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November 5th 04, 12:15 PM
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Subject: Designed And Built By PROFESSIONALS....
From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 11/5/2004 6:02 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Len Over 21) writes: Kiss my yes, Jimmie boy. What does that mean, Len? You've admitted that you haven't homebrewed any HF transceivers. You refuse or are unable to use the homepage facilities provided by AOL His last endeavour, copied to the list by myself, was an AOL "profile" in which he conceptualized himself as the little old man on a park bench, getting purse-whupped by Ruth Buzzy. He's never posted a single character-specific item on himself, family, career or accomplishments.. Guess it comes from being too incompetent to handle the technology. 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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#162
November 5th 04, 12:33 PM
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Subject: Designed And Built By PROFESSIONALS....
From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 11/5/2004 6:02 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Len Over 21) writes: For that matter, I've also seen part of the GC Electronics operations when their wire-stripper line was still a part of it...and known two who worked there (in 1956). [GC is now a merge with Walsco and most of their 'products' are produced by others on an OEM basis] So? Don't discourage him, Jim! He's moved from 1953 to 1956! I have a small collection of Greenlee punches which have been gathering rust and dust. About every 5 years or so I may take them out, oil them and rub them with some steel wool. Haven't used them for about 9 years or so. I'll give ya $5 each for them. Maybe if he knew what Greenlee punches were for they might not gather so much rust. I suppose next you will demand I show up at Dayton with the "citations" to prove I do things? Harrrr!!!! None of us have seen anything you've built at home. None of your articles in 'ham radio' were construction articles. You've lots of criticism for others' construction projects, but when asked to show what HF radio projects *you* have built at home, with your own resources and on your own time, the result is a big fat zero. Len, you're all talk and no action. All show and no go. All sizzle and no steak. There aren't any...Not HF...Not VHF...Not in ANY electronics discipline. Use all the old holes for the "new design?" Make everything "fit" those existing holes? bwahahahahahahahahaha! You really have no imagination when it comes to practical radio, Len. The key word there was, of course, "practical". That means BUYING chassis somewhere...or snaffling ("swipe") them. You mean steal? I don't do that. Heavens, no! That's right. Did you ever "snaffle" parts, Len? Must be a 1950's era term. Right now its wondering why I'm wasting all this time writing a reply to an unrepentant PCTA-er who is bound and determined to rationalize (one way or the other) that he is perfect ham in every way. I've never claimed to be perfect or god-like in anything, Len. I'm just a radio amateur who has homebrewed some amateur radio stations over the past 37 years. You haven't done any of that, yet you set yourself up in judgement. The only one I've ever seen in this forum even remotely suggest they are perfect was some potty-mouthed ex-radio technician who suggested, at one time, that he and any two of his engineering buddies were worth just about everyone else in the Amateur Radio service. Prove that. Show your work. Why? Lennie's always demanding engineer-level performance from evryone else, but is incapable of taking a simple Amateur Radio exam or getting a 2N2222 oscillating. U.S. Army radio station ADA sent 220 thousand TTY messages a month in 1955 in 24/7 operations, radio circuits all over the Pacific on HF. And there were how many personnel stationed there? Good thing you didn't ask him "...how many COMPETENT personnel", Jim...Wudda had to subtract at least one! Wouldn't matter anyway...Lennie was not an authorized operator then, either...Just a radio mechanic, according to the MOS's he's supplied. that item in it ('Stripes' was and is still available to the military public and to dependents). Each and every team supervisor at transmitters was immediately responsible to keep those radio transmitters operating when scheduled. It was their *job* and sole responsibility, right? For which they were trained, fed, housed, clothed and otherwise cared for, right? Who paid for all that radio equipment and supporting stuff, Len? Why JIM..! How DARE you ask! We all KNOW that Lennie waived all his paychecks, paid his own keep out of pocket, and designed, built and operated ALL his OWN gear! Jimmie, I can get even MORE specific about all of that old stuff because: (1). I was there; (2). I have documents to prove it; (3). I have personal photographs as well as Signal Corps photos (with mimeoed ID on the backs, as military standard then) from those days; (4). I have other documents obtained as gifts from a now-retired civilian engineer who was there at the time and stayed with the station complex after the USAF took over in 1963 (he now lives in California); (5). I have been in correspondence, both written and telephone, with another who was there at the same time as I, has been a amateur radio licensee for years; (6). The Pacific Stars & Stripes did check out some of my material and published it (article by staffer Rick Chernitzer who did the interview) on 10 November 2002 (it's in the middle of that Sunday edition, a "double truck" or two-page spread as the publishing folks sometimes call it). Nobody doubts that you were there, Len. Yet you get all defensive about it. Ironic...10 November...the MARINE CORPS Birthday...Huh, Lennie.... |
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#164
November 5th 04, 04:12 PM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (William) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... Or the guy who claims to have operated from T5 but cannot recall what bands, modes, radios, or antennas were used? He recalls, but the green envy and the accusations ****ed him off. But...but...but...Jimmie's "been there, done all that" and "knows exactly what it is like!" Hi hi. In the grand scheme of things, N2EY has been very few places and has done very few things of importance. He owes N2EY no explanation, and N2EY will receive none. Right on! ... He hopes N2EY will understand. Hah! Fat chance! No matter. Really. Jimmie thinks he is the "perfect ham" and can do NO wrong, always "corrects" others who "make all those mistakes." That's been the recurring underlayer in his postings here. N2EY has been wallowing in the slop and slurry of late. But he thinks he still smells sweetly. PCTAs never apologize...except in a blue moon (when their hair mysteriously grows out...) Blue Moon. A delicious micro-brew in the belgian-wheat tradition. |
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#165
November 5th 04, 08:27 PM
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In article , PAMNO
(N2EY) writes: We've already seen how you react to others who have served our country in both military and nonmilitary government service. Right...for making lots of brags and claims and implied "combat experience" as in "seven hostile actions." :-) Or those who were "in Vietnam" yet can't be specific about what they did or where. Or those who "served the country" by being a minor civilian sort for a defense contractor on a USN aircraft carrier. [I tend to dismiss the claims of "taking photographs for naval intelligence" as having any importance] "Dave" wants his State experiences enobled as wonderful radio acts for the nation or something. State Department just doesn't have the size or scope to compete with the U.S. military commo facilities. The DSN has taken over the day-to-day task for that and the U.S. Army Signal Corps has long served State for the vital sensitive communications means (which "Dave" will immediately argue since he is most sensitive to any sort of negativism to "Dave"). Ooooo...I've "insulted" a member of the USMC? Horrors! Yes, I was unaware that the USMC is hero of the U.S. military and the savior of all wars and is therefore ALLOWED (perhaps encouraged) to insult and demean all other U.S. military service branch veterans. See cute little Yiddish pejoratives such as "Putz" (which means 'penis head'). Tsk. I am "guilty" of an inter-service faux pas according to your veteranism (or veterinarianism or vegetarianism) as a military veteran yourself. I was unaware that standing retreat (a military ceremony at sundown) honoring 23 members of my military battalion was somehow "dishonoring them" (according to the medically-discharged USMC veteran). Mea culpa. That USMC "veteran" (who never claimed any USMC commo experience) thinks my MOS was as a "radio mechanic" despite my giving the official U.S. Army Military Occupation Specialty brief description. All that because the U.S. Army never used any morse code in long-distance 24/7 operation HF communications 51 years ago. Tsk. Well, you've had all that "experience" at Washington Army Radio because you read a rather dated (almost pre-WW2) article by a very olde-tymer hamme and thus you "were there" and "knew all about" ACAN (Army Command and Administrative Network) in which I took part. No sweaty dah. You've neglected to "correct" me on many other things that involved communications that I've experienced since 1956... except some brief mentions on SURPLUS equipment of WW2 era radio. You don't know SINCGARS or the IHFR families which are the mainstay of small-unit operations in today's military...IHFR involves HF spectrum communications and the present-day PRC-104 is part of that IHFR effort since 1986. Show us your heroism and wonderful deeds that makes YOU so superior you can denigrate those of us who DID serve in the military. Where have I "denigrated" anyone's military or other government service? Myself and Brian Burke by implication if not directly. Further, you've supported or condoned other PCTAs for personally insulting the both of us. All that has been in public view here. You've made considerable "fun" out of my having a professional career in radio-electronics and try to denigrate professionals in many areas besides radio. Yet you CLAIM to be a "pro" in your day job and have never been specific in what you are supposed to be doing "in electronics." Have you joined the IEEE yet? :-) I've brought out the FACT in the U.S. military communications (on HF) as of a half century ago NOT INVOLVING morse code for fixed- point to fixed-point "traffic." You kept diverting to USN shipboard operations trying somehow to "prove" that morse was the Big Thing in the military...which you didn't prove since TTY was the major traffic carrier (by far) for all military branches a half century ago. I can't possibly disturb your Belief System (a polite euphemism for league brainwashing) since you've had all that direct experience (through reading about it) in all those other radio services. No sir. :-) No, "N2EY," I'm just not going to accept your fantasyland notions of communications, not even in amateur radio. No matter what the subject matter in here, you WILL attempt to "correct" me for the simple reason of being an NCTA. You are SO touchy about being corrected yourself, even to the implication of negativisms about anything you do. Time is wasted trying to dicuss anything with you about anything. |
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#166
November 5th 04, 08:27 PM
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In article ,
(William) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (William) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... Or the guy who claims to have operated from T5 but cannot recall what bands, modes, radios, or antennas were used? He recalls, but the green envy and the accusations ****ed him off. But...but...but...Jimmie's "been there, done all that" and "knows exactly what it is like!" Hi hi. In the grand scheme of things, N2EY has been very few places and has done very few things of importance. Tsk. He has an AOL Homepage! :-) He owes N2EY no explanation, and N2EY will receive none. Right on! .. He hopes N2EY will understand. Hah! Fat chance! No matter. Really. True. Except "N2EY" is most disturbed about that. "N2EY" has SET the rules and what he say goes... Jimmie thinks he is the "perfect ham" and can do NO wrong, always "corrects" others who "make all those mistakes." That's been the recurring underlayer in his postings here. N2EY has been wallowing in the slop and slurry of late. But he thinks he still smells sweetly. Of course he does. He nose all. :-) PCTAs never apologize...except in a blue moon (when their hair mysteriously grows out...) Blue Moon. A delicious micro-brew in the belgian-wheat tradition. Haven't tried it. Not into any beers and don't bother to drink much. I follow the mathematician's rule: "Never drink and derive." :-) |
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#167
November 5th 04, 08:27 PM
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In article ,
(William) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (William) writes: It is a sad state of affairs the the organization that specifies a Morse Code Exam cannot define Morse Code. Usurpers of regulatory authority took it upon themselves up the reduced 5 WPM rate to a healthy 13-15 WPM rate in defiance of Part 97. Well, in all honesty, the FCC does have a definition of it, but not an exact one. They still reference an out-of-date (and no longer existing) CCITT document and do not specifically state a word rate. Considering all the technical things the FCC does, definitely, define and describe, it is a wonder that they are so lax on International Morse Code. It's as if they don't care about the code anymore. Tsk. The FCC should obey the dicta of the PCTA and remake morsemanship into the very finest accomplishment of all hamkind (that it once was). :-) We've both seen the numerous rationalizations of the "Farnsworth" spacing but nobody, and I mean NOBODY, has seen that specifically stated in any official version of Part 97, Title 47 C.F.R. (which is published every two years in October by the Government Printing Office and made available for free at the GPO website). It's as if they don't care about the code anymore. Morse code skill is the very finest of all possible skills of HF radio amateurs...according to the PCTA. Too bad the FCC can't see the Glory and Majesty of that very finest attribute of any amateur. Sic transit gloria mundi. ["so goes the glory of the world"] What we got is an "interpretation" by the FCC that Farnsworth spacing "is okay for VECs to use in testing." Not in any Part 97 and never even left the Commission (except to the supreme court of the league). Yep. Sumbuddy said it was OK. The ARRL posted a "notice" to that effect. It might even be buried somewhere on the FCC website...haven't searched for it. Have to search for it since it isn't given some extra-special link at the FCC at the Wireless Bureau or the sub-page devoted to Amateur Radio nor at the OET page. If the ARRL has posted the "notice" then that is "just as good" as being official. [the league can do no wrong...according to so many league Believers] Not to worry. With the re-election of the Administration there will be "four more years" of the same "attention" to amateur radio affairs as has been for the last 3 1/2 years, the same Commissioner in Chief, and full speed (with lots of champagne) to BPL. Wish I were on that gravy train. "Man with one-track mind often get train of thought derailed." Lots of "incentive" to attract more newcomers into hamme raddio. All that and those warm-hearted ghouls of the PCTA dissing and cussing all those not wanting to emulate or recreate olde-tyme radio. Tsk. All those "professionals" in law-making and fund-raising and membership-organization-running... :-) I guess we need our own Constitutional Amendment. Not to worry. All the licensured constitutionalists have taken care of that. Here's a synopsis of what they've come up with: 1. The ONLY way to show any interest in radio is to get a ham license. Any other endeavor, interest, curiosity is meaningless without that official authoritzation to operate (but only in the ham bands). Industry employment doesn't count, ever. 2. The ONLY way to show any capability of doing anything in radio is to home-build an HF transceiver (for the ham bands) and then display it on an AOL home page. All else is meaningless. 3. Newsgroup gabble about non-amateur-radio subjects is absolutely permitted, even encouraged...because it is done by authorized, licensured, official amateurs who are regulars in this newsgroup and self-designated as the saviors of the amateur radio future. 4. Anyone not a PCTA is forbidden to even mention radio policy subjects and such should always be cat-called, heckled, personally insulted for the slightest hint of negativism expressed against the god-like words of the PCTA and their beloved morse code ability. 5. No one, absolutely none, is permitted to say anything negative (however slight) against the claims, brags, or statements of any PCTA. All must shower such with accolades and respect worthy of heroes, leaders, and statesmen lest they be offended and run home from the schoolyard crying for their mamas. 6. There is NO other radio except amateur radio. The excellence of all radio (no exceptions) lies in HF bands operations as done by official, licensured amateurs working DX with CW. Implications that there are other radio services (including evil CB) is an aberration and is punishable by all manner of personal insult to anyone bringing such subjects to the newsgroup. 7. Anyone who has met the old Amateur Extra federal examination and passed is automatically elevated to expertise in: A. Entertainment business production and ethics. B. Architectural techniques, including engineering for same. C. National and International politics and policies. D. Aerospace business, industry, and technology. E. Rail and other vehicle transportation. F. Medical technology and application, regardless of licensure. G. Parenting and family values, plus pediatrics. H. Absolute insider knowledge on the decisions made by the Federal Communications Commission. I. Intimate knowledge and understanding of all amateur radio technology and how it came to be through history. J. The righteousness and correctness of the ARRL in all matters on amateur radio (for they are blessed as the saviors of U.S. amateur radio as sung in the hymnals at the Church of St. Hiram - the Divine). K. Anything else not covered in items A through J. 8. The Constitution of the United States of America has NO freedom of speech allowed to any No-Code-Test Advocate. 9. The Federal Communications Commission requires all staffers and commissioners to hold valid amateur radio licenses in order to regulate U.S. amateur radio. Such INVOLVEMENT is absolutely necessary and may even be a legal requirement under the law. 10. It is impossible to know ANYTHING in any subject without any class of amateur radio license, foreign or domestic. 11. In order to discuss getting into amateur radio one MUST already be licensed and have licensure IN amateur radio. 12. All those already licensed (and with licensure) in amateur radio know EXACTLY how every other radio amateur thinks, feels, experiences, believes, behaves...in perfect understanding. 13. Anyone getting into amateur radio MUST also achieve cognizance by ALL other radio amateurs for their dedication and resolve and devotion to the ONLY radio - amateur radio. Okay, that's just a baker's dozen items expressed or implied by those PCTA gurus of radio who reside in this royal mounted olympus newsgroup. There's a 14th item but that involves HUMOR and amateur radio is a most SERIOUS subject. The PCTA will lose their amateur jobs if they give in to humor. The P in PCTA also stands for PROFESSIONAL. The PCTA are never ever amateurish. |
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#168
November 6th 04, 05:11 AM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (William) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (William) writes: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... Subject: Designed And Built By PROFESSIONALS.... From: (William) Date: 10/31/2004 7:53 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: Dave Heil wrote in message ... Len Over 21 wrote: There's no reasoning with emotional belief systems...such as the PCTA's insistence that all who come after must jump through the same hoops they had to when younger. You have a point. There is no reasoning with emotional belief systems. Take a guy who believes that those tested in amateur radio are "jumping through hoops" or that the testing elements given today are the same as those in years past. How would you deal with such a guy? True enough. The Volunteer Examiners are giving Farnsworth exams rather than the FCC/Part 97 specified Morse Code exams. There is no such thing as a "Farnsworth exam". Volunteer examiners will tell you otherwise. "Steve" says he's a VE and he's OK. :-) And supposedly being a VE, you should know that. Whatever "Steve" does is OK. Under "Steve Rulez." The FCC is required to ensure that all exams and exam materials used in the conduct of exams on their behalf are appropriate. The FCC is required to ensure that what they enforce on Howard Stern is also enforced on Oprah. According to "Steve," the FCC pays a lot of attention to what a bunch of radio hobbyists do in the service of their country... In reality there is a difference story...but the fantasylanders don't want to tarnish the patina of their embellishments. I said before the restructuring and I'll say it again, "What I fear most about restructuring is a lack of enforcement, and what I fear most about maintaining the status quo is a lack of enforcement." Amateur Radio is now in it's 30th year of a lack of enforcement. Actually, longer. CB (on HF) became legal 46 years ago...NO code test then to get on HF, not even a single test to take. After a few years the "licensure" (token callsign on completion of application) was removed. To the best of my knowledge, Well there you go. You're basing your opinion upon your own limited knowledge. True enough. But, "Steve" has LICENSURE and is "fully authorized" to operate (radiating RF) within the boundaries of amateur radio regulations. That's enough to make him imagine anything that he wants is real, legal, and the Absolute Truth. [I still say it is all due to some post-traumatic stress problem, perhaps from those "seven hostile actions"] not a single exam in service today has been identified by the FCC as being inappropriate or not in confomance with FCC requirements, nor has the FCC ever directed the removal from service of any Morse Code exam as unacceptable. Nor would they. It is Morse Code that is specified in Part 97. You're going to have to try a little harder to unseat my informed opinion. The FCC still hasn't fully qualified its own definition of International Morse Code in Part 97, Title 47 C.F.R. Neither do they fully and unambiguously define telegraphy "word rate." However, "Steve" imagines he is still Boss NCO of the unit and gives Orders as if everyone else were the recruits in the "corps." As if... Steve, K4YZ Yeh, sure. Whatever. Opus' Mayor Bill (the Cat) has the last word..."Pbthththth..." :-) Steve has an incredibly uninformed knowledge bank wrt Volunteer Examining. Luckily for the ARS, he is busy being a volunteer for numerous other organizations. His "bank" has no interest. Come to think of it, I'm not much "interested" in that "knowledge." :-) Good thing because you won't find much. His bank not even FDIC insured. Bankrupt. Careful, "Steve" is going to "show you his 'citations' at Dayton!" [I think his singular citation is swingting...as the saying goes] Steve Puffy Flightsuit will not be able to verify the pedigree of his medal collection at Dayton or any other American city. I'm still curious as to "Steve's" citations for those 'seven hostile actions' he claimed he had. Mere claims. Then there is reality, which has passed him by. Or the acknowledgement that DoD really does run MARS and does so OUTSIDE the ham bands. Oh, my. Now there is a diffy cult one to validate. Hi! Or "Steve's" power (as a licensured health professional) to pick up a phone and have just anyone "picked up" by the authorities. Dat boy be well connected. He one powerful mamma jamma. Hoodo dat voodooo? That's just up in the top 3 of dozens of his claims. Ho hum. Claims. Mere claims. No validation. All that makes Steve Robeson a .... |
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#169
November 6th 04, 05:12 AM
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(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message ...
Subject: Designed And Built By PROFESSIONALS.... From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 11/5/2004 6:02 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Len Over 21) writes: I also know that typical bomb-run airspeed is way too high to let anyone ride on a "shape" (Special Weapons old term) and play rodeo cowboy with their cowboy hat...airspeed is just too high. Tell it to Kubrick. That's what I love about Sir Scumbag of Lanark...Always making snide insinuations about how no one else but he seems to have a sense of humor...Then clearly demonstrates he ahs neither humor OR imagination. Steve, K4YZ Dats one. |
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#170
November 6th 04, 05:13 AM
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(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message ...
Subject: Designed And Built By PROFESSIONALS.... From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 11/5/2004 6:02 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Len Over 21) writes: Kiss my yes, Jimmie boy. What does that mean, Len? You've admitted that you haven't homebrewed any HF transceivers. You refuse or are unable to use the homepage facilities provided by AOL His last endeavour, copied to the list by myself, was an AOL "profile" in which he conceptualized himself as the little old man on a park bench, getting purse-whupped by Ruth Buzzy. He's never posted a single character-specific item on himself, family, career or accomplishments.. Guess it comes from being too incompetent to handle the technology. 73 Steve, K4YZ Dats two! |
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