In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: US Licensing Restructuring ??? When ???
From: PAMNO (N2EY)
Date: 10/2/2004 8:55 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Brian Kelly) wrote in message
.com...
PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message news:
...

Or, on the cheap side of the coin, "recycled" parts using mainly
technology that is 50 to 40 years old (K4YZ homepage).

What fault do you find with that and why doesn't any of it appear of
K4YZ's homepage?

Len is confused. He cannot deal with the fact that K4YZ and N2EY are not the
same person.

There's a whole lot that he is confused about.

For example, he keeps trying to confuse Amateur Radio with PLMRS, GMRS,
Armed Forces Communications, CB, etc etc etc.

I think Len would be very happy if Amateur Radio became just like cb.

Nothing in the Southgate Type 7 is "cheap". The parts used were very
inexpensive, but of high quality.

Geez,
absolutely zilch time spent in trying to make any of it attractive.

Wrong again!

A lot of time and effort were spent making it attractive to the intended
market. No time or effort was spent making it attractive to Len.

Of course...the Supreme Engineer forgot that the purpose of the project
was to provide a functional device.

Ya missed the point.

"Attractiveness" is in the eye of the beholder. Look at how clothing designs
have changed over the years.

I find that most of the "modern ready-built" radio sets are very unattractive.
Cluttered front panels, poor color choices, knobs and displays way too small
and too close together, etc., etc. So I purposely avoid such design in my
projects. If the set is a little bigger because of it - so what?

Jim's radio did just that.

And much more.

Mission accomplished.

Not the stuff of "marketable design!"

That'd be a real problem if it was built to be a marketable design.

The intended market thinks it's an excellent design and of high quality
manufacture.

We forget Lennie's only reason for being a "radio
professional"...profit.

Nothing wrong with that!

WE do what we do for FUN!

Also service to our country.

Lennie's NOT a "fun" person.

I'm sure some people think he's fun.

Collins Radios, back when tubes were king, were REAL boat-
anchors...and performed very well although their specifications
were not great in sensitivity nor in IMD.

Lab tests prove differently - particularly for a meatball 75S3C. See the
Sherwood Engineering receiver comparison chart.

What amateur radio HF receivers, transmitters and/or transceivers has Len
designed and built on his own time, with his own resources?

Where is Len's home page?

The whole world wonders....

Lennie once HAD an AOL page...No pictures or even a remote mention of
radios, but he did make allusion to fantasizing about being the old man that
Ruth Buzzy (the comedienne) used to pelt with her purse on the park bench on
the old :Laugh In" series.

I missed that...

Some imagination, eh? Musta be reeeeeeeeal proud of that "radio
professional" background.

Whatever

73 de Jim, N2EY

Subject: US Licensing Restructuring ??? When ???
From: PAMNO (N2EY)
Date: 10/3/2004 9:11 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(Steve

For example, he keeps trying to confuse Amateur Radio with PLMRS, GMRS,
Armed Forces Communications, CB, etc etc etc.

I think Len would be very happy if Amateur Radio became just like cb.

We forget Lennie's only reason for being a "radio
professional"...profit.

Nothing wrong with that!

There is when you try to force square pegs into round holes.

Lennie has that very hammer in his hands, determined to make the wrong
pegs fit for the wrong reasons.

WE do what we do for FUN!

Also service to our country.

Yep...Of course now that you alluded to "service" and Amateur Radio in the
same sentence, His High Holiness of Radio will launch into yet another analogy
between us and the Nazi Party.

Lennie's NOT a "fun" person.

I'm sure some people think he's fun.

The Marque deSade...?!?!

Lennie once HAD an AOL page...No pictures or even a remote mention of
radios, but he did make allusion to fantasizing about being the old man that
Ruth Buzzy (the comedienne) used to pelt with her purse on the park bench on
the old :Laugh In" series.

I missed that...

You didn't miss much. Lennie had made a point of making fun of some thing
I had on my AOL profile, so naturally I checked his. I had to wonder WHAT in
the WORLD this Bozo was talking about!

Oh...and BTW...it wasn't a "page"...My bust...It was just an AOL profile.

Some imagination, eh? Musta be reeeeeeeeal proud of that "radio
professional" background.

Whatever

"Whatever", indeed.

73

Steve, K4YZ

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Lennie once HAD an AOL page...No pictures or even a remote mention of
radios, but he did make allusion to fantasizing about being the old man that
Ruth Buzzy (the comedienne) used to pelt with her purse on the park bench on
the old :Laugh In" series.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. WRONG. INCORRECT. ERROR.

Nursie is relapsing into his fantasyland behavior.

Never had an AOL "homepage." Don't need one. I have a nice home.

Some imagination, eh? Musta be reeeeeeeeal proud of that "radio
professional" background.

Just proud and satisfied. I have one. Nursie doesn't. Tsk.

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

Kellie is going to name- and number-drop (once he refreshes his
memory on old advertisements) that HIS gear is "the best" and
"superior" and anything that an NCTA has is "crap." HIS
"engineering examples" all involve machinery things, never
electronic stuff. Must be difficult for those who "sit at captain's
tables" to regress and crack open a theory book, huh?

How about just being a good appliance OP and opening an operations
manual or TO? He can't even get the power supply voltage correct.
Wonder how many radios he's fried over the years?

"Stir-fry" as the napalm unloaders were wont to call it... :-)

We can't complain about that because the PCTA are royalty
and thus above reproach...but I complain anyway since I know
that electrons, fields, and waves don't much give a snit which
radio service it is or how the modulation is made. Can't
convince the PCTA of that. Color them inviolate.



Done.

Ooops! Here comes the flying bricks.

Incoming! Incoming! :-)

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: US Licensing Restructuring ??? When ???
From: PAMNO (N2EY)
Date: 10/3/2004 9:11 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(Steve

For example, he keeps trying to confuse Amateur Radio with PLMRS, GMRS,
Armed Forces Communications, CB, etc etc etc.

I think Len would be very happy if Amateur Radio became just like cb.

We forget Lennie's only reason for being a "radio
professional"...profit.

Nothing wrong with that!

There is when you try to force square pegs into round holes.

This newsgrope is full of square pegs. Those are also called
"PCTA extras." :-)

Lennie has that very hammer in his hands, determined to make the wrong
pegs fit for the wrong reasons.

Tsk, tsk. I have three hammers, one a very heavy-duty type, but
need none of them in here. An ounce of pressure off the end of
my finger tips is enough to cause most PCTA extras to go berserk.
Such as yourself. :-)

WE do what we do for FUN!

Also service to our country.

Yep...Of course now that you alluded to "service" and Amateur Radio in
the
same sentence, His High Holiness of Radio will launch into yet another analogy
between us and the Nazi Party.

BWAAHAHAHAHAHHHHAAAAAWHOOOOOHOOOHOOO...!!!!!

"Service to the country!!!!" For engaging in a part-time HOBBY!

Tsk. Delusional nursie, off on another bender. No degree needed
to see the irrationality of delusion.

Lennie's NOT a "fun" person.

I'm sure some people think he's fun.

The Marque deSade...?!?!

Coming from Sader and Masoch, that's a typical comment...even if
"marquis" is spelled wrong.

Poor nursie, nuts to the core, an all-year celebratory fruitcake
eating himself delusional on high-calorie irrationality.

Make that "call," nursie, have YOURSELF committed. Do a REAL
service for your country.

Lennie once HAD an AOL page...No pictures or even a remote mention of
radios, but he did make allusion to fantasizing about being the old man
that
Ruth Buzzy (the comedienne) used to pelt with her purse on the park bench
on
the old :Laugh In" series.

I missed that...

You didn't miss much. Lennie had made a point of making fun of some
thing
I had on my AOL profile, so naturally I checked his. I had to wonder WHAT in
the WORLD this Bozo was talking about!

Oh...and BTW...it wasn't a "page"...My bust...It was just an AOL profile.

There was NEVER any such "page."

That's another example of nursie's emotinal instability...trying to shoot
off his keyboard without any ammo loaded. No wonder the USMC
didn't want him anymore...

Some imagination, eh? Musta be reeeeeeeeal proud of that "radio
professional" background.

Whatever

"Whatever", indeed.

I had, and continue to have, a long, good career in radio-electronics.
For over half a century.

Nursie hasn't. Tsk.

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...

There's a whole lot that he is confused about.

For example, he keeps trying to confuse Amateur Radio with PLMRS,
GMRS,
Armed Forces Communications, CB, etc etc etc.

He's confused?

"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!"

Hi, hi!

In that case the Department of Defense (before Donny R.) is also
"confused." :-)

Nursieworld requires that all radio amateurs be "qualified" by
having a "healthcare professional" license and be members of
the Civil Air Patrol. :-)

It's still possible that nursie is suffering from Post-Traumatic
Stress Disorder as a result of those "seven hostile actions."
Tsk.

In article , PAMNO
(N2EY) writes:

In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: US Licensing Restructuring ??? When ???
From: PAMNO (N2EY)
Date: 10/2/2004 8:55 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article , Dave Heil

writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Brian Kelly) wrote in message
.com...
PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message news:
...

Or, on the cheap side of the coin, "recycled" parts using mainly
technology that is 50 to 40 years old (K4YZ homepage).

What fault do you find with that and why doesn't any of it appear of
K4YZ's homepage?

Len is confused. He cannot deal with the fact that K4YZ and N2EY are not
the
same person.

There's a whole lot that he is confused about.

For example, he keeps trying to confuse Amateur Radio with PLMRS, GMRS,
Armed Forces Communications, CB, etc etc etc.

I think Len would be very happy if Amateur Radio became just like cb.

Nothing in the Southgate Type 7 is "cheap". The parts used were very
inexpensive, but of high quality.

Geez,
absolutely zilch time spent in trying to make any of it attractive.

Wrong again!

A lot of time and effort were spent making it attractive to the intended
market. No time or effort was spent making it attractive to Len.

Of course...the Supreme Engineer forgot that the purpose of the project
was to provide a functional device.

Ya missed the point.

"Attractiveness" is in the eye of the beholder. Look at how clothing designs
have changed over the years.

Tsk. Kluges are still kluges.

You should call it "modern radio art" and thereby rationalize that
you are "advancing the state of the radio art!" :-)

Riiiiiight...by making "modern" radio designs using tubes in the
1990s...:-)

I find that most of the "modern ready-built" radio sets are very unattractive.

...just like all the other radio amateurs? :-)

Why are the designer-manufacturers continuing (after years of doing
so) to design such "unattractive" exteriors? Is it all a conspiracy
against the superior esthetic sense of Jimmie?

Cluttered front panels, poor color choices, knobs and displays way too small
and too close together, etc., etc. So I purposely avoid such design in my
projects. If the set is a little bigger because of it - so what?

Kluges are still kluges. :-)

Decals for radio markings have been around for a half century...are
clearer to read that scribbled felt-tip marker pen markings. But, if
those are "beauty" to you, feel free to enjoy it. Try NOT to impose
your "standards of beauty" (radio-wise) on others.

Jim's radio did just that.

And much more.

Kluges are still kluges.

Mission accomplished.

Not the stuff of "marketable design!"

That'd be a real problem if it was built to be a marketable design.

The intended market thinks it's an excellent design and of high quality
manufacture.

We forget Lennie's only reason for being a "radio
professional"...profit.

Nothing wrong with that!

"Nothing wrong?" Tsk. That's a hypocritical statement in here!

WE do what we do for FUN!

Also service to our country.

BWAHAHAHAHAAHHHAAAAA....!!!!

Engaging in a part-time HOBBY is a "service to the country?"

Jimmie must have a Visa to be a tourist in nursieworld.


Lennie once HAD an AOL page...No pictures or even a remote mention of
radios, but he did make allusion to fantasizing about being the old man that
Ruth Buzzy (the comedienne) used to pelt with her purse on the park bench on
the old :Laugh In" series.

I missed that...

It was easy to "miss." It never existed. :-)

Nursie went off the deep end without his little water wings again.

Tsk. You name-callers ought to look in MSN. :-)


Some imagination, eh? Musta be reeeeeeeeal proud of that "radio
professional" background.

Whatever

I am very pleased with my career choice...interesting, challenging
work doing many things over the last half century in radio and
electronics. Am still involved, though not in "regular hours." :-)

Do you need a resume? A little precis of my places of employment?
I've given that in here before...but that only caused nursie to go off
into some strange orbit and get very angry. I realize that it is a
"felonious" act to irritate another PCTA extra in here so I don't
volunteer such information except on request. We can't irritate the
ultra-thin-skinned mighty macho morsemen in this newsgrope. :-)

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: US Licensing Restructuring ??? When ???
From: PAMNO (N2EY)
Date: 10/3/2004 9:11 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(Steve

For example, he keeps trying to confuse Amateur Radio with PLMRS, GMRS,
Armed Forces Communications, CB, etc etc etc.

I think Len would be very happy if Amateur Radio became just like cb.

We forget Lennie's only reason for being a "radio
professional"...profit.

Nothing wrong with that!

There is when you try to force square pegs into round holes.

Lennie has that very hammer in his hands, determined to make the wrong
pegs fit for the wrong reasons.

Hmmmm. That would be like saying that MARS is Amateur Radio.

Wrong Service, Wrong Frequencies, Wrong Purpose!

Hi, hi!

Best of Luck

(Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com...
Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Yep, 35 years later they've got Collins. Keepin' up with the times.

That's right, "William", I've got a modified 75A-3 which is about 51
years old, a 51S-1 which was produced in the late seventies and a
KWM-2A

NICE collection!

which was built about the same time as Len's Icom R-70 receiver.
I have an Orion which was produced last year.

How do you like using the Orion?

No rig is perfect. The Orion is very, very close.

I stopped by Ten-Tec last year and looked at it, didn't buy it.

They still make 'em.

But David they don't come with antennas and somebody who knows how to
install antennas so that's the end of Silly Willy Beeper's Ten-tec
dream machine.

Kelly, I never have had an HF radio that came with an antenna.
Perhaps your do. Yet I managed to build my own cubical quad on HF,
dipoles, off-center fed dipoles, and EDZ's for 10 and 6, a hustler
vertical for 40, etc, etc, etc.

But in this particular location, I have very precise requirements and
your one size fits all suggestion just wasn't what I wanted. Thank
you for your suggestion, but don't force it on me. Reminds me of the
time you told me to bend over. Thanks, but No thanks. Some kind of
weird elmering going on where you're from.

I also have other functional ham gear from the twenties, thirties,
forties, fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties and nineties. I'm
keeping up with the times--ALL of 'em.

Nothing earlier?

To have anything earlier, I'd have to find something earlier. All I
have is a piece of something earlier. My late friend W4JBP first became
a ham in 1912 on the family farm near Indianapolis. John gave me the
spark coil from an old Reo truck. It was the basis for his very first
rig. It is coated in pitch and mounted in a small dovetailed wooden
box.

Yeeee-haw! One of those was my very first "transmitter"!

In seventh or eighth grade I found a big thick dusty 1920s compilation
of DIY projects which had appeared earlier in Popular Mechanics in the
jr. high library. What there was of it. 1950 timeframe. Lotta radio
projects and I built a couple crystal sets from the articles. None of
this 1N34 nonsense, go find a chunk of Galena then go find a hot spot
on it with a home-brewed cat whisker . . worked.

There was an article on building a spark TX based on a Model T Ford
spark coil which is obviously the same critter Reo used. I went spark
coil hunting and bought mine from J.C. Whitney which stocked heaps of
Model T parts and diddled with it. My Lionel train transformer did a
good job as it's "power supply".

I wrapped a dozen or so turns of wire around the wooden box to serve
as the "secondary" of the spark coil and grounded one end of it to a
copper water pipe in the rafters. Then I strung up some wire from the
"output" end of the secondary fom my cellar "laboratory" to an apple
tree out back. Connected a J-38 between the Lionel xfmr output and the
spark coil primary and was set to hit the airwaves.

I needed somebody to listen for me and after several days of getting
patted on my noggin and being written off as a nutcase I managed to
finally recruit George Barnum who lived a block and a half away to
listen for me. His older brother had a radio and TV repair shop so
George sorta understood what I was up to. He heard me *good* when I
fired the thing up on sked.

What was you callsign then?

Or were you bootlegging as you've previously reported?

The problem was that I really screwed up by arranging the sked when
every houswife in town was listening to the Don McNeil Breakfast Club
Hour while they were doing their ironing.

Actually, you're biggest screwup was operating w/o a license.

I completely obliterated the
AM b'cast band for blocks around, the phone rang off the hook and Mom
not only terminated my Grand Experiment but almost terminated me too.
Again.

. . . growing up is such a bitch . .

Maybe that's why you've done so little of it over the years.

Dave K8MN

w3rv

bb

"William" wrote


Hi, hi!


OGosh(awara)!William should go on DX-pedition to Ha-Ha-Jima, be
honolable N0IMD/JD1!