Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: Dave Heil
Date: 9/10/2004 11:48 PM Central Standard Time
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Len Over 21 wrote:

Davie boy...I am fully qualified, by long experience and training
to "operate" radio equipment.

So you've told us on countless occasions. Of course, that would seem to
be a mode dependent statement.

I'm just not AUTHORIZED to emit
RF within U.S. amateur radio bands as a civilian.

That's funny, I thought I said that. I'll not that you are not in the
military so "as a civilian" would be the only way for you to emit RF in
the ham bands. Ah, but you can't do that.

Nor is Lennie AUTHORIZED to emit RF within any OTHER band, except within
the limits of the STATION LICENSE of the person or entity who retains his
services, and then ONLY when acting under the auspices of that license.

So sayeth the FCC.

You have self-established "definitions" which are incorrect outside
of amateurism.

"Amateurism"? What, pray tell, is that? The only definition I'm
concerned with, Lennie boy, is the one which prevents you from taking to
the air under Part 97 of the FCC regs.

I am wondering about those "self-established "definitions"" too.

Seems to me that all of the licensed persons here (with the exception of
Vippy) pretty much understand all of the "definitions". The one who is
confused and keeps trying to re-write any "definitions" is the guy without the
license and without any practical experience in AMATEUR Radio.

To use your definitions in your own quaint way of
defining things, I couldn't even check out radios on a bench in a
clean room.

...not transmitters with an antenna attached under Part 97, you
couldn't.
My "quaint way" says that you aren't a ham. It really is that simple.

You imply (incorrectly) that I could not, ever,
"operate" any radio in any HF place...which is not truth according
to U.S. radio regulations.

You MAY operate an HF radio on 11 meters without further licensure or
exam. You may also do so under Part 15 in certain bands.

You may only operate a maritime radio that has a proper FCC station
license, and with the permission of the owner or Captain. (assuming you are on
a US-flagged vessel.)

I implied no such thing, Lennie boy. I wrote quite precisely what I
meant to convey. I couldn't care less about where you operate HF as a
non-radio amateur which, after all, is what you are.

Seems Lennie's a "non" in a LOT of things.

Amateur radio operators are NOT authorized to emit RF outside of
amateur radio bands...unless they have a valid commercial radio
operator's license.

Do you think that comes as a surprise to those of us who are radio
amateurs? Is it your feeling that we'd feel hurt by such a statement?

Why does Lennie seem to think that uttering all sorts of obscure
"revelations" about radio regulations presents him as "enlightened"...???

With the aforementioned exceptions not withstanding, Lennie is not
authorized to emit RF ANYwhere where the Stars and Stripes flies.

It really is THAT simple.

73

Steve, K4YZ

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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: Dave Heil
Date: 9/10/2004 11:48 PM Central Standard Time
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Nor is Lennie AUTHORIZED to emit RF within any OTHER band, except within
the limits of the STATION LICENSE of the person or entity who retains his
services, and then ONLY when acting under the auspices of that license.

So sayeth the FCC.

What sayeth Part 15?

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/11/2004 10:11 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: Dave Heil
Date: 9/10/2004 11:48 PM Central Standard Time
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Nor is Lennie AUTHORIZED to emit RF within any OTHER band, except
within
the limits of the STATION LICENSE of the person or entity who retains his
services, and then ONLY when acting under the auspices of that license.

So sayeth the FCC.

What sayeth Part 15?

I believe I have repeatedly stated "...Part 15 and Part 95 operation
notwithstanding" as it pertains to Lennie's "HF" operating, Brain.

And Lennie STILL can't operate any radio station on HF without an FCC
issued station license, Part 15 and Part 95 notwithstanding...

BTW, Brain, Your Mentor spent some amount of time bragging about how he
could/would get on "HF" per Part 15 within the Amateur Bands, however has yet
to do it. Wonder what's keeping him...?!?!

Wonder how long it takes a professional radio engineer to slap together
enough 2n2222's to emit Part 15 level RF ...???

Sheeeesh.

Steve, K4YZ

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/11/2004 10:11 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: Dave Heil
Date: 9/10/2004 11:48 PM Central Standard Time
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Nor is Lennie AUTHORIZED to emit RF within any OTHER band, except
within
the limits of the STATION LICENSE of the person or entity who retains his
services, and then ONLY when acting under the auspices of that license.

So sayeth the FCC.

What sayeth Part 15?

I believe I have repeatedly stated "...Part 15 and Part 95 operation
notwithstanding" as it pertains to Lennie's "HF" operating, Brain.

You may beleive that, but I don't. I guess you forgot to repeat it
this time.

And Lennie STILL can't operate any radio station on HF without an FCC
issued station license, Part 15 and Part 95 notwithstanding...

Really?

BTW, Brain, Your Mentor spent some amount of time bragging about how he
could/would get on "HF" per Part 15 within the Amateur Bands, however has yet
to do it. Wonder what's keeping him...?!?!

How would you know? Do you think a 6-land station would make a DX
spot?

Wonder how long it takes a professional radio engineer to slap together
enough 2n2222's to emit Part 15 level RF ...???

Ask Jim. He even knows how long it would take Bruce to ace the Extra
written w/o studying.

Sheeeesh.

Steve, K4YZ

Sheeeesh indeed.

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/12/2004 6:14 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/11/2004 10:11 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: Dave Heil
Date: 9/10/2004 11:48 PM Central Standard Time
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Nor is Lennie AUTHORIZED to emit RF within any OTHER band, except
within
the limits of the STATION LICENSE of the person or entity who retains
his
services, and then ONLY when acting under the auspices of that license.

So sayeth the FCC.

What sayeth Part 15?

I believe I have repeatedly stated "...Part 15 and Part 95 operation
notwithstanding" as it pertains to Lennie's "HF" operating, Brain.

You may beleive that, but I don't. I guess you forgot to repeat it
this time.

There ya go with typos again after having "chastised" me on several
occassions for doing the same thing.

More of that "NCTA Double Standard" stuff.

I DO believe it. I have said it. You may ask around the NG.

Your "mentor" insists that typos are evidence of anger and rage. What are
you in an angry rage about, Brain?

And Lennie STILL can't operate any radio station on HF without an FCC
issued station license, Part 15 and Part 95 notwithstanding...

Really?

Really. It's clearly stated on the back of his GROL. It's clearly stated
on the back of EVERY GROL ticket for that matter. Again, feel free to ask
around.

No station license or grant from the FCC...No "operating".

BTW, Brain, Your Mentor spent some amount of time bragging about how
he
could/would get on "HF" per Part 15 within the Amateur Bands, however has
yet
to do it. Wonder what's keeping him...?!?!

How would you know? Do you think a 6-land station would make a DX
spot?

Does he have to?

All he has to do is say "I will be on 14.xxxMhz at xxxx Zulu in the xx
mode" in this forum.

I am sure we'd be all ears, including several "regulars" of this forum who
would actually be close enough to hear him.
\ Wonder how long it takes a professional radio engineer to slap
together
enough 2n2222's to emit Part 15 level RF ...???

Ask Jim. He even knows how long it would take Bruce to ace the Extra
written w/o studying.

We're not talking about Bruce or Jim.

Sheeeesh.

Steve, K4YZ

Sheeeesh indeed.

You're looking idiotic again, Brain. Work your way out of it....

Steve, K4YZ

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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/12/2004 6:14 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/11/2004 10:11 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: Dave Heil
Date: 9/10/2004 11:48 PM Central Standard Time
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Nor is Lennie AUTHORIZED to emit RF within any OTHER band, except
within
the limits of the STATION LICENSE of the person or entity who retains
his
services, and then ONLY when acting under the auspices of that license.

So sayeth the FCC.

What sayeth Part 15?

I believe I have repeatedly stated "...Part 15 and Part 95 operation
notwithstanding" as it pertains to Lennie's "HF" operating, Brain.

You may beleive that, but I don't. I guess you forgot to repeat it
this time.

There ya go with typos again after having "chastised" me on several
occassions for doing the same thing.

No typo. You consistently misspell "thier." Are you in a rage or are
you just ignorant?

More of that "NCTA Double Standard" stuff.

I DO believe it. I have said it. You may ask around the NG.

Your "mentor" insists that typos are evidence of anger and rage.

I've seen you propose the very same thing. Great minds think alike?

What are
you in an angry rage about, Brain?

I've been overly tormented by some jerk shooting off his mouth!

"Dialing..."

Hi, hi!

And Lennie STILL can't operate any radio station on HF without an FCC
issued station license, Part 15 and Part 95 notwithstanding...

Really?

Really. It's clearly stated on the back of his GROL.

What does your GROL say?

It's clearly stated
on the back of EVERY GROL ticket for that matter. Again, feel free to ask
around.

Well I'll be! There it is right on the back of my very own GROL.

Let me look at the back of my MARS license.

Well I'll be!!! It says, "MARS IS Amateur Radio!"

Hi, hi, hi, hi, hi!

No station license or grant from the FCC...No "operating".

At least not at Dave's tar paper shack! He'd be welcome here.

I wonder if he could operate on mil freqs?

BTW, Brain, Your Mentor spent some amount of time bragging about how
he
could/would get on "HF" per Part 15 within the Amateur Bands, however has
yet
to do it. Wonder what's keeping him...?!?!

How would you know? Do you think a 6-land station would make a DX
spot?

Does he have to?

Well how else?

All he has to do is say "I will be on 14.xxxMhz at xxxx Zulu in the xx
mode" in this forum.

I think G. Gordon Liddy said the very same thing after Watergate,
expecting to be assassinated. Though he wasn't assassinated, he never
did talk.

I am sure we'd be all ears,

Some would be all belly.

including several "regulars" of this forum who would actually be close enough to hear him.

But without a callsign, he could be any number of Extra's who fail to
ID regularly.

\ Wonder how long it takes a professional radio engineer to slap
together
enough 2n2222's to emit Part 15 level RF ...???

Ask Jim. He even knows how long it would take Bruce to ace the Extra
written w/o studying.

We're not talking about Bruce or Jim.

You said "professional radio engineer." Forgot that Bruce was a VCR
tech, and ... what does Jim do again? Oh, yeh, he builds radios from
kits. Or maybe you were referring to the guy with "real military
experience."

What an odd bunch.

Then there's that nut with seven hostile actions.

Sheeeesh.

Steve, K4YZ

Sheeeesh indeed.

You're looking idiotic again, Brain. Work your way out of it....

Looking???

You got a web cam or sumptin?

Nevermind - don't wanna know.

Steve, K4YZ

Best of Luck.

"William" wrote

You consistently misspell "thier." Are you in a rage or are
you just ignorant?

And you just misspelled "their". You don't seem to be in a rage, so
I'll draw the obvious conclusion.

With all kind wishes,

de Hans, K0HB