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Subject: Who peed in the pool
From: Mike Coslo Date: 9/16/2004 6:49 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: Len Over 21 wrote: Tsk, tsk. You want a meeting with charts and graphs and an experienced presenter to show you examples of the infamous Double Standard?!?!? hmm, maybe. *Your answer* is what needs explaining. If I don't care about your mode, nor Steve's mode of expression, and you two are on opposite sides of the discussion, I need an explanation of why that means that I have a double standard. Tsk. Still need an "explanation?" Not a good reply, Coslo. Nor a good explanation. Lennie doesn't HAVE a "Double Standard" that he can use as an example, Mike. That's why he dodged answering your post. Nope, I took the summer off to rest a torn meniscus. Takes longer to heal as time marches on. Who filled in under your name in here "all summer?" What are you talking about? You'll have to forgive Lennie...If you posted even once in that time period, he assumes that you anxiously devoured each and ever word he wrote as if there were no other nourishment to be had. Or you may be smoking some "good stuff" that Bob Casey said I was... :-) nahh. nothing stronger than the occasional beer for me. 3.2 stuff? :-) You smoke beer? How is that done? :-) So. you deliberately misunderstand me to serve as the content of your replies? noted! 8^) Of course. "The Dodge" (not the automobile). A typical Lenniesque diversion from having to acknowledge a comment which might embarrass him. Tsk. You should get a subscription to Psychology Today and fill yourself in on what "relationships" are. It is okay. This happens all over Netnews. Don't let it bother you too much. This is where Lennie gets most of his "education"...Periodicals that his wife subscribed to...Of course he'd have everyone here believe that it was HIS education that carried the day. Now this ia a bizarre conclusion. I do not condone violence against anyone. But you made no comment on his implied threats. Nor I to you on your's to Dan Jeswald. That's between you and Steve, and you and Dan. Making threats is bad and makes for bad karma. Why do you want to dictate the content of my postings? Want to be the moderator? No threats were made. (By me, anyway...) Of course Lennie's quick to want to be the victim, and to absolve himself of the fact that his antics and behaviour here invoke that kind of mischeviousness in others. Tsk. If you want to think someone who works Frenchmen out of band on 6m is "correct," then feel free... Thanks for the chuckle. I *really* didn't expect that! 8^) How many Frenchmen has Lennie worked? And did DAVE operate illegally? But, you've never been in the military, don't know what "live fire" is about (from weaponry, that is). I've served my country for a lot longer than you ever did. You are being very irrelevant now. Tsk. Another "hostile action" hero claiming what? :-) No hostile actions. Sounds very rank to me... and no rank. Lennie loves to berate othrs for "assuming", "rank and priviledge", and swears he does NOT berate others for thier services regardless. The above, of course, proves him to once again lying, but then hey, after the first 20 or 30, who could keep track? They've managed to create the Archaic Radiotelegraphy Society (ARS) that keeps trying to recapture the "pioneering days" of a past that existed before they were born. [they get very angry if one doesn't respect their meeting 1934 standards and practices in the year 2004] any more? The only one here, of course, who is trying to deamnd stagnation at any point is Lennie himself. His entire world pivots around 1950's era Japan and his "career" as a radio mechanic at ADA. None of us who have been licensed more than 3 years has any doubts about the changes that occur frequently in our Regulations. Leonard is AGAIN lying. Or even worse...fantasizing. I've had a full career in radio-electronics and am happy for the experience. [not to mention monetarily independent] Never once in a half century have I been required to learn or use morse code for any communications purpose...nor even have to obtain an amateur license in order to show "interest in radio." Hi hi. Oh good, we're going on another side trip. It is good to hear a success story. Hopefully you give thanks for every day that you don't have to use Morse code... 8^) Yes...the "side trips" are frequent and colorful for Lennie. Of course he screwed up by being so "detailed" in one of them...Gave me enough information to go to afriend of mine whoi was a career engineer at one of the places he (Lennie) "worked" at...The ensuing conversation was enlightening. Amateur radio is a hobby. It isn't a job, isn't a guild, isn't a union, isn't some sort of para-military "service" that is essential for national security. It is regulated by a federal agency which does not require a single agency staffer to have any amateur radio license. Hobbies are supposed to be fun. I don't see much "fun" in this particular wading pool...just a bunch of very angry PCTA calling names and demanding strict adherence to their particular brand of "fun." Tsk. The anger is there, and it is real. Perhaps there is some confusion as to just *who* is feeling the anger. There's no doubt about who's feeling the anger, Mike. It's not you or I. We're on thie air every day, enjoying the priviledges bestowed upon us by the FCC. Anderscum is a very bitter, angry and disappointed old man, and he's intent on taking his inadequacies out on Amateur Radio, for what ever reason he thinks we "owe" him that. He's just pitiful. 73 Steve, K4YZ |
Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:
Subject: Who peed in the pool From: Mike Coslo Date: 9/16/2004 6:49 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: Len Over 21 wrote: Tsk, tsk. You want a meeting with charts and graphs and an experienced presenter to show you examples of the infamous Double Standard?!?!? hmm, maybe. *Your answer* is what needs explaining. If I don't care about your mode, nor Steve's mode of expression, and you two are on opposite sides of the discussion, I need an explanation of why that means that I have a double standard. Tsk. Still need an "explanation?" Not a good reply, Coslo. Nor a good explanation. Lennie doesn't HAVE a "Double Standard" that he can use as an example, Mike. That's why he dodged answering your post. Nope, I took the summer off to rest a torn meniscus. Takes longer to heal as time marches on. Who filled in under your name in here "all summer?" What are you talking about? You'll have to forgive Lennie...If you posted even once in that time period, he assumes that you anxiously devoured each and ever word he wrote as if there were no other nourishment to be had. Or you may be smoking some "good stuff" that Bob Casey said I was... :-) nahh. nothing stronger than the occasional beer for me. 3.2 stuff? :-) You smoke beer? How is that done? :-) So. you deliberately misunderstand me to serve as the content of your replies? noted! 8^) Of course. "The Dodge" (not the automobile). A typical Lenniesque diversion from having to acknowledge a comment which might embarrass him. Tsk. You should get a subscription to Psychology Today and fill yourself in on what "relationships" are. It is okay. This happens all over Netnews. Don't let it bother you too much. This is where Lennie gets most of his "education"...Periodicals that his wife subscribed to...Of course he'd have everyone here believe that it was HIS education that carried the day. Now this ia a bizarre conclusion. I do not condone violence against anyone. But you made no comment on his implied threats. Nor I to you on your's to Dan Jeswald. That's between you and Steve, and you and Dan. Making threats is bad and makes for bad karma. Why do you want to dictate the content of my postings? Want to be the moderator? No threats were made. (By me, anyway...) Of course Lennie's quick to want to be the victim, and to absolve himself of the fact that his antics and behaviour here invoke that kind of mischeviousness in others. Tsk. If you want to think someone who works Frenchmen out of band on 6m is "correct," then feel free... Thanks for the chuckle. I *really* didn't expect that! 8^) How many Frenchmen has Lennie worked? And did DAVE operate illegally? But, you've never been in the military, don't know what "live fire" is about (from weaponry, that is). I've served my country for a lot longer than you ever did. You are being very irrelevant now. Tsk. Another "hostile action" hero claiming what? :-) No hostile actions. Sounds very rank to me... and no rank. Lennie loves to berate othrs for "assuming", "rank and priviledge", and swears he does NOT berate others for thier services regardless. The above, of course, proves him to once again lying, but then hey, after the first 20 or 30, who could keep track? They've managed to create the Archaic Radiotelegraphy Society (ARS) that keeps trying to recapture the "pioneering days" of a past that existed before they were born. [they get very angry if one doesn't respect their meeting 1934 standards and practices in the year 2004] any more? The only one here, of course, who is trying to deamnd stagnation at any point is Lennie himself. His entire world pivots around 1950's era Japan and his "career" as a radio mechanic at ADA. None of us who have been licensed more than 3 years has any doubts about the changes that occur frequently in our Regulations. Leonard is AGAIN lying. Or even worse...fantasizing. I've had a full career in radio-electronics and am happy for the experience. [not to mention monetarily independent] Never once in a half century have I been required to learn or use morse code for any communications purpose...nor even have to obtain an amateur license in order to show "interest in radio." Hi hi. Oh good, we're going on another side trip. It is good to hear a success story. Hopefully you give thanks for every day that you don't have to use Morse code... 8^) Yes...the "side trips" are frequent and colorful for Lennie. Of course he screwed up by being so "detailed" in one of them...Gave me enough information to go to afriend of mine whoi was a career engineer at one of the places he (Lennie) "worked" at...The ensuing conversation was enlightening. This may sound odd, Steve, but the side trips *are* really my favorite part of Lenover21's posts. That above sample wasn't all that good, but I always like to read or listen to old timers stories. I am very interested in radio history. As for the rest of the content..... sometimes okay, sometimes not... 8^) Amateur radio is a hobby. It isn't a job, isn't a guild, isn't a union, isn't some sort of para-military "service" that is essential for national security. It is regulated by a federal agency which does not require a single agency staffer to have any amateur radio license. Hobbies are supposed to be fun. I don't see much "fun" in this particular wading pool...just a bunch of very angry PCTA calling names and demanding strict adherence to their particular brand of "fun." Tsk. The anger is there, and it is real. Perhaps there is some confusion as to just *who* is feeling the anger. There's no doubt about who's feeling the anger, Mike. It's not you or I. We're on thie air every day, enjoying the priviledges bestowed upon us by the FCC. I believe so. I have always tried to keep the tone civil, and yet that seems to anger him. I have been known to point out when his reply to something makes no sense to me, but perhaps that is my own stupidity, no? Yet he is angry with me. Anderscum is a very bitter, angry and disappointed old man, and he's intent on taking his inadequacies out on Amateur Radio, for what ever reason he thinks we "owe" him that. He's just pitiful. It *is* sad. I think that Lenover21 has much to offer, and yet ends up alienating those that may be able to benefit by what he has to offer. But there is still time, and there is still hope. - Mike KB3EIA - |
N2EY wrote: In article , Dave Heil writes: Len Over 21 wrote: I'm not claiming "hostile action" experience in the military. :-) "Jeff, you've never been under Incoming, have you? While trying to get return artillery support on a radio while your ears, your whole body is numbed by HE infall on your position? Most folks in that position don't wet their pants...every sphincter tightens up, ears go deaf, eyes close tight, and every breath may be the last." --Len Anderson, 2000 :-) Oh yes, the classic "sphincter post". You shoulda posted the whole thing, Dave - it was classic how Len tore into Jeff/KH6O's recollection of experiences in big-time radio. (If running 500 kHz at NPM, handling all sorts of traffic, weather and SOS operations wasn't big-time radio, nothing was). Len's view is that no one else has ever handled high volume radio traffic; no one else has ever used high power equipment. There are some hams who can come near, some who can equal and some who can exceed his experience *and* who are radio amateurs as well. Some don't care for morse code. Some use it at times. Some use it quite often. Some use it exclusively. Well, you aren't *exactly* claiming it. You described the terror of being under incoming artillery without explaining that you'd never actually been under any. Perhaps you should have ended that now famous paragraph with "...or so I've been told". Come to think of it, that spiffy illustration sort of parallels your amateur radio experience, doesn't it? How many minutes flying time were you from death by Soviet Bears were you? You mean the plane which did not even enter service until Len was long gone from Japan? Yep, that one. That was another which should have ended with, "or so I've been told". Len don't know but he's been told Ten-Tec gear is made of gold If he tempts the Russian bear He'll have to change his underwear Dave K8MN |
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N2EY wrote: In article , Dave Heil writes: Len Over 21 wrote: I'm not claiming "hostile action" experience in the military. :-) "Jeff, you've never been under Incoming, have you? While trying to get return artillery support on a radio while your ears, your whole body is numbed by HE infall on your position? Most folks in that position don't wet their pants...every sphincter tightens up, ears go deaf, eyes close tight, and every breath may be the last." --Len Anderson, 2000 :-) Oh yes, the classic "sphincter post". You shoulda posted the whole thing, Dave - it was classic how Len tore into Jeff/KH6O's recollection of experiences in big-time radio. (If running 500 kHz at NPM, handling all sorts of traffic, weather and SOS operations wasn't big-time radio, nothing was). It should be mentioned that the NPM mentioned above was the Coast Guard (military) station in Hawaii, smack dab in the biggest ocean on Earth. Big-time squared. Of course the operation used Morse Code in a big way - and not in the 1930s, either, but about a half-century later. So of course Len had to denigrate and disrespect such operation. Len's view is that no one else has ever handled high volume radio traffic; no one else has ever used high power equipment. Naw, it's simpler than that: Len hates Morse Code, he hates most of ham radio, particularly the traditional parts, and wants to see it wiped out or transmogrified into something very different from what you and I think of as ham radio. There are some hams who can come near, some who can equal and some who can exceed his experience *and* who are radio amateurs as well. Some don't care for morse code. Some use it at times. Some use it quite often. Some use it exclusively. Of course. But that's not the point. Well, you aren't *exactly* claiming it. You described the terror of being under incoming artillery without explaining that you'd never actually been under any. Perhaps you should have ended that now famous paragraph with "...or so I've been told". Come to think of it, that spiffy illustration sort of parallels your amateur radio experience, doesn't it? How many minutes flying time were you from death by Soviet Bears were you? You mean the plane which did not even enter service until Len was long gone from Japan? Yep, that one. That was another which should have ended with, "or so I've been told". Not really. Nobody back then would have told him such stories. Len wrote that it was about 500 miles from air bases in North Korea and the USSR to where he was. Described it as about an hour flight time. Mentioned the "Bear" specifically, which the Rooskies know as the TU-95. What wasn't mentioned was that the distances are actually over 660 miles. Also unmentioned was that the Bear/TU-95 didn't enter production until 1956 and didn't enter service with the USSR's air force until 1957. All of this was pointed out in a post: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...&output=gplain which did not get a very nice reception from Len. Mr. Burke also chimed in, describing the source of the distances as "a gas station map" despite the fact that it was US Army issue, and used in combat over Japan. (7th Air Force, B-24 navigator's map - I have a few of them). Len don't know but he's been told Ten-Tec gear is made of gold If he tempts the Russian bear He'll have to change his underwear Doesn't matter if it's made by Ten Tec, Yaesu, Icom, Elecraft, or even Southgate Radio, if it's used for Morse Code operation on the ham bands, you can bet Len will make fun of it. So predictable. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:
Subject: Who peed in the pool From: Mike Coslo Date: 9/16/2004 6:49 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: Len Over 21 wrote: Tsk, tsk. You want a meeting with charts and graphs and an experienced presenter to show you examples of the infamous Double Standard?!?!? hmm, maybe. *Your answer* is what needs explaining. If I don't care about your mode, nor Steve's mode of expression, and you two are on opposite sides of the discussion, I need an explanation of why that means that I have a double standard. Tsk. Still need an "explanation?" Not a good reply, Coslo. Nor a good explanation. Lennie doesn't HAVE a "Double Standard" that he can use as an example, Mike. That's why he dodged answering your post. Nope, I took the summer off to rest a torn meniscus. Takes longer to heal as time marches on. Who filled in under your name in here "all summer?" What are you talking about? You'll have to forgive Lennie...If you posted even once in that time period, he assumes that you anxiously devoured each and ever word he wrote as if there were no other nourishment to be had. Or you may be smoking some "good stuff" that Bob Casey said I was... :-) nahh. nothing stronger than the occasional beer for me. 3.2 stuff? :-) You smoke beer? How is that done? :-) So. you deliberately misunderstand me to serve as the content of your replies? noted! 8^) Of course. "The Dodge" (not the automobile). A typical Lenniesque diversion from having to acknowledge a comment which might embarrass him. Tsk. You should get a subscription to Psychology Today and fill yourself in on what "relationships" are. It is okay. This happens all over Netnews. Don't let it bother you too much. This is where Lennie gets most of his "education"...Periodicals that his wife subscribed to...Of course he'd have everyone here believe that it was HIS education that carried the day. Here's the question Steve. I think I know the answer already, but let's check it out. As long as Lenover21 continues to post in his present style, I assume that you are happy to post in retort to him. Yes? I'm pretty convinced that even though there are times you find him exasperating, it doesn't upset you to make the posts? I also believe that for good or bad, you enjoy it to a certain extent. So you guys have a relationship. It's a pretty strange one, made easier by Netnews, but this sort of thing has existed for a long time. It's the old Winston Churchhill/Lady Astor thing. They traded barbs with each other, and I have to believe they enjoyed it. Why Lenover21 resists my suggestions that this is what is going on is beyond me. It is no insult, its just how things go sometimes. Now this ia a bizarre conclusion. I do not condone violence against anyone. But you made no comment on his implied threats. Nor I to you on your's to Dan Jeswald. That's between you and Steve, and you and Dan. Making threats is bad and makes for bad karma. Why do you want to dictate the content of my postings? Want to be the moderator? No threats were made. (By me, anyway...) Of course Lennie's quick to want to be the victim, and to absolve himself of the fact that his antics and behaviour here invoke that kind of mischeviousness in others. Tsk. If you want to think someone who works Frenchmen out of band on 6m is "correct," then feel free... Thanks for the chuckle. I *really* didn't expect that! 8^) How many Frenchmen has Lennie worked? And did DAVE operate illegally? But, you've never been in the military, don't know what "live fire" is about (from weaponry, that is). I've served my country for a lot longer than you ever did. You are being very irrelevant now. Tsk. Another "hostile action" hero claiming what? :-) No hostile actions. Sounds very rank to me... and no rank. Lennie loves to berate othrs for "assuming", "rank and priviledge", and swears he does NOT berate others for thier services regardless. I do not have now, and I never did have any military rank. That needs to be clear. But there are more ways than that of serving your country. The above, of course, proves him to once again lying, but then hey, after the first 20 or 30, who could keep track? They've managed to create the Archaic Radiotelegraphy Society (ARS) that keeps trying to recapture the "pioneering days" of a past that existed before they were born. [they get very angry if one doesn't respect their meeting 1934 standards and practices in the year 2004] any more? The only one here, of course, who is trying to deamnd stagnation at any point is Lennie himself. His entire world pivots around 1950's era Japan and his "career" as a radio mechanic at ADA. None of us who have been licensed more than 3 years has any doubts about the changes that occur frequently in our Regulations. Leonard is AGAIN lying. Or even worse...fantasizing. I've had a full career in radio-electronics and am happy for the experience. [not to mention monetarily independent] Never once in a half century have I been required to learn or use morse code for any communications purpose...nor even have to obtain an amateur license in order to show "interest in radio." Hi hi. Oh good, we're going on another side trip. It is good to hear a success story. Hopefully you give thanks for every day that you don't have to use Morse code... 8^) Yes...the "side trips" are frequent and colorful for Lennie. Of course he screwed up by being so "detailed" in one of them...Gave me enough information to go to afriend of mine whoi was a career engineer at one of the places he (Lennie) "worked" at...The ensuing conversation was enlightening. Amateur radio is a hobby. It isn't a job, isn't a guild, isn't a union, isn't some sort of para-military "service" that is essential for national security. It is regulated by a federal agency which does not require a single agency staffer to have any amateur radio license. Hobbies are supposed to be fun. I don't see much "fun" in this particular wading pool...just a bunch of very angry PCTA calling names and demanding strict adherence to their particular brand of "fun." Tsk. The anger is there, and it is real. Perhaps there is some confusion as to just *who* is feeling the anger. There's no doubt about who's feeling the anger, Mike. It's not you or I. We're on thie air every day, enjoying the priviledges bestowed upon us by the FCC. Anderscum is a very bitter, angry and disappointed old man, and he's intent on taking his inadequacies out on Amateur Radio, for what ever reason he thinks we "owe" him that. He's just pitiful. 73 Steve, K4YZ |
Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Mike Coslo writes: I believe so. I have always tried to keep the tone civil, and yet that seems to anger him. I have been known to point out when his reply to something makes no sense to me, but perhaps that is my own stupidity, no? Yet he is angry with me. "Anger?" None. hmmm. It is possible that you have been so angry for so long that you aren't aware of it any more. Coslo doesn't understand that "discussion" requires understanding that opposite opinions are neither "stupidity," "ignorance," or behavior equivalent to the Antichrist. Thank you for letting me know that. Now that I understand, we need to talk (cuz I think that is sort of like how you act once in a while). REspectfully speaking, of course. If Coslo wants love and admiration for his viewpoints, he ought ot seek out a private forum where all Think Alike, sharing the same opinions, whether or not those opinions were brainwashed into them or arrived at by group agreement. Nahh, I don't want that. That doesn't seem like much fun at all. Anderscum is a very bitter, angry and disappointed old man, and he's intent on taking his inadequacies out on Amateur Radio, for what ever reason he thinks we "owe" him that. He's just pitiful. heh heh heh heh The above is what Coslo condones as "rational discourse?" :-) Nahh, I don't condone it. I don't say it either. Are you sure you don't want to be a moderator? Yahoo groups can be set up that way. Of course it is. If said by a PCTA extra, it is most acceptible. If said by an NCTA, it would be subject to many an angry posting from all the PCTA in here (there's only a few, but they are aggressively hostile whether civil in manner or not). I think you really would like to be a moderator. You would be able to control how people reply to you. That is okay. Some people like that structured kind of group. It *is* sad. I think that Lenover21 has much to offer, and yet ends up alienating those that may be able to benefit by what he has to offer. Oh, my. How condescending can Coslo become? But it is still sad. Poor baby. Now that is a strange comment! Tsk. Consider the many years of morse propaganda under the "officialdom" of the "leadership" membership organization about amateur radio...and their faithful followers (a minority) with ten kinds of condescension of all who didn't love, honor, and obey morse code. Here we go again! I'd really prefer to hear a radio story instead of a Morse code one. THe Morse code thing is getting kind of dreary and old, don't you think? Did all those faithful followers, united in morsemanship, "have so much to offer?" I really do love hearing stories and experience from old timers. Of course they did. They said so. Even as we view the screen there are thousands of mighty macho morsemen waiting to come to the aid of their country, saving all through their wonderful skill at morse code! hmmm, In their dreams, of course. :-) Coslo makes a grandeloquent - but condescending - blabber on "having much to offer!" :-) Gee, if I hurt your feelings, I'm sorry. Has Coslo anything to "offer?" :-) Quite a bit, it would seem. What will Coslo return in compensation for being "offered" anything? I can bring cookies. Chocolate chip or Oatmeal raisin? His good will and appreciation? Acceptance into the group by a self-perceived chieftan descended from gods of amateur radio? I don't think that the American Indians believed their chieftains were descended from the gods of any sort. Of course I could be wrong, and if anyone wants to correct me, please do. Or is this one of those little jokes you do, like J-38 Keys on a flag from the Revolutionary war? That was a good one! 8^) Tsk. Coslo needs an olfactory exam. He (and others) have long been "peeing in the pool" and now they complain about the odor! Did you ever notice the awful smell sometimes after eating asparagus? So what do you think, is the urine smell imparted by asparagus due to methyl mercaptan alone, or S-methyl-thioacrylate and S-methyl-3-(methylthio)thiopropionate, or possibly a combination of methyl mercaptan, dimethyl sulphide, and small amounts of sulphur-oxidised compounds? And how would ya like to be the people that actually research that kind of stuff. Eeww 8^) - Mike KB3EIA - |
Subject: Who peed in the pool
From: Dave Heil Date: 9/17/2004 9:54 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: N2EY wrote: In article , Dave Heil writes: Len Over 21 wrote: I'm not claiming "hostile action" experience in the military. :-) "Jeff, you've never been under Incoming, have you? While trying to get return artillery support on a radio while your ears, your whole body is numbed by HE infall on your position? Most folks in that position don't wet their pants...every sphincter tightens up, ears go deaf, eyes close tight, and every breath may be the last." --Len Anderson, 2000 :-) Oh yes, the classic "sphincter post". You shoulda posted the whole thing, Dave - it was classic how Len tore into Jeff/KH6O's recollection of experiences in big-time radio. (If running 500 kHz at NPM, handling all sorts of traffic, weather and SOS operations wasn't big-time radio, nothing was). Len's view is that no one else has ever handled high volume radio traffic; no one else has ever used high power equipment. There are some hams who can come near, some who can equal and some who can exceed his experience *and* who are radio amateurs as well. Some don't care for morse code. Some use it at times. Some use it quite often. Some use it exclusively. Well, you aren't *exactly* claiming it. You described the terror of being under incoming artillery without explaining that you'd never actually been under any. Perhaps you should have ended that now famous paragraph with "...or so I've been told". Come to think of it, that spiffy illustration sort of parallels your amateur radio experience, doesn't it? How many minutes flying time were you from death by Soviet Bears were you? You mean the plane which did not even enter service until Len was long gone from Japan? Yep, that one. That was another which should have ended with, "or so I've been told". Lennie's whole life is a series of "so I've been tolds"... Len don't know but he's been told Ten-Tec gear is made of gold If he tempts the Russian bear He'll have to change his underwear Wonder how Sir Creepieness will try to worm his way out from under yet more embarrassments uttered from his own keyboard and truned against him...?!?! Nice job, guys. 73 Steve, K4YZ |
Subject: Who peed in the pool
From: Mike Coslo Date: 9/17/2004 8:32 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote: Subject: Who peed in the pool Anderscum is a very bitter, angry and disappointed old man, and he's intent on taking his inadequacies out on Amateur Radio, for what ever reason he thinks we "owe" him that. He's just pitiful. It *is* sad. I think that Lenover21 has much to offer, and yet ends up alienating those that may be able to benefit by what he has to offer. But there is still time, and there is still hope. I used to think so, Mike... At one time, I just thought Lennie was playing "Devil's Advocate". Nope. He's just a creep. When someone uses CBers as the example against what we should NOT want in Amateur Radio, I just redirect them to some of Lennie's posts and say "See, it CAN be a lot worse!" 73 Steve, K4YZ |
Subject: Who peed in the pool
From: Mike Coslo Date: 9/17/2004 8:39 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , Mike Coslo writes: I believe so. I have always tried to keep the tone civil, and yet that seems to anger him. I have been known to point out when his reply to something makes no sense to me, but perhaps that is my own stupidity, no? Yet he is angry with me. "Anger?" None. hmmm. It is possible that you have been so angry for so long that you aren't aware of it any more. Coslo doesn't understand that "discussion" requires understanding that opposite opinions are neither "stupidity," "ignorance," or behavior equivalent to the Antichrist. Thank you for letting me know that. Now that I understand, we need to talk (cuz I think that is sort of like how you act once in a while). REspectfully speaking, of course. If Coslo wants love and admiration for his viewpoints, he ought ot seek out a private forum where all Think Alike, sharing the same opinions, whether or not those opinions were brainwashed into them or arrived at by group agreement. Nahh, I don't want that. That doesn't seem like much fun at all. Anderscum is a very bitter, angry and disappointed old man, and he's intent on taking his inadequacies out on Amateur Radio, for what ever reason he thinks we "owe" him that. He's just pitiful. heh heh heh heh The above is what Coslo condones as "rational discourse?" :-) Nahh, I don't condone it. I don't say it either. Are you sure you don't want to be a moderator? Yahoo groups can be set up that way. Of course it is. If said by a PCTA extra, it is most acceptible. If said by an NCTA, it would be subject to many an angry posting from all the PCTA in here (there's only a few, but they are aggressively hostile whether civil in manner or not). I think you really would like to be a moderator. You would be able to control how people reply to you. That is okay. Some people like that structured kind of group. It *is* sad. I think that Lenover21 has much to offer, and yet ends up alienating those that may be able to benefit by what he has to offer. Oh, my. How condescending can Coslo become? But it is still sad. Poor baby. Now that is a strange comment! Tsk. Consider the many years of morse propaganda under the "officialdom" of the "leadership" membership organization about amateur radio...and their faithful followers (a minority) with ten kinds of condescension of all who didn't love, honor, and obey morse code. Here we go again! I'd really prefer to hear a radio story instead of a Morse code one. THe Morse code thing is getting kind of dreary and old, don't you think? Did all those faithful followers, united in morsemanship, "have so much to offer?" I really do love hearing stories and experience from old timers. Of course they did. They said so. Even as we view the screen there are thousands of mighty macho morsemen waiting to come to the aid of their country, saving all through their wonderful skill at morse code! hmmm, In their dreams, of course. :-) Coslo makes a grandeloquent - but condescending - blabber on "having much to offer!" :-) Gee, if I hurt your feelings, I'm sorry. Has Coslo anything to "offer?" :-) Quite a bit, it would seem. What will Coslo return in compensation for being "offered" anything? I can bring cookies. Chocolate chip or Oatmeal raisin? His good will and appreciation? Acceptance into the group by a self-perceived chieftan descended from gods of amateur radio? I don't think that the American Indians believed their chieftains were descended from the gods of any sort. Of course I could be wrong, and if anyone wants to correct me, please do. Or is this one of those little jokes you do, like J-38 Keys on a flag from the Revolutionary war? That was a good one! 8^) Tsk. Coslo needs an olfactory exam. He (and others) have long been "peeing in the pool" and now they complain about the odor! Did you ever notice the awful smell sometimes after eating asparagus? So what do you think, is the urine smell imparted by asparagus due to methyl mercaptan alone, or S-methyl-thioacrylate and S-methyl-3-(methylthio)thiopropionate, or possibly a combination of methyl mercaptan, dimethyl sulphide, and small amounts of sulphur-oxidised compounds? And how would ya like to be the people that actually research that kind of stuff. Eeww 8^) - Mike KB3EIA - |
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