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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: US Licensing Restructuring ??? When ??? From: (William) Date: 10/4/2004 5:15 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... Subject: US Licensing Restructuring ??? When ??? From: (William) Date: 10/3/2004 2:54 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... Subject: US Licensing Restructuring ??? When ??? From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 10/3/2004 9:11 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve For example, he keeps trying to confuse Amateur Radio with PLMRS, GMRS, Armed Forces Communications, CB, etc etc etc. I think Len would be very happy if Amateur Radio became just like cb. We forget Lennie's only reason for being a "radio professional"...profit. Nothing wrong with that! There is when you try to force square pegs into round holes. Lennie has that very hammer in his hands, determined to make the wrong pegs fit for the wrong reasons. Hmmmm. That would be like saying that MARS is Amateur Radio. Wrong Service, Wrong Frequencies, Wrong Purpose! Same spirit and intent, predominantly run by Amateurs. Predominantly? How about entirely owned by DoD? "Owned" and "run by" are NOT the same, Your Lameness. OK, lemme see. The USAF MARS Director is a DoD employee. The USN/MC MARS Director is a DoD employee. The USA MARS Director is a DoD employee. Gosh, I wonder who's running MARS? No Amateur Radio = No MARS. Please tell me about third party agreements in MARS. YOU tell ME what 3rd Party agreements have to do with any of this...?!?! Amateur Radio has third party agreements. "MARS IS Amateur Radio .... MARS has third party agreements. So what are they? Hi, hi! Best of Luck No luck needed. You're still quoting out of context and laughing about it. The problem is you're the only one laughing. That in and of itself should be a red flag to you, but you're not paying attention. You lied. Dismissed. No, I've not. You have. MARS is not Amateur Radio. |
Subject: US Licensing Restructuring ??? When ???
From: (William) Date: 10/4/2004 9:41 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... Subject: US Licensing Restructuring ??? When ??? From: (William) Date: 10/4/2004 5:15 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... Subject: US Licensing Restructuring ??? When ??? From: (William) Date: 10/3/2004 2:54 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... Subject: US Licensing Restructuring ??? When ??? From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 10/3/2004 9:11 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve For example, he keeps trying to confuse Amateur Radio with PLMRS, GMRS, Armed Forces Communications, CB, etc etc etc. I think Len would be very happy if Amateur Radio became just like cb. We forget Lennie's only reason for being a "radio professional"...profit. Nothing wrong with that! There is when you try to force square pegs into round holes. Lennie has that very hammer in his hands, determined to make the wrong pegs fit for the wrong reasons. Hmmmm. That would be like saying that MARS is Amateur Radio. Wrong Service, Wrong Frequencies, Wrong Purpose! Same spirit and intent, predominantly run by Amateurs. Predominantly? How about entirely owned by DoD? "Owned" and "run by" are NOT the same, Your Lameness. OK, lemme see. The USAF MARS Director is a DoD employee. The USN/MC MARS Director is a DoD employee. The USA MARS Director is a DoD employee. Gosh, I wonder who's running MARS? All of the civilians who happen to have Amateur Radio licenses, that without, would not be allowed to participate in the program. No Amateur Radio = No MARS. Please tell me about third party agreements in MARS. YOU tell ME what 3rd Party agreements have to do with any of this...?!?! Amateur Radio has third party agreements. "MARS IS Amateur Radio ... MARS has third party agreements. So what are they? You tell me, Brain. You've still not made a connection. You ARE still quoting out of context. Hi, hi! Best of Luck No luck needed. You're still quoting out of context and laughing about it. The problem is you're the only one laughing. That in and of itself should be a red flag to you, but you're not paying attention. You lied. Dismissed. No, I've not. You have. MARS is not Amateur Radio. Quoted out of context again. Same one-liner dodge from answering any questions about your own failed misdeeds in Newsgroup Adventuring. Same putz. Steve, K4YZ |
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , PAMNO (N2EY) writes: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: US Licensing Restructuring ??? When ??? From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 10/2/2004 8:55 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , Dave Heil writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , (William) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (William) writes: (Brian Kelly) wrote in message .com... PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message news: ... Or, on the cheap side of the coin, "recycled" parts using mainly technology that is 50 to 40 years old (K4YZ homepage). What fault do you find with that and why doesn't any of it appear of K4YZ's homepage? Len is confused. He cannot deal with the fact that K4YZ and N2EY are not the same person. There's a whole lot that he is confused about. For example, he keeps trying to confuse Amateur Radio with PLMRS, GMRS, Armed Forces Communications, CB, etc etc etc. I think Len would be very happy if Amateur Radio became just like cb. Nothing in the Southgate Type 7 is "cheap". The parts used were very inexpensive, but of high quality. Geez, absolutely zilch time spent in trying to make any of it attractive. Wrong again! A lot of time and effort were spent making it attractive to the intended market. No time or effort was spent making it attractive to Len. Of course...the Supreme Engineer forgot that the purpose of the project was to provide a functional device. Ya missed the point. "Attractiveness" is in the eye of the beholder. Look at how clothing designs have changed over the years. Tsk. Kluges are still kluges. I don't know of any clothing styles called "kluges". You should call it "modern radio art" and thereby rationalize that you are "advancing the state of the radio art!" :-) Is that an order? Riiiiiight...by making "modern" radio designs using tubes in the 1990s...:-) Electro-politically incorrect to you, I suppose... I find that most of the "modern ready-built" radio sets are very unattractive. ...just like all the other radio amateurs? :-) I find some other radio amateurs unattractive too. Most I find to be nice people. Why are the designer-manufacturers continuing (after years of doing so) to design such "unattractive" exteriors? One reason is that it's cheaper for them to do so. Another is that, as in fashion, conventional marketing wisdom says that things have to change in order to sell more product. Is it all a conspiracy against the superior esthetic sense of Jimmie? You can't be talking about me, because I don't claim any "superior esthetic sense". What I do have is "independent thought" about what's attractive and not attractive. I find that most of the "modern ready-built" radio sets are very unattractive. If that's unacceptable to you, tough. Cluttered front panels, poor color choices, knobs and displays way too small and too close together, etc., etc. So I purposely avoid such design in my projects. If the set is a little bigger because of it - so what? Kluges are still kluges. :-) Back to talking about clothing again? Decals for radio markings have been around for a half century... So what? I don't think the use of decals would make the Type 7 attractive to you. are clearer to read that scribbled felt-tip marker pen markings. There are no such markings on the Type 7. But, if those are "beauty" to you, feel free to enjoy it. I don't need your permission, Len. Try NOT to impose your "standards of beauty" (radio-wise) on others. I don't. It is *you* who try to impose your standards of "attractiveness" on others. Yet we are yet to see any examples of *your* homebrew HF radio projects, made in your own shop with only your own resources. DOS tip, Len: AOL gives you a free home page with each screen name. You can have up to seven! Plus they provide easy-to-use software to help you set them up. Even I managed to get two of them done in a short time. (Yes, there's another...) So *show us* what *you* could do in the home workshop, using only your own resources. -- About the Type 7: Had I used "decals" on the Type 7, you'd complain that they were glossy and hard to read, plus easy to rub or wash off. Had I used tape labels, you'd complain that they looked "primitive" Had I used engraved nameplates, you'd complain that they looked old and like an afterthought. Had I silkscreened the front panel, you'd complain that it wasn't engraved. Had I engraved the front panel, you'd complain about the color choice. Or similar stuff. Jim's radio did just that. And much more. Mission accomplished. Not the stuff of "marketable design!" That'd be a real problem if it was built to be a marketable design. The intended market thinks it's an excellent design and of high quality manufacture. It seems that the real issue is that it bugs Len no end that someone he considers an inferior (me) can do something he can't. Not just building a rig, but being able to use it on the air. Not just from a license/legal perspective, but from a practical operating skills perspective. We forget Lennie's only reason for being a "radio professional"...profit. Nothing wrong with that! "Nothing wrong?" No, there isn't. Tsk. That's a hypocritical statement in here! How? By whom? WE do what we do for FUN! Also service to our country. BWAHAHAHAHAAHHHAAAAA....!!!! Engaging in a part-time HOBBY is a "service to the country?" Sure. Do you think that amateur radio operators do not perform any service to our country? Jimmie must have a Visa to be a tourist in nursieworld. Lennie once HAD an AOL page...No pictures or even a remote mention of radios, but he did make allusion to fantasizing about being the old man that Ruth Buzzy (the comedienne) used to pelt with her purse on the park bench on the old :Laugh In" series. I missed that... It was easy to "miss." It never existed. :-) Nursie went off the deep end without his little water wings again. Tsk. You name-callers ought to look in MSN. :-) I see you calling people names and Steve calling you names. I don't call people names, Len. Some imagination, eh? Musta be reeeeeeeeal proud of that "radio professional" background. Whatever I am very pleased with my career choice...interesting, challenging work doing many things over the last half century in radio and electronics. Am still involved, though not in "regular hours." :-) That's nice. Also irrelevant to amateur radio policy. Do you need a resume? A little precis of my places of employment? No, you've told us many, many times.... I've given that in here before...but that only caused nursie to go off into some strange orbit and get very angry. That never stops you from posting anything.... |
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
......ought to look in MSN. :-) You mean this?: http://www.lanierbb.com/inns/bb25919.html Note the location ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) |
(William) wrote in message . com...
(Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com... Kelly, I never have had an HF radio that came with an antenna. Perhaps your do. Yet I managed to build my own cubical quad on HF, dipoles, off-center fed dipoles, and EDZ's for 10 and 6, a hustler vertical for 40, etc, etc, etc. But in this particular location, I have very precise requirements and your one size fits all suggestion just wasn't what I wanted. You could have come out with this years ago but no, it just wouldn't have been "you". Thank you for your suggestion, but don't force it on me. Reminds me of the time you told me to bend over. Thanks, but No thanks. Some kind of weird elmering going on where you're from. Depends 100% on the elmeree. In your case . . . . . . George Barnum who lived a block and a half away to listen for me. His older brother had a radio and TV repair shop so George sorta understood what I was up to. He heard me *good* when I fired the thing up on sked. What was you callsign then? "CBK". Or were you bootlegging as you've previously reported? Cite the post(s) please. The problem was that I really screwed up by arranging the sked when every houswife in town was listening to the Don McNeil Breakfast Club Hour while they were doing their ironing. Actually, you're biggest screwup was operating w/o a license. I had no idea what an FCC was, kids do goofy stuff like that and I did more than my share. But I did get on the air under my own steam with nothing more than guidance from an article in an old book and with no help from anybody. A Riley of those days woulda enjoyed it then he woulda "explained a few things". But Mom got there before he did and she didn't "explain" NOTHIN' . . . |
Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Brian Kelly wrote: That's right, "William", I've got a modified 75A-3 which is about 51 years old, a 51S-1 which was produced in the late seventies and a KWM-2A NICE collection! ...and I saw a fairly priced 75A-4 at the Washington, PA hamfest this morning. I resisted. Woo-woo! Nice piece. What are they going for these days? Ya hafta resist or ya go nuts. I've sworn to myself not to clutter this place up with any boat anchors. None. Zero tolerance for boat anchors around here. But then I spot the R4B and the 75S-3B again and remember all the goodies I worked and all the fun I had with them and start to crumble. I need a Boat Anchors Anonymous chapter to help me deal with it but alas, no such thing . . . No rig is perfect. The Orion is very, very close. I stopped by Ten-Tec last year and looked at it, didn't buy it. They still make 'em. But David they don't come with antennas and somebody who knows how to install antennas so that's the end of Silly Willy Beeper's Ten-tec dream machine. Ahhh! They have a "William" variant. The Orion is available with a built-in antenna tuner. I didn't get that model. Unless it can impedance-match his TV rabbit ears it wouldn't do much for him. Maybe when he wises up and moves . . . . . . I completely obliterated the AM b'cast band for blocks around, the phone rang off the hook and Mom not only terminated my Grand Experiment but almost terminated me too. Again. You actually disrupted the march around the breakfast table? Yeah, how stupid was that? My pre-ham radio days were from Hinton, West Virginia with an old doorbell buzzer and ten-volt transformer. I "worked" Bobby Hayth next door. We were each using old BC/SW receivers in wooden cabinets but we could have used any AM receiver on about any frequency at that distance. Good show! I gotta wonder how many others have done these kinds of stunts on their way into ham radio. Let's just say that the tuning wasn't at all critical. Something about decrement, heh heh. Welp the good news was that nobody needed cascaded INRAD filters to find us . . ? Dave K8MN w3rv |
Brian Kelly wrote:
Dave Heil wrote in message ... Brian Kelly wrote: That's right, "William", I've got a modified 75A-3 which is about 51 years old, a 51S-1 which was produced in the late seventies and a KWM-2A NICE collection! ...and I saw a fairly priced 75A-4 at the Washington, PA hamfest this morning. I resisted. Woo-woo! Nice piece. What are they going for these days? Well, there's the ebay price and there's the small hamfest price. This one was in pretty good shape and a firm 500 clams. Ya hafta resist or ya go nuts. I've sworn to myself not to clutter this place up with any boat anchors. I have not taken such a vow. None. Zero tolerance for boat anchors around here. But then I spot the R4B and the 75S-3B again and remember all the goodies I worked and all the fun I had with them and start to crumble. I need a Boat Anchors Anonymous chapter to help me deal with it but alas, no such thing . . . Go with the flow. It beats collecting Hummel figurines. But David they don't come with antennas and somebody who knows how to install antennas so that's the end of Silly Willy Beeper's Ten-tec dream machine. Ahhh! They have a "William" variant. The Orion is available with a built-in antenna tuner. I didn't get that model. Unless it can impedance-match his TV rabbit ears it wouldn't do much for him. Maybe when he wises up and moves . . Or does some planning so that he can put up a decent antenna with adequate safeguards so his kids can't touch it. "It's all about the chil'ren." . . . . I completely obliterated the AM b'cast band for blocks around, the phone rang off the hook and Mom not only terminated my Grand Experiment but almost terminated me too. Again. You actually disrupted the march around the breakfast table? Yeah, how stupid was that? At least you knew better than to disrupt a bunch of fathers listening to a football game or a boxing match. That could have gotten a whole lot more confrontational. Zed Zainoon W8ENJ, a Lebanese-American screwed up the TV reception at a Moundsville bar close to his home back in the early '50s with his Collins KW-1 AM KW. There was very nearly a lynching. My pre-ham radio days were from Hinton, West Virginia with an old doorbell buzzer and ten-volt transformer. I "worked" Bobby Hayth next door. We were each using old BC/SW receivers in wooden cabinets but we could have used any AM receiver on about any frequency at that distance. Good show! I gotta wonder how many others have done these kinds of stunts on their way into ham radio. I'll bet oodles of 'em. Let's just say that the tuning wasn't at all critical. Something about decrement, heh heh. Welp the good news was that nobody needed cascaded INRAD filters to find us . . ? Nope. I just adjusting the gap on the doorbell buzzer for maximum noise on the radio. Dave K8MN |
(Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com...
(William) wrote in message . com... (Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com... Kelly, I never have had an HF radio that came with an antenna. Perhaps your do. Yet I managed to build my own cubical quad on HF, dipoles, off-center fed dipoles, and EDZ's for 10 and 6, a hustler vertical for 40, etc, etc, etc. But in this particular location, I have very precise requirements and your one size fits all suggestion just wasn't what I wanted. You could have come out with this years ago but no, it just wouldn't have been "you". You weren't listening "years" ago. Thank you for your suggestion, but don't force it on me. Reminds me of the time you told me to bend over. Thanks, but No thanks. Some kind of weird elmering going on where you're from. Depends 100% on the elmeree. In your case . . . Again, no thanks. . . . George Barnum who lived a block and a half away to listen for me. His older brother had a radio and TV repair shop so George sorta understood what I was up to. He heard me *good* when I fired the thing up on sked. What was you callsign then? "CBK". Charles Brian Kelly? Or were you bootlegging as you've previously reported? Cite the post(s) please. So you can have your bootleg career expunged from the Google record? The problem was that I really screwed up by arranging the sked when every houswife in town was listening to the Don McNeil Breakfast Club Hour while they were doing their ironing. Actually, you're biggest screwup was operating w/o a license. I had no idea what an FCC was, kids do goofy stuff like that and I did more than my share. I suppose. But I did get on the air under my own steam with nothing more than guidance from an article in an old book and with no help from anybody. Not bad. A Riley of those days woulda enjoyed it then he woulda "explained a few things". But Mom got there before he did and she didn't "explain" NOTHIN' . . . Mom's are like that. Except the 90's mom's. They want to be your friend. |
Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Brian Kelly wrote: Dave Heil wrote in message ... Ahhh! They have a "William" variant. The Orion is available with a built-in antenna tuner. I didn't get that model. Unless it can impedance-match his TV rabbit ears it wouldn't do much for him. Maybe when he wises up and moves . . Or does some planning so that he can put up a decent antenna with adequate safeguards so his kids can't touch it. "It's all about the chil'ren." It is. Anyway, I had to install the antenna tuner on my TS-690S, the SSB and CW filters, and the voice module. |
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