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October 17th 04, 02:56 PM

In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Can a morse radiotelegraph circuit introduce error or is it supposedly
free from error of any kind?

Any mode can introduce errors in a message.

No, I haven't forgotten any of those things. My experience in such
things is much more recent than your own and it is therefore fresher in
my memory. All of those things introduce a time lag.

Tsk. Are you saying that TTY "introduces a time lag" now?

It does. And when things like prepunched tape are used, the time lag increases.

All the rest of those radio services that once used morse have
dropped it for communications purposes.

Not all. Almost all. And so what? They are not amateur radio.

Should hams stop using Morse Code?

Then there are a number of radio services which never bothered
with any morse code when they began.

So what?

But, you will then "argue" that "this is amateur radio" as if it was
a haven, shrine, or religious temple for morse code and that all
amateurs MUST test for it...won't you? :-)

You are confused between "test" and "use".

They surely do "affect" morse reception, but you were touting the
superiority of RTTY.

Incorrect. I was simply pointing out that morse code telegraphy
is the SLOWEST of all modes available to U.S. radio amateurs.

Morse Code is *not* the "SLOWEST of all modes available to U.S. radio
amateurs."

But, you cannot keep on the subject and must always attack
the persons of those who disagree with you. Tsk.

That's your game, Len.

Fact is,
on/off keying cuts it quite well in the communications world of now.

By whom?

Radio amateurs.

Face the facts. The rest of the radio world does NOT use morse
code for communications.

So? What is your point, Len?

Nobody but FM broadcaster uses the stereo multiplex system developed over a
half-century ago by Armstrong.

That hasn't changed just because you aren't proficient in its use.

TRY to stay focussed on the subject instead of (once more)
launching into personalities.

Gee, Len, you launch into other people's personalities all the time. ;-)

And the word is spelled "focused".

TRY to understand that the rest of the radio communications
world does NOT use morse code for communications.

Why is that important to amateur radio, Len? You repeat that statement over and
over like a mantra, but never explain its significance.

I don't think any other radio service still uses 5 level FSK Baudot for radio
communications either. Nor PSK-31.

Despite the statement above, your diatribe doesn't read like someone who
supports use of morse code.

Tsk. You ARE seeing things that aren't there...

Right - you don't support the use of Morse Code. You'd ban it from ham radio if
you could.

"Arrogant thundering" = any disagreement with your views.

You can't stay focussed on the subject. All you can do is act
the thunder mug on anything I post. :-)

You posts often look like, and contain, the contents of said mug.....;-)

That's a load of manure, Leonard. That isn't the "only" at all. It is
any radio amateur who uses morse and supports continuation of morse
testing. I, for one, couldn't care less if you decide to "emulate" me
or not.

Irrelevant.

NO one cares to "emulate" you. :-)

I care to emulate K8MN.

Let's see....

IIRC, he's retired, living in a beautiful area of his choice, with a wonderful
loving family, a great home and ham station, and the time and resources to
persue multiple interests.

I'll follow that lead any day.

What YOU write here isn't the case simply because YOU write it. Radio
amateurs worldwide are using morse code daily for real communications.
That you don't approve doesn't change that.

Again, irrelevant.

Totally relevant.

At issue is the morse code TEST, not whether or not "Dave" or his ilk
"use morse."

Note that USE has no real relation to the MORSE TEST.

Then why do you keep pointing out that other services don't use Morse?

You aren't even involved.

Tsk...with role models like the archtypical PCTA extra, who would
want to be "involved" in amateur radio? :-)

Then why are you here, Len?

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