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August 25th 04, 11:52 PM
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(Brian) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (William) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: And this was not about you. It was about Brian P Burke misrepresenting his identity and not being man enough or having the conviction to stand behind his opinions. More transference. NURSIE doesn't pay much attention to his emotional outbursts in here...says he "never said such a thing" after he said it. Strange. Of course; he lies. But since he's nuts he's not responsible for his actions. Yell-yell will rationalize anything... Maybe he was battered as a child? Tempura best. Corn flour second best. He rolled in tar den fethers. Teribull batter. True. Maybe he was the subject of a new fast-food culinary delight called "horn dog on a stick?" :-) Because I do have convictions I receive a lot of flack from Yell DMC. Yell-yell be da dill sergeant still. He obsessed wid it. He stoopid jerk. It OK. He not sponsible for he actions. I tink dat why he not in da murines no mo' For instance, when Part 97 says you cannot take compensation for amateur radio, then a repeater owner charges dues.... Mama Dee say dat okay. Dee say many thing. Sumptin she right, sumptin she wong. Noo noo. Always RIGHT, always right! Of course we gots da HRO stores making profit from ham radio... But dey not get paid for transmitting. Control Op/rpeeter owner do. In dat case, at least one HRO store guilty... :-) [that's the one that nursie went to but doesn't remember where it is in any detail...:-) ] For instance, when Part 97 specifies only a Morse Code exam can satisfy element 1, and the VEC's administer Farnsworth exams.... Mama Dee say dat ok too. She say Part 97 doesn't describe hamexaminations. She wrongo. We spank Mama for boo-boo? No spankin Dee. Mite make joy. Ah so! :-) For instance, when a poster states, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!" DoD ought to spank Yell-yell. :-) Ott do more work rebiltating stoopid jerk. Donny R. otta writ a letter to VA. For instance, when a poster behaves insanely, I call him nuts. ...or irrational...or whacko...or crazy...or an extra? :-) LHA / WMD Fruitcake. From 1957 holiday season... |
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August 26th 04, 09:42 AM
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Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From: (Brian) Date: 8/25/2004 2:46 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (William) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: And this was not about you. It was about Brian P Burke misrepresenting his identity and not being man enough or having the conviction to stand behind his opinions. More transference. NURSIE doesn't pay much attention to his emotional outbursts in here...says he "never said such a thing" after he said it. Strange. Of course; he lies. But since he's nuts he's not responsible for his actions. Yell-yell will rationalize anything... Maybe he was battered as a child? Tempura best. Corn flour second best. He rolled in tar den fethers. Teribull batter. Because I do have convictions I receive a lot of flack from Yell DMC. Yell-yell be da dill sergeant still. He obsessed wid it. He stoopid jerk. It OK. He not sponsible for he actions. Brian, you took the first step, and I admire and appreciate that. Now if we can get you to stop the baby-babble and Lenniesque insults, we'll be at the point you said we can't be at. 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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August 29th 04, 02:21 AM
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#5
August 24th 04, 11:35 AM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , More than you. By a mile. You were nothing more than a radio mechanic. That's ALL the evidence you have ever provided this forum. YOU were NEVER a "military radio operator". NOT "mechanic," Diminutive Man. Fixed station operations and maintenance supervisor. But never a radio OPERATOR. HF transmitter with 1 KW or more, dozens of them. But never a radio OPERATOR. Microwave radio relay operations and maintenance supervisor. But never a radio OPERATOR. Twenty-four voice channel 1.8 GHz terminals made by GE. Who cares if they were made by The Hand of God? You were never a radio OPERATOR. I didn't work for a "set top box maker", Lennie. The "company" I worked for was a subsidiary. I was not an employee of ANTEC. You were told this before, but still try to use it as a diminuitive. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Antec makes "set-top boxes." They say so, show so. What, NURSIE do "volunteer work" for good of company? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wasn't an ANTEC employeee, Lennie. I worked for a subsidiary. Sorry you have a problem with that, but have a good laugh...it IS at your own expense. NURSIE want to make "LIARS" out of Department of Defense, United States Army, National Archives and Records Administration, and the Pacific edition of Stars and Stripes military newspaper! NURSIE also want to make a "LIAR" out of the private Korean War website...and anyone else who can truthfully prove things. NURSIE need to talk to the Barkers and tell them, in no uncertain terms, that ANY honoring of Korean War dead is "dishonorable!" But you don't honor them, Lennie. You try to USE thier sacrifices in order to make yourself look better in THIS forum. It's got nothing to do with the Department of Defense. It's got nothing to do with the Pacific Stars and Stripes or any other veteran's organizations or websites. It's about Leonard H. Anderson trying to use the sacrifices of Soldiers who died in combat three years before he was even inducted in order to somehow glorify his otherwise lackluster Army service in an Amateur Radio newsgroup. That in and of itself makes you a creep of unfathomable depth. Psychological transference again. NURSIE look in mirror, try to call others what she see in mirror. Tsk. It's all on documents at NARA in St. Louis. Not the parts you tried to push off on us here. NARA has all my military experience documentation. It's not about what was documented 50 years ago Lennie. It's about your misdeeds in THIS forum. I am sure you are sorry you got caught doing it, but you did. "Sorry?" I'm rather sorry to encounter such a nutso as yourself...but life is like that. I am sure you ARE sorry to have encountered me. Really sucks to try and pull off the silly stuf you do in here only to have someone who KNOWS BETTER to derail it for ya... It's in the experiences of other hams such as Gene, N2JTV, who served WITH me at the same time. Too bad Gene didn't get a chance to read some of the cowardly crap you pulled in here. He still can if he bothers to look in from home in Long Island. :-) I don't know why he would. Although he's been a REAL extra for a long time, this forum's basic content is NURSIE shouting, hollering, and yell-yelling at everyone else! As well as talking NATIONAL POLITICS, THE ECONOMY, SPACE BUSINESS, and other wonderful subjects where the "qualifications" require high-rate morsemanship. A "real" Extra? Sheesh, Lennie, I've had mine for almost 24 years now. Doesn't get much more real than that. Your friend couldn't have had his any sooner than 1982 or 83, judging by the callsign. His is not a vanity callsign, so it was issued sequentially. The sequential system was introduced in 1978. I have no idea how quickly the 1x3 block in 2-land filled up, but I think its safe to say that N2JTV wasn't issued before 1983 or later. It's even in the Pacific edition of the military newspaper Stars and Stripes, in their 10 November 2002 edition...including six photos that I took. Whoopie doo. Two pictures I took wound up in Naval Air News and that has a far wider distribution that PacS&S. So give me a Pulitzer. You keep giving your opponents a "Putziler." You deserve it. You earned it. It fits. Rest of LennieRant snipped. SOS. Steve, K4YZ |
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#6
August 24th 04, 10:38 PM
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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , More than you. By a mile. You were nothing more than a radio mechanic. That's ALL the evidence you have ever provided this forum. YOU were NEVER a "military radio operator". NOT "mechanic," Diminutive Man. Fixed station operations and maintenance supervisor. But never a radio OPERATOR. Yes, I was. QSYing a transmitter and making sure it stays on frequency is OPERATING. HF comms across Pacific would routinely do about 3 QSYs per 24 hour period. With at least 30 transmitters on-circuit 24/7 that meant at least 10 QSYs per shift. QSYs had to be fast to minimize circuit out time, were done in under 3 minutes...more than half of which required frequency standards at receiver site to confirm mark and space frequencies for RTTY circuits. Down-time reduction was important when monthly throughput of messages averaged 220 thousand (1955). HF transmitter with 1 KW or more, dozens of them. But never a radio OPERATOR. Yell-yell WRONGO again. See above. Yell-yell not able to change final links on 15 KW Press Wireless transmitter in time required. :-) Microwave radio relay operations and maintenance supervisor. But never a radio OPERATOR. Not as AMATEUR operator, Yell-yell. Try to understand that 24/7 operations is NOT the same as AMATEUR fun and games. Serious business to maximize up-time on circuits. Twenty-four voice channel 1.8 GHz terminals made by GE. Who cares if they were made by The Hand of God? GE (General Electric Company) is NOT that religious...they just made good radio and electronics equipment. You were never a radio OPERATOR. WRONGO again. Using an AN/PRC-6 HT or the manpack (we called it "backpack" then) AN/PRC-8 most definitely involved OPERATING...as close to the amateur idea of OPERATING but without all the QSLs or the fish stories of DXCC awards. :-) I wasn't an ANTEC employeee, Lennie. I worked for a subsidiary. Sorry you have a problem with that, but have a good laugh...it IS at your own expense. Tsk, tsk, TSK! I never mentioned "ANTEC." Doesn't matter...all you were was a purchasing agent, and for less than half a year. NO work IN engineering, doing design or test. NURSIE need to talk to the Barkers and tell them, in no uncertain terms, that ANY honoring of Korean War dead is "dishonorable!" But you don't honor them, Lennie. Poor NURSIE, got the differences of HONOR and DISHONOR all mixed up. You try to USE thier sacrifices in order to make yourself look better in THIS forum. ? NURSIE MANUFACTURED "dishonor." It's got nothing to do with the Department of Defense. Yes it does. U.S. Army part of Department of Defense. 71st Signal Service Battalion was part of U.S. Army. I was in the 71st as well as all those other soldiers of the 71st. It's got nothing to do with the Pacific Stars and Stripes or any other veteran's organizations or websites. Tell that to all the military members and their dependents then. Stars & Stripes military newspaper is published worldwide FOR them. Tell that to Hal and Ted Barker of the Korean War Project. Tell them that they "dishonor" the Korean veterans by having that website. "Tell it to the Marines." :-) It's about Leonard H. Anderson trying to use the sacrifices of Soldiers who died in combat three years before he was even inducted in order to somehow glorify his otherwise lackluster Army service in an Amateur Radio newsgroup. WRONGO again. Tsk. I wasn't "inducted." I was a volunteer. That showed up on my Army Serial Number as the "RA" prefix. Inductees got a "US" prefix on that ASN. "Lackluster career?" I was assigned in a "rear area." Most battalions serving an area command ARE in rear areas. Very few got a chance to pick where they were going to be. I never intended to make a "career" in the military. I would be drafted soon anyway and took a personal step to volunteer. No problem. "Lackluster?" Tsk, tsk. It was the opportunity for the radio-interested to begin in BIG TIME communications. ACAN (Army Command and Administrative Network) was worldwide, thousands of circuits, all in operation 24/7. No hobby that, was military Big Business sort of operations. It's about your misdeeds in THIS forum. Tsk, tsk. In Stevieland of Fantasy, a "misdeed" is TALKING BACK to the gunnery nurse! :-) Poor NURSIE, still smarting about being talked-back to! Tsk. I am sure you ARE sorry to have encountered me. Nah. NURSIE just like all the other ego-boosting self-important ignoramuses waving credientials and claiming smarts and self- importance. Seen dozens just like her. Really sucks to try and pull off the silly stuf you do in here only to have someone who KNOWS BETTER to derail it for ya... Okay, when I find one of those, I'll tell everyone who it is... So far, I haven't found any that "knows better." Hi hi and a Ho ho! :-) |
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August 25th 04, 02:32 PM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , More than you. By a mile. You were nothing more than a radio mechanic. That's ALL the evidence you have ever provided this forum. YOU were NEVER a "military radio operator". NOT "mechanic," Diminutive Man. Fixed station operations and maintenance supervisor. But never a radio OPERATOR. Yes, I was. QSYing a transmitter and making sure it stays on frequency is OPERATING. Oh, Cool. You reached up and changed the channel. THAT took skill. HF comms across Pacific would routinely do about 3 QSYs per 24 hour period. With at least 30 transmitters on-circuit 24/7 that meant at least 10 QSYs per shift. Ahhhhh...You changed the channel three times a day. Oooooooohhhhhhhh...NOW I am IMPRESSED! But never a radio OPERATOR. Yell-yell WRONGO again. See above. Uh huh...So impressive...Changed the channel on the presets. Try again, Sir Putzy. Rest of usual muck and mayhem deleted. You started off stupid and got worse (if that's possible) Steve, K4YZ |
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#8
August 25th 04, 11:07 PM
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In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , More than you. By a mile. You were nothing more than a radio mechanic. That's ALL the evidence you have ever provided this forum. YOU were NEVER a "military radio operator". NOT "mechanic," Diminutive Man. Fixed station operations and maintenance supervisor. But never a radio OPERATOR. Yes, I was. QSYing a transmitter and making sure it stays on frequency is OPERATING. Oh, Cool. You reached up and changed the channel. WRONG! Frequency synthesizers enabling channel-changing with ease did not appear until the 1960s. [the first of which were the stepped two-crystal-oscillator-bank mixed types for civil aviation] The exact-frequency synthesizers for fixed-point HF broadcast did not appear until about 1964. A QSY at any ACAN station of the 1950s would involve at least 3 persons, two at a transmitter site, one at a receiver site using a General Radio LF to HF precision frequency measuring instrument. At ADA, Control at Chuo Kogyo (just outside of Camp Drake) would issue the QSY order over the TTY order wire; both transmitters and frequency standards at Receivers were on that loop. Receivers "freq standards" would begin setting up for the new carrier frequency. At transmitters, one operator disable the appropriate exciter, then would go behind the many racks of exciters (O-5s at that time) and get a crystal from the heated crystal cabinet (6 foot high, glass doors), change the crystal in the exciter from the back. ADA did their own crystal finishing. Frequencies were all given code names, for nemonic convenience not secrecy...avoided accidental transposition of numbers. Korean circuit frequency names were all given beer brands...:-) The other person at transmitters (if only for a 1 KW Tx, the big PW-15s usually took two operators for safety) would key off the separate transmitter, reset the adjustments to a chart (prepared by maintenance specialists on the team), wait for the exciter man to finish with his task. When RF was getting to the Tx, the Tx man would tweak-tune the settings, paying close attention to neutralizing the final (BC-339s had push-pull triode 833s in PA) in addition to making sure the loading was good. By that time, freq standards was set up and their freq meter's audio would be fed into a reserved telephone circuit pair to transmitters. We could hear it on the speakers. The trick chief would ask Control for "fox test" on the TTY circuit ("The quick brown fox...etc." from one of three such automatic cam-driven generators at Carriers in Chuo Kogyo. Exciter man would zero beat on the Mark, engage keying and set the "spread" (shift) in a double heterodyne of comparing the 850 cycle tone from Stds with a transmitter tone generator fixed at 850 cycles. Once that was set (all around the console could hear it) the trick chief signalled over the order wire for Stds to check it. Frequency Standards would do their final measure and report the Mark and Space frequencies (if within tolerance) on the order wire TTY. If something was drifting or the measures were out of tolerance, Stds reported that, too, and we would have to tweak the exciter all over again. [accepted RTTY spread back then was 850 Hz] Maximum time to QSY for RF out at transmitters was under 2 minutes. Total QSY time, including the Stds measurement and reporting, was under 3 minutes. That included the large PW-15s (15 KW conservative output) that had two 3-foot long copper segmented shorting bars (with two long tightening screws) which "tapped" the huge final tank coil windings. The old pre-WW2 Western Electric SSB (12 KHz wide in the "commercial" sideband arrangement containing four 3 KHz voice bandwidth channels) was quite fussy and might take an extra minute or two, including extra time at Stds to confirm frequencies. The new Western Electric LD-T2 SSB was much better (one in 1953, four more arrived in 1955) in that 12 tuned circuits were all servo-motor controlled from a bank of 120 potentiometers inside that were preset to 10 "channels" or authorized carrier frequencies. The LD-T2 was QSYed by walking up to it, operating two key switches to disable output and modulation, pushing a "channel" selector button, then waiting until the indicator light showed auto- tuning was correct. Then the two key switches were returned to normal transmit and the RF current meter on the antenna lines checked. Took less than a minute to do that, took Stds a bit longer to confirm the correct carrier frequency (pilot carrier in mid-sideband). THAT took skill. It did for the SSB transmitters, including the LD-T2. Maintenance on the teams had to reset the preset pots if a new frequency was authorized. That required the same tuning-up was with a manual- control Tx. The difference between that and the RTTY transmitters was the requirement to check the audio quality for both level and distortion. The objective was MINIMUM DOWN TIME so as to keep the up-time for actual message transmissions maximum. A typical SSB radio circuit carried a voice order-wire channel, an overseas radiotelephone voice channel, and 8 to 12 TTY channels, all on the same transmitter. At least four of the RTTY radio circuits had time-multiplexed TTY to carry up to four TTY channels; outage on one of those circuits was multiplied four time. HF comms across Pacific would routinely do about 3 QSYs per 24 hour period. With at least 30 transmitters on-circuit 24/7 that meant at least 10 QSYs per shift. Ahhhhh...You changed the channel three times a day. WRONG. I wrote TEN times per shift...on the average. We would do at least 8 on a calm-ionosphere work shift but could do as many as 18 QSYs if the ionosphere was doing nonsense. At the old transmitter site on Tsukushima, commercial Japanese power was primary. That power was not consistent and any shift might have to do a full recheck after cutting over to standby generators (400 KWe minimum out of six motor-generator sets). That meant EVERYTHING that was on-circuit had to be checked, including poor Frequency Standards having to juggle their General Radio instrument controls for every single radio circuit and reporting it on the order-wire. The new site at Kashiwa (later renamed Camp Tomlinson) had 600 KWe 24/7 motor-generators and did not rely on Japanese electric power. Oooooooohhhhhhhh...NOW I am IMPRESSED! You should be, but then you've never been tasked with that sort of job. It's easy for you push-button black-box changers to make fun of manual control over nearly everything. ADA did have "VFO" control through a couple of Northern Electric tunable exciters, but nearly all the HF radios were crystal controlled, TTY through SSB. The microwave radio relay terminals (arriving late 1954) were all crystal controlled at 1.8 GHz (!). Predecessors to the uWave were TRC-1 VHF radio relay (FM, both Rx and Tx crystalled) and TRC-8 UHF radio relay (FM, Tx crystal, Rx manually tuned). Land forces HT radio, PRC-6, was crystal-controlled, no channel changing possible. The backpack PRC-8 through -10, was actually "VFO" on low VHF, manually tuned via a built-in crystal harmonic calibrator. Surprisingly, the "PRC-8 family" was stable as well as rugged, holding its locked manually-tuned frequency within spec. But never a radio OPERATOR. Yell-yell WRONGO again. See above. Uh huh...So impressive...Changed the channel on the presets. Only on the single WE LD-T2...but then I had to set up those presets from the beginning. :-) The other 35 transmitters (besides the 8 that were installed later, the new LD-T2 and the 40 KW Collins linear amplifiers, all preset pretuned) were MANUAL tuning 7-foot high transmitters. A single Collins 1 KW Autotune transmitter was there for about a half year, but used only for the FEC Commander's aircraft. That was "traded" (?) with the USAF for a couple Wilcox HF transmitters with the old brute-force AM power amps. The Wilcox Tx was interesting in that it had 3 separate HF boxes, selectable by a switch. While that might be taken as "channelization" those were fussy beasts and had to be constantly checked if up; ADA later sent the RF part back to the depot, keeping the big AM power amp and supply, marrying it with a 1 KW BC-339 CW transmitter now becoming a 1 KW AM radio circuit. That worked just fine and could also (like the lower power truck mounted HF field radio) carry simultaneous TTY via an FSK exciter. Except for the post-WW2 WE Tx, GE microwave terminals, and Northern Electric exciters, almost all of the equipment we used at ADA was made on contract during WW2. That includes the VHF and UHF radio relay equipment used when phone cables went down. The two ancient WE SSB transmitters were built prior to WW2. All tubes, nearly all manually operated. Try again, Sir Putzy. Rest of usual muck and mayhem deleted. You started off stupid and got worse (if that's possible) Tsk, tsk, tsk. I see that there's no possibily of your replying in a "civil discourse" manner. You continue to make fun of something you know absolutely nothing of and won't take the trouble to find out. Not good. NURSIE is SPOILED by modern, solid-state, frequency-synthesized tune to any frequency with crystal stability ham equipment...and fine military airborne equipment she never once had any responsibility for designing or proving. Tsk. |
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#9
August 27th 04, 12:59 AM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , More than you. By a mile. You were nothing more than a radio mechanic. That's ALL the evidence you have ever provided this forum. YOU were NEVER a "military radio operator". NOT "mechanic," Diminutive Man. Fixed station operations and maintenance supervisor. But never a radio OPERATOR. Yes, I was. QSYing a transmitter and making sure it stays on frequency is OPERATING. Oh, Cool. You reached up and changed the channel. WRONG! He tink it like chanjin da channel on he CB. Not so simpel. |
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#10
August 30th 04, 11:44 AM
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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ... It's in the experiences of other hams such as Gene, N2JTV, who served WITH me at the same time. Too bad Gene didn't get a chance to read some of the cowardly crap you pulled in here. He still can if he bothers to look in from home in Long Island. :-) I don't know why he would. Although he's been a REAL extra for a long time, this forum's basic content is NURSIE shouting, hollering, and yell-yelling at everyone else! As well as talking NATIONAL POLITICS, THE ECONOMY, SPACE BUSINESS, and other wonderful subjects where the "qualifications" require high-rate morsemanship. A "real" Extra? Sheesh, Lennie, I've had mine for almost 24 years now. Doesn't get much more real than that. Your friend couldn't have had his any sooner than 1982 or 83, judging by the callsign. His is not a vanity callsign, so it was issued sequentially. The sequential system was introduced in 1978. I have no idea how quickly the 1x3 block in 2-land filled up, but I think its safe to say that N2JTV wasn't issued before 1983 or later. What happened Lennie? Trip and stub your toe after this? Tried to pull yet another fast one and got tripped up over that "LACK OF PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE" thing...Of course it's been discussed in here on more than one occassion, and HAD you been paying atention, you MIGHT have clued yourself in. You have yet to explain how your friend's Extra Class license is any more "real" than anyone elses. I checked Part 97, and I didn't find one single sentence that suggests that his license has so much as one cycle more of "realness" than mine or anyone elses. Of course compared to YOUR Amateur license, his IS more "real"... Steve, K4YZ |
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