I feel sorry for are Mrs Lennie and thier cats. I doubt she has
a clue as to how he acts in this open, public fourm. She will be the one
terrorized as a result of HIS actions.


Now threats of terrorism to his spouse, and unspeakable acts to "thier" cats.

Oh well.

Steve, K4YZ


Yeh, oh well.

So much for your civil discourse - you're simply incapable of it.
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Subject: ARRL to propose subband-by-bandwidth regulation
From: (William)
Date: 9/10/2004 5:17 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: ARRL to propose subband-by-bandwidth regulation
From:
(William)
Date: 9/8/2004 7:20 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...

Thank God...Maybe we can keep the scum in one puddle.

Now DAVE! Why should we assume he'd have any relevent experience

or
participation? He's got a big mouth, a bad attitude, and the idea that

the
Constitutions guarantees somehow mean it's OK to be an antagonistic

twerp.

One day, someone will throw a brick through his windows or flatten

his
tires, and "all of a sudden" he will realize that there ARE penalties

for
running your mouth off.

So much for "civil discourse."

You're simply incapable of it.

Best of Luck.


There's nothing of what I said that's "uncivil", Brain.


Bricks through windows and slashed tires is acceptable in your neighborhood?


Absolutely not.

Nor did I say I suggested someone DO it, Brain.

What I SAID was that Lennie makes it a habit of making enemies with his
insults and arrogant behaviour. I would not be surprised if it DID happen,
knowing the part of the United States he lives in.

Please read what I wrote...Not interject what you want.

Lennie's spent a long time building his foundation of hatred.


You have credentials to be making such judgements?


Yep. It's called an "archive". It's right here in front of you, Brain.

One of these days someone is likely to react. It happens everyday.

Read
the papers.


I see a threat in your remarks. A violent threat. Thrown bricks and slashed
tires.


It IS ugly, Brain.

And the thought of what pushes people to DO ugly things is almost as ugly.

I reiterate...I do not suggest nor condone such behaviour.

That YOU see a "threat" there is soley based upon guilty concious.

The ones I feel sorry for are Mrs Lennie and thier cats. I doubt she

has
a clue as to how he acts in this open, public fourm. She will be the one
terrorized as a result of HIS actions.


Now threats of terrorism to his spouse, and unspeakable acts to "thier" cats.

Oh well.

Steve, K4YZ


Yeh, oh well.

So much for your civil discourse - you're simply incapable of it.


It's still not uncivil, Brain. I stated that one day he's likely to push
the wrong buttons and infuriate the wrong people.. Knowing him from this forum
plus what has been told to me by persons who knew him, albeit many years ago,
Lennie lends himself to such reactions.

Get a grip, Burke, and please try to just read the words, NOT read INTO
them.

Steve, K4YZ





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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: ARRL to propose subband-by-bandwidth regulation
From:
(William)
Date: 9/10/2004 5:17 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: ARRL to propose subband-by-bandwidth regulation
From:
(William)
Date: 9/8/2004 7:20 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...

Thank God...Maybe we can keep the scum in one puddle.

Now DAVE! Why should we assume he'd have any relevent experience

or
participation? He's got a big mouth, a bad attitude, and the idea that

the
Constitutions guarantees somehow mean it's OK to be an antagonistic

twerp.

One day, someone will throw a brick through his windows or flatten

his
tires, and "all of a sudden" he will realize that there ARE penalties

for
running your mouth off.

So much for "civil discourse."

You're simply incapable of it.

Best of Luck.

There's nothing of what I said that's "uncivil", Brain.


Bricks through windows and slashed tires is acceptable in your neighborhood?


Absolutely not.

Nor did I say I suggested someone DO it, Brain.


Were you thinking about doing it yourself?

What I SAID was that Lennie makes it a habit of making enemies with his
insults and arrogant behaviour.


You should examine your own behavior.

I would not be surprised if it DID happen,
knowing the part of the United States he lives in.


You realize that if a brick were found through his window that you
would be implicated?

Please read what I wrote...Not interject what you want.


You're a creepy guy. You got the reaction that you were looking for.

Lennie's spent a long time building his foundation of hatred.


You have credentials to be making such judgements?


Yep. It's called an "archive". It's right here in front of you, Brain.


As are numerous "veiled" threats by you.

One of these days someone is likely to react. It happens everyday.

Read
the papers.


I see a threat in your remarks. A violent threat. Thrown bricks and slashed
tires.


It IS ugly, Brain.

And the thought of what pushes people to DO ugly things is almost as ugly.

I reiterate...I do not suggest nor condone such behaviour.


You've already suggested it. Now you're in the CYA mode. You better
hope that a brick isn't found thrown through his window.

That YOU see a "threat" there is soley based upon guilty concious.


You're a creepy guy. You got the reaction that you were looking for.

The ones I feel sorry for are Mrs Lennie and thier cats. I doubt she

has
a clue as to how he acts in this open, public fourm. She will be the one
terrorized as a result of HIS actions.


Now threats of terrorism to his spouse, and unspeakable acts to "thier" cats.


No comment indeed. That is for the best.

Oh well.

Steve, K4YZ


Yeh, oh well.

So much for your civil discourse - you're simply incapable of it.


It's still not uncivil, Brain. I stated that one day he's likely to push
the wrong buttons and infuriate the wrong people.. Knowing him from this forum
plus what has been told to me by persons who knew him, albeit many years ago,
Lennie lends himself to such reactions.


You're a creepy guy. You got the reaction that you were looking for.

Get a grip, Burke, and please try to just read the words, NOT read INTO
them.

Steve, K4YZ


You're a creepy guy. You got the reaction that you were looking for.


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